Powers & Abilities Luffy is not a talented or skilled fighter

#1
"Luffy has a poor fruit but his skill makes it good". That's what people used to say. Now we know it's actually the complete opposite. Luffy had the greatest fruit in the verse this whole time, however his lack of skill is the reason it took so long for him to get strong. This arc proves it. Bonney who is only 12 years old (with regular paramecia) has learned gear 5 in a few minutes, while luffy took years, going through rubbish "gears" which are basically failure attempts of him trying to master the fruit. Even katakuri with his rice cake fruit was better than luffy, the tankiness from the mythical god fruit is what made luffy outlast him, just like with every opponent luffy has battled with inferior fruits

Luffy is not talented in haki either. Only reason luffy learned haki was because he had the pirate kings right hand to spoonfeed it to him, while the rest of the worst generation had to learn it themselves. "Acoc" he only knows because he learned flow from hyogoro. Without him, he wouldnt have that either. It took him near death to awaken the fruit, while kid and law already had it. No doubt if kid, law or bonney had luffys fruit and rayleigh training, they would have easily become pirate king already.
 
#5
Bonney didn’t “learn” G5 in the conventional sense. She had the benefit of seeing Nika up close and in the flesh and being able to transform into it thanks to her fruit.

It’s not like she needed any particularly crazy skill to be able to do it.

I would say Luffy definitely is talented, but he’s not necessarily that skilled. He’s a crazy fast learner and improves at an incredibly fast rate, but he isn’t very efficient at managing the tools that he actually has.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#12
"Luffy has a poor fruit but his skill makes it good". That's what people used to say. Now we know it's actually the complete opposite. Luffy had the greatest fruit in the verse this whole time, however his lack of skill is the reason it took so long for him to get strong. This arc proves it. Bonney who is only 12 years old (with regular paramecia) has learned gear 5 in a few minutes, while luffy took years, going through rubbish "gears" which are basically failure attempts of him trying to master the fruit. Even katakuri with his rice cake fruit was better than luffy, the tankiness from the mythical god fruit is what made luffy outlast him, just like with every opponent luffy has battled with inferior fruits

Luffy is not talented in haki either. Only reason luffy learned haki was because he had the pirate kings right hand to spoonfeed it to him, while the rest of the worst generation had to learn it themselves. "Acoc" he only knows because he learned flow from hyogoro. Without him, he wouldnt have that either. It took him near death to awaken the fruit, while kid and law already had it. No doubt if kid, law or bonney had luffys fruit and rayleigh training, they would have easily become pirate king already.
Wow...
You are actually spot on with this...
Except for the Bonney thing.
 
#17
"Luffy has a poor fruit but his skill makes it good". That's what people used to say. Now we know it's actually the complete opposite. Luffy had the greatest fruit in the verse this whole time, however his lack of skill is the reason it took so long for him to get strong. This arc proves it. Bonney who is only 12 years old (with regular paramecia) has learned gear 5 in a few minutes, while luffy took years, going through rubbish "gears" which are basically failure attempts of him trying to master the fruit. Even katakuri with his rice cake fruit was better than luffy, the tankiness from the mythical god fruit is what made luffy outlast him, just like with every opponent luffy has battled with inferior fruits

Luffy is not talented in haki either. Only reason luffy learned haki was because he had the pirate kings right hand to spoonfeed it to him, while the rest of the worst generation had to learn it themselves. "Acoc" he only knows because he learned flow from hyogoro. Without him, he wouldnt have that either. It took him near death to awaken the fruit, while kid and law already had it. No doubt if kid, law or bonney had luffys fruit and rayleigh training, they would have easily become pirate king already.
Luffy learned future sight in 12 hours by himself.

 
#19
Luffy is the opposite. He’s talented to the point that he’s effectively a Mary Sue.

This was especially apparent to me with Luffy vs Kaido.
> Luffy goes into the fight with ACoA, FS, and no awakening
> Luffy gets KO’d
> Luffy returns with entry level ACoC
> Luffy gets KO’d again
> Luffy returns with sky splitter ACoC
> Luffy gets KO’d again
> Luffy returns with G5 and wins

It basically made it to where it was impossible for Luffy to legitimately lose and any attempt to defeat him just made him stronger.

If he didn’t have plot armor Luffy would have been treated by Kaido the same way Kid and Law were when they 1v1ed a yonko.
 
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