Powers & Abilities Luffy is not a talented or skilled fighter
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Yes because he had a Haki teacher for like 2 of then and 3rd is innate ability, no one can teach that.
Zori was using Ryou back then in Alabasta my blud.
Luffy is a decent fighter not a skilled fighter.
Also youngest to have the best haki teacher in the world?
Hyo couldn't teach the most advanced form of CoA he himself stated it's beyond what he can do
Luffy learnt/mastered all advanced hakis by himself
He only had a teacher for Haki basics and even then Rayleigh acknowledged Luffy learnt them faster than what he thought
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He literally gave him the "How-To" manual lmao.
But someone was there to teach him. Step by step , Rayleigh literally demonstrated it to him.
Yea with a guide manual from probably one of the best haki users in the history lmao.
Exactly and none of the supernova got that shit.
I have already said above, If zori teaches someone three sword skill now , He might have whole fuckin arsenal and might even unlock Secret technique later on himself.
But that doesn't make him skillful , Zoro is the one who's skillful , created everything from scratch and years of training.
You say luffy is skillful because of arnament haki. User FS once in wano , 0 times in Egghead.
Used AdCoA 0 zero times in egghead.
Used AdCoC one or two times.
He himself can't stay focussed enough to use FS everytime. Katakuri is fodder , Against kaidou we literally saw how chaotic fight can get.
Katakuri is skillful who honed the skills over the years with integration to df.
You can call Luffy skillfull because of G4. The integration of haki and DF something very new and he developed it himself. And has mastery with integration of both haki and df like no other. That's skill.
Bar AdCoC , Other advanced technique are nearly fodder category. Any with enough training can do it.
But someone was there to teach him. Step by step , Rayleigh literally demonstrated it to him.
Yea with a guide manual from probably one of the best haki users in the history lmao.
Exactly and none of the supernova got that shit.
I have already said above, If zori teaches someone three sword skill now , He might have whole fuckin arsenal and might even unlock Secret technique later on himself.
But that doesn't make him skillful , Zoro is the one who's skillful , created everything from scratch and years of training.
You say luffy is skillful because of arnament haki. User FS once in wano , 0 times in Egghead.
Used AdCoA 0 zero times in egghead.
Used AdCoC one or two times.
He himself can't stay focussed enough to use FS everytime. Katakuri is fodder , Against kaidou we literally saw how chaotic fight can get.
Katakuri is skillful who honed the skills over the years with integration to df.
You can call Luffy skillfull because of G4. The integration of haki and DF something very new and he developed it himself. And has mastery with integration of both haki and df like no other. That's skill.
Bar AdCoC , Other advanced technique are nearly fodder category. Any with enough training can do it.
Nope. He only told him about people being able to see in the future nothing more. It didn't told him how, normalement trained Luffy to do it.
He even said "I trained you to the basics of Haki"
Show us a panel of rayleigh training Luffy to FS
How can hyo teach Luffy something he can't do himself ? That's crazy
Rayleigh showed AdCoA to everyone not only Luffy, Zoro Kid Law Sanji they were all present yet none of them Can use Internal destruction
It just shows Luffy is Better skilled than those guys lol
Stop headcannons and bring your proofs of Rayleigh teaching Luffy any sort of advanced hakis
Zolo got a teacher too yet no fs, no Internal destruction
And his teacher was Mihawk the Guy you hypes to be stronger than Ray and Roger
Being skillful =/ to learn alone
How does it matters Luffy being nerfed by Oda doesn't mean Luffy isn't skillful
You don't even know what you are talking about
Having skills means you are performant in several fields not that you spam a move
He never Said that. Bring panels instead of headcannons
Being creative=/ skillful
According to you only Luffy and Katakuri can be called skillful
Others characters just spamm Haki which is something already known for centuries
That's why there is only a few characters with all types of haki maxed out even among top tiers lol
He even said "I trained you to the basics of Haki"
Show us a panel of rayleigh training Luffy to FS
How can hyo teach Luffy something he can't do himself ? That's crazy
Rayleigh showed AdCoA to everyone not only Luffy, Zoro Kid Law Sanji they were all present yet none of them Can use Internal destruction
It just shows Luffy is Better skilled than those guys lol
Stop headcannons and bring your proofs of Rayleigh teaching Luffy any sort of advanced hakis
Zolo got a teacher too yet no fs, no Internal destruction
And his teacher was Mihawk the Guy you hypes to be stronger than Ray and Roger
Being skillful =/ to learn alone
How does it matters Luffy being nerfed by Oda doesn't mean Luffy isn't skillful
You don't even know what you are talking about
Having skills means you are performant in several fields not that you spam a move
He never Said that. Bring panels instead of headcannons
Being creative=/ skillful
According to you only Luffy and Katakuri can be called skillful
Others characters just spamm Haki which is something already known for centuries
That's why there is only a few characters with all types of haki maxed out even among top tiers lol
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I said a "How to" manual lmao.
Lol of them cares about internal destruction lmao.
Zoro does more damsge with judt ryou , Law has innate internal destruction with ope ope , kidd isn't the type to use ID.
Go clown yourself lmao. None of them needed it and has alresdy stronger alternative.
He literally showed him barrier genius.
Gave him insight into FS.
Yea sure copying is being skillfull now lmao.
You can spam something only when you are skillful lol.
You give me panels of it lmao.
He only used FS once in Wano. Zero times in efghead lol.
They didn't have any headsup lmao.
Zori used ryou back in alabasta , and learnt AdCoC on his own and adapted to it.
Nobody cares lol.
Kaidou didn't bother to use adcoo or adcoa 99% of the time.
He only spammed AdCoC lol.
And the fact he has all of them yet he's the weakest top tier and only top tier in g5 lmao.
Lol of them cares about internal destruction lmao.
Zoro does more damsge with judt ryou , Law has innate internal destruction with ope ope , kidd isn't the type to use ID.
Go clown yourself lmao. None of them needed it and has alresdy stronger alternative.
He literally showed him barrier genius.
Gave him insight into FS.
Yea sure copying is being skillfull now lmao.
You can spam something only when you are skillful lol.
You give me panels of it lmao.
He only used FS once in Wano. Zero times in efghead lol.
They didn't have any headsup lmao.
Zori used ryou back in alabasta , and learnt AdCoC on his own and adapted to it.
Nobody cares lol.
Kaidou didn't bother to use adcoo or adcoa 99% of the time.
He only spammed AdCoC lol.
And the fact he has all of them yet he's the weakest top tier and only top tier in g5 lmao.
And I asked you where did Rayleigh taught Luffy how to use any sort of advanced hakis ?
Can you bring panels instead of headcannons ?
Their reactions when Luffy used Internal destruction
You use too much headcannons lol
Truth is that Luffy is more skilled
He showed barrier to everyone in Sabaody none of them went to Internal destruction
It's not because you see something that you Can reproduce it immediately
As for FS he didn't gave Luffy any insight. Their discussion about FS was about people who can see in the future not how to do it
All my claims are backed UP by the manga
Please bring panels of Luffy saying he isn't skillful with FS
Don't dodge liar
Luffy used FS several Times in Wano. You should read the manga without agenda glasses
Zoro learnt it because of Koshirou his Old master meaning according to you he isn't skillfull
As for AdCoC Enma was the catalyst for him to use it (he for granted AdCoC by a magical sword)
Copium is strong
If Luffy isn't Top tier we can't put admirals, Old legends let alone Zoro Kid and Law AT top tier
Cope
Can you bring panels instead of headcannons ?
You use too much headcannons lol
Truth is that Luffy is more skilled
He showed barrier to everyone in Sabaody none of them went to Internal destruction
It's not because you see something that you Can reproduce it immediately
As for FS he didn't gave Luffy any insight. Their discussion about FS was about people who can see in the future not how to do it
All my claims are backed UP by the manga
Please bring panels of Luffy saying he isn't skillful with FS
Don't dodge liar
Luffy used FS several Times in Wano. You should read the manga without agenda glasses
Zoro learnt it because of Koshirou his Old master meaning according to you he isn't skillfull
As for AdCoC Enma was the catalyst for him to use it (he for granted AdCoC by a magical sword)
Copium is strong
If Luffy isn't Top tier we can't put admirals, Old legends let alone Zoro Kid and Law AT top tier
Cope
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Yea sure give me a panel mihawk teaching anything more than hardening to zori I'll wait.
Do you not understand a "how-to" manual bitch?
Bruh that was something new lmao that's it.
Nobody yearned to have it , all of them one or the other surpassed ID either way on rooftop without training. That's skills lmao.
Rayleigh literally tells him years of training ain't gonna help him , haki blooms will.
Already knowing what to achieve is easier to achieve than not knowing what to achieve.
He did nothing but focus lmao and haki blooms between battle.
Rest like sanji never bothered because he got strong base CoO and speed. Lmao.
Sure do provide me with panel lmao I'll wait.
G4 Snakesman vs Kaidoy is the one time he uses it against kaidou lol. And gets ckowned there as well.
Zori master explained him what a dangerous swordsman is not what haki is lmao. When zori tapped into haki in alabasta , he was later on training to get and know that feeling of using haki again. That was something he didn't learn ever knew from koushiro lmao.
The biggest copium here it is , enma gave zori AdCoC.
Already said he ain't a top tier without G5.
G4+AdCoC was clowned by both Kaidou and Kizaru.
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Do you not understand a "how-to" manual bitch?
Bruh that was something new lmao that's it.
Nobody yearned to have it , all of them one or the other surpassed ID either way on rooftop without training. That's skills lmao.
Rayleigh literally tells him years of training ain't gonna help him , haki blooms will.
Already knowing what to achieve is easier to achieve than not knowing what to achieve.
He did nothing but focus lmao and haki blooms between battle.
Rest like sanji never bothered because he got strong base CoO and speed. Lmao.
Sure do provide me with panel lmao I'll wait.
G4 Snakesman vs Kaidoy is the one time he uses it against kaidou lol. And gets ckowned there as well.
Zori master explained him what a dangerous swordsman is not what haki is lmao. When zori tapped into haki in alabasta , he was later on training to get and know that feeling of using haki again. That was something he didn't learn ever knew from koushiro lmao.
The biggest copium here it is , enma gave zori AdCoC.
Already said he ain't a top tier without G5.
G4+AdCoC was clowned by both Kaidou and Kizaru.
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Show me a panel Rayleigh teaching anything other than basic haki to luffy.
Dont you think its odd for zoro not to learn how to manual from the greatest Hakiman even stronger than rayleigh and the Clairvoyant himself, for whom shanks even had to develop foresight killer. Its pretty strange zoro was such poor student.
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Dont you think its odd for zoro not to learn how to manual from the greatest Hakiman even stronger than rayleigh and the Clairvoyant himself, for whom shanks even had to develop foresight killer. Its pretty strange zoro was such poor student.
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Because he simply cannot , how does one teach someone Advanced form when one doesn't even understand Basic forms.
Rayleigh already gave him , two Advanced Form ideas. AdCoA and AdCoO. While telling him two years of training will amount to nothing what he will get during Battles haki blooms.
Because Mihawk really didn't teach anything beside hardening.
Zori was already using haki before Mihawk taught him , Zori was onli taught hardening so that his blade doesn't have damages.
Whatever zori acquired was he acquited it himself , From all forms of haki forms to his technique.
Zori didn't even he had CoC , Bro just let himself out and mastered it right away.
No training and no guidence , Simple haki bloom and he managed it right away.
Rayleigh already gave him , two Advanced Form ideas. AdCoA and AdCoO. While telling him two years of training will amount to nothing what he will get during Battles haki blooms.
Because Mihawk really didn't teach anything beside hardening.
Zori was already using haki before Mihawk taught him , Zori was onli taught hardening so that his blade doesn't have damages.
Whatever zori acquired was he acquited it himself , From all forms of haki forms to his technique.
Zori didn't even he had CoC , Bro just let himself out and mastered it right away.
No training and no guidence , Simple haki bloom and he managed it right away.
That further proves luffy inert talent of learning advanced haki just by theory alone, while Kid, and law could not reciprocrate even after seeing someone how to use it for several times in wano.
Of course either Mihawk is a fraud, doesnt have COC, foresight or zori is just a poor student.
I dont want to undermine zoro's achievement here but its funny that only after getting ENMA - the haki bloomer sword, zoro was able to channel his COC. Its like how that old namekian was able to take out gohans inner talent by magic, ENMA did the same for zoro.
Of course even without training sanji is comparable to zoro while luffy is above zoro. Imagine luffy and sanji train whole life just like zoro.
Zoro is basically a guy getting success through hard work rather than inner talent alone.
Of course either Mihawk is a fraud, doesnt have COC, foresight or zori is just a poor student.
I dont want to undermine zoro's achievement here but its funny that only after getting ENMA - the haki bloomer sword, zoro was able to channel his COC. Its like how that old namekian was able to take out gohans inner talent by magic, ENMA did the same for zoro.
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Of course even without training sanji is comparable to zoro while luffy is above zoro. Imagine luffy and sanji train whole life just like zoro.
Zoro is basically a guy getting success through hard work rather than inner talent alone.
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Seeing someone do it and getting a fuckin "How-to" manual are two different things.
Not only that nobody even wanted adcoa except luffy.
Bro using headcanon to fight now.
Lmao this is so easy to debunk. You're are desperate blud.
- No opponent were strong enough for zori to unlock AdCoC lmao.
- Oden can Enma for years yet no adcoc.
- Zori unlocked AdCoC only when he unleashed all the haki he had , which he was restricting before for more endurance lmao.
Spoken like a true brain dead goofy fan.
Zori negs goofy without fruit.
Not only that nobody even wanted adcoa except luffy.
Bro using headcanon to fight now.
I dont want to undermine zoro's achievement here but its funny that only after getting ENMA - the haki bloomer sword, zoro was able to channel his COC. Its like how that old namekian was able to take out gohans inner talent by magic, ENMA did the same for zoro.
- No opponent were strong enough for zori to unlock AdCoC lmao.
- Oden can Enma for years yet no adcoc.
- Zori unlocked AdCoC only when he unleashed all the haki he had , which he was restricting before for more endurance lmao.
Spoken like a true brain dead goofy fan.
Zori negs goofy without fruit.
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Bro already has AdCoA , AdCoC and most probably AdCoO as well lmao.
Rayeligj is the most well rounded haki man we have seen in the series.
I'm not using headcanon lol. I'm using manga panels only.
Mihawk aside from training zori for hardening. We have nothing at all.
So whatever you said is pure bullshit.
Rayeligj is the most well rounded haki man we have seen in the series.
I'm not using headcanon lol. I'm using manga panels only.
Mihawk aside from training zori for hardening. We have nothing at all.
So whatever you said is pure bullshit.