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You forget Zoro has his no sword style lol?
And no sword style cuts no one but only produces impact.


But we've literally seen Smoker adding Haki to smoke which isn't even flowing haki which imbues your haki to other objects
It wasn't haki to smoke.
It was his hands.

Does he need haki trails? We've seen the no touch stuff, then the haki statement. It's clear both used ACoC
No touch because Luffy used barrier as well.
Haki statement of editor? I trust that mf.
It absolutely not clear if kaidou used it or not.
But goofy used
Gear 5 + AdCoC + AdCoA
 
And no sword style cuts no one but only produces impact.
I must have missed the rule when it was stated that haki can only be imbued to attacks which have the nature to cut things. Afaik, swordsmen can choose to cut or not to cut.

Also, Coby used a large haki shockwave to destroy Pizzalo's island sized arm, so there's another evidence. 😆

It wasn't haki to smoke.
???
Smoker legit transformed his entire arm to smoke lol

No touch because Luffy used barrier as well.
Then the barrier would just directly hit the head.
Both made no contact. That's the point.

That was not just a statement of the editor. It was also mentioned in that magazine which confirmed Luffy's punch sent shockwaves which travelled a 1000 miles.
 
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I must have missed the rule when it was stated that haki can only be imbued to attacks which have the nature to cut things. Afaik, swordsmen can choose to cut or not to cut.
Show me no sword style cutting then. I'll wait.
Only non canon scene we have of it and zori cut no one there.


Also, Coby used a large haki shockwave to destroy Pizzalo's island sized arm, so there's another evidence. 😆
Jesus Christ that's simply haki. No shockwave.
AdCoA , Emission. What ryou is.


???
Smoker legit transformed his entire arm to smoke lol
And his hands were still not changed into smoke.
It was not Smoke + Haki but rather Hand + Haki.



Then the barrier would just directly hit the head.
Both made no contact. That's the point

Tell me does luffy touch the stone here?

That was not just a statement of the editor. It was also mentioned in that magazine which confirmed Luffy's punch sent shockwaves which travelled a 1000 miles.
And luffy used Haki How many times do I need to tell you that.
But Kaidou final attack had no sign of being Hakified.
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thats why i posted a panel of him punching
Why couldn't he punch my blud.
Even Bigmam and Kidd can punch. Yet they most the time refuse to use haki.
 
I believe Dragon, Akainu and Blackbeard have 90% chance of getting AdCoC
Mihawk has anywhere between 40-50% of having it.
OG joyboy and Imu are guaranteed to have it as well
 
Show me no sword style cutting then. I'll wait.
I'm not following you.
It's you who claimed haki can only be used to slashes. Burden of proof lies on you.

Jesus Christ that's simply haki. No shockwave.
Wdym "that's simply haki"?
We've seen Garp throwing huge shockwaves which are imbued with barrier haki. From what we've seen in Wano, the ryuo users are emitting a barrier-like force which can be used for defence or offensively. Rayleigh and Luffy used it a few times and they merely unleashed their haki on foreign objects and destroyed them from the inside.

Now look at that:



Coby was basically copying Garp's shockwave techniques when he destroyed the entire arm:



There is clearly a difference in displayment when it comes to Luffy using ACoA and both Garp and Coby throwing complete shockwaves.

Haki is a spiritual force and it can be technically imbued into everything. There's no limit.
And ACoC is just Ryuo whose source isn't CoA but CoC.

And his hands were still not changed into smoke.
Bruh, you already drop the excuses at the speed of light lol.
Bro is turning his entire arm but his fist into smoke...

I guess Kuzan just randomly switched his fist back before turning it to ice when he used hardening:


Tell me does luffy touch the stone here?
Then the barrier would just directly hit the head.
You need to pay more attention to what I said.

If both Kaido and Luffy do the "no-touch" haki thing, it means both use an exterior force which collided upon contact and sent out a massive shockwave.
 
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I'm not following you.
It's you who claimed haki can only be used to slashes. Burden of proof lies on you.



Wdym "that's simply haki"?
We've seen Garp throwing huge shockwaves which are imbued with barrier haki. From what we've seen in Wano, the ryuo users are emitting a barrier-like force which can be used for defence or offensively. Rayleigh and Luffy used it a few times and they merely unleashed their haki on foreign objects and destroyed them from the inside.

Now look at that:



Coby was basically copying Garp's shockwave techniques when he destroyed the entire arm:



There is clearly a difference in displayment when it comes to Luffy using ACoA and both Garp and Coby throwing complete shockwaves.

Haki is a spiritual force and it can be technically imbued into everything. There's no limit.
And ACoC is just Ryuo whose source isn't CoA but CoC.



Bruh, you already drop the excuses at the speed of light lol.
Bro is turning his entire arm but his fist into smoke...

I guess Kuzan just randomly switched his fist back before turning it to ice when he used hardening:





You need to pay more attention to what I said.

If both Kaido and Luffy do the "no-touch" haki thing, it means both use an exterior force which collided upon contact and sent out a massive shockwave.

I'll answer you one by one. As far as I understood your arguments.
- First , Zoro Air slashes being Hakified
- Second , Smoker Condition
- Third , Aokiji and Garp
- Fouth , Garp and Coby.

First,
I researched and found a few things out.
- First , we have no evidence of Zori ever making his Air Slashes Hakified , None of thr attacks were ever Hakified like it should hurt a logia type/Paramacia Type.
- 1080 Pound was never Hakified , Neither are any of Zori thrown attacks. Those are pure sword skills
- Now I know Three examples would come
  • ZORI using Hiryu Kaen
  • Zori hurting monet
  • KoH : Rengoku Onigiri.
These are the only time zori has ever used Thrown haki attacks and hear me out. I'm not contradicting myself.
But these are two different things , Air slashes / Hakified attacks.
- More I dwelled into it more I understood it.
hakified attacks are Ryou.
- Remember zori Cutting The cliff off with using enma for the first time?
hakified thrown attacks are " Ryou ". It comes out of User Body and they channel it throw Swords , hence the take a Slash form.
- Hiryu Kaen , Kamasuri , Yakidori , KoH:Onigiri are a few example of it.
- Hiryu Kaen and Onigiri both are not meant to be ranged attacks or thrown attacks , Zoro personally damage them.
but with Enma Amp , Zori was able to throw Hiryu Kaen and it was all Hakified , Zori Ryou.
With KoH : Onigiri - Which is again supposed to be Speed blitz kind of attack where zori has to go themselves and attack. But KoH : Onigiri which is pure Ryou and AdCoC , it became Ranged/Thrown attacks. Zori is sending Haki here to attack not "Coating" "air slashes" with haki.
- Same with Monet , Zori used a no named attack at first. And second , Zori sent Ryou of small amount and cut her. It was Regular Air Slash.

- So I was wrong with , Zori coating his thrown attacks with Haki , Even Zoro can't Coat Air Slashes with Haki. Sending Air Slashes and Ryou are two Different things.

- Meanwhile , If zoro Blades are hakified and makes such attack like 1080 Pound phoenix , this might he Hakified given what zori used air slash or Ryou. If he sent Ryou then it's Hakified. If only hardening is their , Only advantage zori will get is stronger form of that air slash as Hardening increases Power of the Sword to some extent.
So don't confuse between Pure Ryou vs Wind Slashes attack. And yes even Zori can't make Air Slashes with haki , It gets completely changed with Ryou once zori throws it.

And no sword style , these are only two I can find and I was correct.
- Without Sword zoro is not creating any of cuts.
Second , and Third , I'll answer them both Simultaneously.
Smoker Condition.
Gaseous, Plasma , Energy form of Logia cannot be coated in Haki like , Semi-Liquid / Solid types of Logia.

Armanent haki is like a shield to the body , Can be used defensively or Offensively.
It can be either your body or Or your weapon.
But you need something " Solid to Coat in Haki with ".
Aokiji is Solid , Ice is solid. It can be coated in Haki but Plasma Form like Kizaru , can never make Light Haki punches. Because You cannot coat Something in haki Which isn't Solid or Atleast Semi Solid like Mochi or Magma.

smoker Situation ,
As you can see above.
If Smoker Hakified Hands were smoke , It wouldn't be in one place to begin with , Logia type with properties of Gas or Plasma , don't have a Physical body like Solid/Liquid type of Logia types.
Smoker hand were Haki is visible is His partial transformation where rest of the body is tangible and Smoke where as , Hands were Haki is used Is not Tangible or Smoke , If some one hit them , not with a stronger haki , let'ssay Fishmen Island example where Hordy without Haki penetrated Luffy arnament haki.
if he bites Hakified hands of Smoker. Smoker will get hurt when Hordy isn't even Using haki.
understand now?
nobody is Coating Gaseous or Plasma into Haki.
only solid and semi solids are the only thing which has been coated in Haki.
Fourth , Garp and Coby
I again don't understand your argument of Coating Haki with Shockwaves.

Like Zori case I explained above. It's ryou , which on Impact makes shockwaves , it isn't shockwave which is coated in haki.
Like
Zoro flying slashes are not Coated in haki. It's Ryoh only which on Impact cuts the user , Zori completely Replaced the Air Slashes with Ryou in all the examples I have shared.

garp and Coby sends out a Lot of Ryou. Creating Shockwave is a afteramth.
shockwaves is Sound wave which is created when something like Explosion Happens. It's an affter effect.
nobody is Coating Air or shockwaves with Haki.
Why are even Discussing this to begin with.
My whole argument was How is Kaidou Blazing Dragon is Haki?
It's completely DF focussed attack.
Kaidou Blazing Bagua form , first isn't a Physical Form. Kaidou takes in all the Flame cloud and Coat himself with Flame clouds.
And increase the temperature. Which is why Momo had to Take on charge with Moving Onighishima after that.

neither Flame Cloud or Fire , is Solid or even Semi Solid. It cannot be Coated in Haki.

AdCoC whenever used shows us Haki trails like this.
It's luffy Single Handedly Creating AdCoC lightening.
Where as Kaidou isn't Producing any form of lightening.
Over here , Only Luffy is using Barrier Haki and Ryou to protect itself from heat and Kaidou is chewing down from a distance. They do not touch.
Consider above hand as Bajrang Gun and Block of stone as Kaidou.
Do they both touch ? No.
Only hand is producing Haki , not the stone.

kaidou Covers himself in very hot flames , Flames are gaseous in Nature and Cannot be Used as Coated with Haki as It has no Physical Form to be coated in haki to begin with.

- Zori completely Substitute Ryou with Air slash whenever he wants to send a Hakified slash.
- Garp and Coby uses Only Ryou and AdCoC in case of Garp. They flow their Haki to make it look like canon. They are not Coating anything beside their hands with Haki. There's is no air or shockwave which is being Hakified here.
Kaidou Attacks is not at all Hakified. Literally no Visual Factors proves Kaidou used Haki there.
I hope I'm getting my points through.
 
I'll answer you one by one. As far as I understood your arguments.
- First , Zoro Air slashes being Hakified
- Second , Smoker Condition
- Third , Aokiji and Garp
- Fouth , Garp and Coby.

First,

Second , and Third , I'll answer them both Simultaneously.

Fourth , Garp and Coby


Why are even Discussing this to begin with.

I hope I'm getting my points through.
Wtf are you talking about 😂
 
Dragon, Akainu, Aokiji, Fujitora and Mihawk are guaranteed to have it
Beckman is very likely
Not sure about Teach he’s the first in history to eat two fruits, he will have strong haki obviously but 3 fruits exclusively would be cooler
Smoker
Lolby
Garling
Sabo
 
I researched and found a few things out.
- First , we have no evidence of Zori ever making his Air Slashes Hakified , None of thr attacks were ever Hakified like it should hurt a logia type/Paramacia Type.


That's one and THE example of Zoro hakifying his air slashes.
As you see, Zoro didn't even have to use hardening on his swords to cut Monet from afar.

Also, nice paragraphs but you didn't really say that much, seriously. Zoro neither used some huge Ryuo based move on Monet, nor was it even a named attack. It was just a random ass air slashes which was coated with CoA. Air slashes will have Haki if Zoro unleashes his Ryuo into them. He can drop normal air slashes but it doesn't mean air slashes cannot become hakified.
Nevertheless, nice effort for your analysis.

And no sword style , these are only two I can find and I was correct.
- Without Sword zoro is not creating any of cuts.
1.) I didn't ask for proof whether Zoro cuts or not with his no sword style
2.) I asked you for evidence regarding your assertion that Zoro needs to cut in order to implement his slashes with Ryuo.

Gaseous, Plasma , Energy form of Logia cannot be coated in Haki like , Semi-Liquid / Solid types of Logia.
Evidence?
Air is gaseous and yet, Ryuo can be implemented into these - proof is Zoro, Garp or Coby.

But you need something " Solid to Coat in Haki with ".
Mhm, I don't recall such a thing being mentioned in One Piece lol.
But go ahead:

If Smoker Hakified Hands were smoke , It wouldn't be in one place to begin with , Logia type with properties of Gas or Plasma , don't have a Physical body like Solid/Liquid type of Logia types.
Um, no?
Smoker perfectly can aim where he hardens his body in the first place. That's hardening. Invisible CoA completely coats the body anyway but it's mostly too weak to block an attack 100%.

Also, Haki is 100% flexible and adaptive; that's why Luffy's body was both rubbery yet steel hard when Doflamingo tried to cut him with Athlete.
Katakuri's mochi was still sticky and slimy despite him adding hardening on it.
Proof: Zangiri Mochi.
Another proof: At the tea party when Katakuri entrapped Luffy with his G3 hardened leg and Luffy was unable to get outta it.
Water is not solid yet it'd behave like bedrock if you fell from approximately 20km into the ocean. Your body would still be completely ruptured despite water not being solid.

if he bites Hakified hands of Smoker. Smoker will get hurt when Hordy isn't even Using haki.
understand now?
No, that's just wrong, sorry lol.
Hody would still just bite smoke (and most likely still would lose his teeth since it's hard and not solid at the same time) yet would get hurt if Smoker decided to punch him with his hardened fist. I know it's complicated but that's how Haki basically operates.

Like Zori case I explained above. It's ryou , which on Impact makes shockwaves , it isn't shockwave which is coated in haki.
Wdym "which on impact makes shockwaves"? Garp wasn't even touching the ground. He dropped a huge ass shockwave unleashing huge black lightning strikes and wiped out an entire city block.

Again, Luffy used ID Haki several times yet he never created massive shockwaves like that.

Zoro flying slashes are not Coated in haki. It's Ryoh only which on Impact cuts the user , Zori completely Replaced the Air Slashes with Ryou in all the examples I have shared.
I'm not following you again.
Like, is Zoro bending space by unleashing his Ryuo and his slash doesn't even have to travel a distance and it instantly cuts the enemy by contact?
You say, Zoro's slash is 100% Ryuo but Ryuo itself doesn't just cut, it needs to adapt to a specific property - the nature of a very cutting, high pressured air.

Again, it's a flying slash and it is mostly powered by Ryuo. It's air and Haki at the same time. Zoro's just dropping huge air pressure - which cuts the enemy - with his strength and swordsmanship. It's not that serious.

Kaidou Blazing Bagua form , first isn't a Physical Form. Kaidou takes in all the Flame cloud and Coat himself with Flame clouds.
Once again, Kaido's blazing bagua itself cannot produce the effect to have a "no-touch" clash with Luffy's Bajrang Gun.

It is not nearly enough and Luffy's ACoCed island sized punch would just straight punch through this massive chunk of a fire dragon since it's no solid.
The force of a throwing island sized punch is far more superior than an island sized fireball, just by sheer mass.

Also, no lightning traits do not mean much considering they still appeared when Kaido and Luffy clashed at the end.

You said "It could also be a pure CoC clash without ACoC" whilst missing the point that even basic CoC emission still emits huge black lightning traits.
Evidence Nr.1: Doflamingo and Luffy clashing.
Evidence Nr.2: Katakuri's and Luffy's CoC colliding and damaging the environment in result.
Basic CoC outburst can't be offensively or defensively used. That's why one must omit Ryuo with CoC as the powersource to make it either offensive or defensive.
Kaido would have no way to defend himself properly from an ACoC island sized punch if he wasn't coating his own attack with ACoC at least.
 
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