Controversial General Political Discussion

[NAMELESS]

The issue here lies within the impossibility to objectively define what constitutes murder, self defense, killing to survive

Courts and laws disagree with this take.

 

[Indigo]

If you don't want to have a debate in good faith,then fuck you. I'm not wasting my time with the likes of you and solis.

you get what you put out there

once you start attacking others, you get attacked back mate

maybe look back and realize that you get treated based on how you act

 

[NAMELESS]

Ok? Never said I created my own. I said have my own morals and dont need religion to be moral.

Morality is taught. Most young boys are taught that it wrong to hit girls under any circumstances. My morals say to smack the shit outta anyone who does me harm.




MAY CHAOS. TAKE. TH-*cough*

Bro,all morality boils down to religion form eons ago. People that came before us established the rules. You might not be a Christian,but if you are a western,there is a lot of Christinity ingrained in you.

 

[AL sama]

that is not a problem for a moral realist. The moral realist can say "kill is bad" is a proposition that is valid or true for x cases, but for anothers cases the proposition is false.

then its not objective

We kill to survive. People murder out of the evil in their hearts. Killing in self defense is necessary,but it still is a tragedy regardless if the one defending themselves is right. So yeah, as i see it, killing people is always a bad thing, even though it might be necessary. I say its a tragedy, because in an ideal world, people would never have to resort to this level of violence. I think most would agree with me on this.

got one word for you "war"

 

[NAMELESS]

you get what you put out there

once you start attacking others, you get attacked back mate

maybe look back and realize that you get treated based on how you act

You literally associated me with pedo shit(while there is no sexualization of minor in my avi) just because i called you out. Go to my ignore list sir.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

then its not objective

got one word for you "war"

it is objective because would exist a true or a false proposition to each case

 

[Indigo]

Go to my ignore list sir.

i take this as the achievement it is, not gonna lie

 

[NAMELESS]

then its not objective

got one word for you "war"

People are evil.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

in an ideal world, people would never have to resort to this level of violence.

BTW hella animals kill for pleasure eg kitties

Morality is taught

Depends.

Courts and laws disagree with this take.

No. Heavily depends on who's the judge.

Bro,all morality boils down to religion form eons ago.

Christianity ain't eons old.

if you are a western,there is a lot of Christinity ingrained in you.

Actually Christanity preserves many pagan traditions that were repurposed.

 

[NAMELESS]

maybe look back and realize that you get treated based on how you act

You should follow your own advice,hypocrite.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

People are evil.

No

 

[AL sama]

it is objective because would exist a true or a false proposition to each case

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

it is objective because would exist a true or a false proposition to each case

People can't even agree on whether it's a war or a special military operation so much objectivity man

 

[Indigo]

You should follow your own advice,hypocrite.

i'm not the one complaigning about what i got from this interaction

 

[NAMELESS]

I already have my own morals and code like millions of others. I don't need religion to be moral.

Answer in good faith. Do you think of yourself good or bad? Do you think there is potential for evil in yourself?

 

[Indigo]

People can't even agree on whether it's a war or a special military operation so much objectivity man

we can't even agree if objective morality exists or not lmao

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

@Foul Legacy wanted to be tagged

 

[Etzel Andergast]

you should introduce yourself to metaethics field
this is serious academic discussions

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

you should introduce yourself to metaethics field
this is serious academic discussions

Oh god

 

[Logiko]

we can't even agree if objective morality exists or not lmao

It does not. Its a social construction.

Morality is dependant of our sociological context and our experience. Therefore, the assertion "objective morality exist" is a nonsense.

End of debate.