Powers & Abilities Luffy is not a talented or skilled fighter

#48
So Luffy who is 19 and has:
  • Awakened a fruit that no one could awaken in 800 years
  • Learned ACoC just by seeing it
  • Learned ACoO just by seeing it
  • Learned ACoA in a couple weeks when the vast majority of the verse doesn’t have it
Doesn’t have skill? Ok buddy.
None of this refutes OPs point.
Luffy has the strongest fruit in the verse.
Its not the fruit that makes the user, but the user that makes the fruit is thoroughly debunked now.
 
#49
None of this refutes OPs point.
Luffy has the strongest fruit in the verse.
Its not the fruit that makes the user, but the user that makes the fruit is thoroughly debunked now.
That’s cap, Luffy made the fruit as others have had it and haven’t been capable of using its full potential. The Gorosei said it.

Haki is a skill and Luffy has top tier haki in every category even without his fruit. If that doesn’t make him skilled what does?
 
#50
That’s cap, Luffy made the fruit as others have had it and haven’t been capable of using its full potential. The Gorosei said it.
They only say about awakening and no users before was ever mentioned.

The fact fruit runsaway from everyone and luffy timeline is somewhat pre decided. Everything coming into place.


Haki is a skill and Luffy has top tier haki in every category even without his fruit. If that doesn’t make him skilled what does?
He only have more applications , not absolute dominance over one application or other
 
#51
They only say about awakening and no users before was ever mentioned.

The fact fruit runsaway from everyone and luffy timeline is somewhat pre decided. Everything coming into place.



He only have more applications , not absolute dominance over one application or other
He has the most advanced form of every haki that we’ve seen. What are you talking about?

If Luffy awakened a fruit that no one else has been able to what does that tell you?
 
#52
That’s cap, Luffy made the fruit as others have had it and haven’t been capable of using its full potential. The Gorosei said it.

Haki is a skill and Luffy has top tier haki in every category even without his fruit. If that doesn’t make him skilled what does?
Luffy has the strongest fruit EVER.
Manga facts.
Thats is point 1.

Luffy learned haki from a haki master.
He got spoon fed while his rivals had to learn it the hard way.
Manga facts.
Thats point 2.

You have not and can not refute either.
 
#53
He has the most advanced form of every haki that we’ve seen. What are you talking about?
Nearly every top tier got atleast two forms of Advanced haki my blud.
And FS is not that of a mighty stuff either.
Having more Advanced stuff doesn't mean You're better. In terms on CoO and Speed , Sanji is far better even without any advanced form.


If Luffy awakened a fruit that no one else has been able to what does that tell you?
Why did roger say they were too early?
It was all predestined for the fruit to awaken now.
 
#54
Luffy has the strongest fruit EVER.
Manga facts.
Thats is point 1.

Luffy learned haki from a haki master.
He got spoon fed while his rivals had to learn it the hard way.
Manga facts.
Thats point 2.

You have not and can not refute either.
We actually don’t know how Law or Kidd learned. Lol so Zoro isn’t skilled in swordsmanship or haki because he learned from two sword masters and a haki master. Lol and you can’t refute it either.
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Nearly every top tier got atleast two forms of Advanced haki my blud.
And FS is not that of a mighty stuff either.
Having more Advanced stuff doesn't mean You're better. In terms on CoO and Speed , Sanji is far better even without any advanced form.



Why did roger say they were too early?
It was all predestined for the fruit to awaken now.
Luffy has 3 ACoO is one of the best. Sanji’s haki only works with women his shit is trash otherwise. Luffy has the best haki in the crew in every category. Destined or not Luffy awakened the fruit and other users didn’t that’s the end of it.
 
#56
Luffy has 3 ACoO is one of the best. Sanji’s haki only works with women his shit is trash otherwise. Luffy has the best haki in the crew in every category. Destined or not Luffy awakened the fruit and other users didn’t that’s the end of it.
Stop lying to yourself lmao.
Sanji alteady countered fs with base CoO.
Zoro was damaging Kaidou with base CoA more than luffy ID.
Base CoC is pratically useless against strong opponent.
Coming to AdCoC , Zori is stronger.

Keep dreaming lol.

The fact he has the strongest Fruit is the only reason he is that strong.
 
#58
Stop lying to yourself lmao.
Sanji alteady countered fs with base CoO.
Zoro was damaging Kaidou with base CoA more than luffy ID.
Base CoC is pratically useless against strong opponent.
Coming to AdCoC , Zori is stronger.

Keep dreaming lol.

The fact he has the strongest Fruit is the only reason he is that strong.
Luffy countered it constantly without ACoC lol your point? Katakuri was literally irritated that he couldn’t hit Luffy. It took his siblings interference for him to land a fatal blow.

Luffy did more damage to Kaido in base. Last time I checked Zoro wasn’t splitting the heavens. Don’t mention commanders in Yonko level discussions.
 
#59
Luffy countered it constantly without ACoC lol your point? Katakuri was literally irritated that he couldn’t hit Luffy. It took his siblings interference for him to land a fatal blow.
Why did he have to have learn ACoO then.
:risitameh::risitameh:
Bro is contradicting himself lmao.


Luffy did more damage to Kaido in base. Last time I checked Zoro wasn’t splitting the heavens. Don’t mention commanders in Yonko level discussions
Yea sure lmao.
Luffy without AdCoC would be bonked to death lmao.
Post 1026 goofy isn't here in the equation. Lmao.
No advanced form zori surpassed pre 1026 goofy that's the problem here lmao.
Zori with AdCoC and KoH surpassed G5 long back lol.
Zori isn't your regular level commanders lol.
Look at mihawk , Rayleigh, Benn.
How about you wanking kata to sky lmao , bro is the weakest YC1.
Throw goofy dick out of your mouth to understand without G5 goofy isn't top tier either.
Kizaru negged G4 with Nameless kickless lmao. Pushed g5 to limits.
With that pathetic endurance don't call goofy top tier lmao. Name me one yonkou who would have to eat 4 times and sleep in front of enemy lmao.
 
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