[FNZ] Salem of Lies Return of the Throne (Unofficial)

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See flower let me blunt with you.


You don't enjoy confirm town cred. No one enjoys confirm town cred on day one.

I already said that based on timing and with no counter claim she is likely to be princess.

But condition is with no counter claim.....


But your claim raises some problems....


1)it was totally unwarranted and you literally spoon fed scums that you are invest. This is problem especially when players can be converted and tomorrow we won't be having any idea whether conversion happened or not. And, if yes then who got converted?



2) your claim isn't unique. It's common and can be faked. The only way to confirm is to cross check if there is any counter claim and if yes then invest or scum hunt to see if both are speaking truth(as we can have two same roles in game) or one of them is.

Also, you diverted attention towards by claiming.

You have to see from town perspective and you know very well we are making sense.

Anyway, what's done is done.
Why so concerned about me claiming? Or are you just acting that part? I felt Town vibes from you before, but now you seem like you're trying to convince people that I could still be scum. People know what to do if they wanna confirm my claim.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Why so concerned about me claiming? Or are you just acting that part? I felt Town vibes from you before, but now you seem like you're trying to convince people that I could still be scum. People know what to do if they wanna confirm my claim.
As if I care what vibes you feel from me.


I will speak what I feel.

And, quote my post convinicing people that you are scum. I dare you.......
 
As if I care what vibes you feel from me.


I will speak what I feel.

And, quote my post convinicing people that you are scum. I dare you.......
You can do that. But stuff like that always causes unnecessary paranoia. I claimed to prevent having to defend myself all the time and now I have to continue doing that. Sigh...


Anyway, from what I got from this DP I get strong Town vs Town vibes from a lot of the arguments here. Hence I'm thinking scum is among the more quiet players who can hide behind those arguments and slip under the radar that way.

Vote lynch Sunita.

I know you're new, but I would like to hear more from you.

@Sunita .
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
But nobody asked her to claim . She outed herself after her argument with fb , NW .
I know that....


Her Claiming was unwarranted but since no one is countering then it stands valid

Timing is crucial here. She outed herself openly. That's not scummy....

If she would have been scum then claiming in such way doesn't add up...
 

Melontonin

Blood Manipulation
You can do that. But stuff like that always causes unnecessary paranoia. I claimed to prevent having to defend myself all the time and now I have to continue doing that. Sigh...


Anyway, from what I got from this DP I get strong Town vs Town vibes from a lot of the arguments here. Hence I'm thinking scum is among the more quiet players who can hide behind those arguments and slip under the radar that way.

Vote lynch Sunita.

I know you're new, but I would like to hear more from you.

@Sunita .
Can I just ask why are you lynching Sunita? What do you expect from this action
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I know that....


Her Claiming was unwarranted but since no one is countering then it stands valid

Timing is crucial here. She outed herself openly. That's not scummy....

If she would have been scum then claiming in such way doesn't add up...
It's true that timing is crutial however there are players that are offline at this very moment and can't counter claim if they were to have that role
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
Can I just ask why are you lynching Sunita? What do you expect from this action
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It's true that timing is crutial however there are players that are offline at this very moment and can't counter claim if they were to have that role
Sunita is a completely inexperienced and unfamiliar with these games player, it reeks as a move of desperateness when this is the most casual bold kind of lynch given that it finds its roots merely into inactiveness 🤔
 
Sunita is a completely inexperienced and unfamiliar with these games player, it reeks as a move of desperateness when this is the most casual bold kind of lynch given that it finds its roots merely into inactiveness 🤔
Are you desperate to paint me as scum or do you just want to be right about me being scum?
 

AL sama

Red Haired
Sunita is a completely inexperienced and unfamiliar with these games player, it reeks as a move of desperateness when this is the most casual bold kind of lynch given that it finds its roots merely into inactiveness 🤔
desperateness for what exactly??

a vote can be used in many way

beta get good
 
F

Fallen Prince

Sunita looks like complete begineer . Maybe her proficincey with english is hampering her from playing.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
It's true that timing is crutial however there are players that are offline at this very moment and can't counter claim if they were to have that role
True!!

But you have to factor in two things...

1) flower claimed not now but hours ago. I am sure most if not all already saw that claim yet no one countered.

2)if some missed due to being offline then it's just day one..we can still learn from them tomorrow. It's not like flower can change her claim tomorrow.






My concern is that what if conversion happens tonight which is likely to happen as it's day one. I, as cult leader in past preferred conversions over kill to increase my faction strength to maximum before I go for kills...
 

Light D Lamperouge

𝖂𝖍𝖆𝖙 𝕮𝖔𝖚𝖑𝖉 𝕳𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝕭𝖊𝖊𝖓
@Light D Lamperouge if you caught up with the pages then tell me your reads. If you are good king then you should show us the path.... don't you think?
My top sus at the moment is Flowa. Claimed a role that can easily be fake claimed from what I see, flip flopping with Kiwi, not answering my questions. My biggest concern is that she might actually be a fool and is trying to get lynched.

Lanji is a townie imo. He's asking questions, calling out people, active in scum hunting. I've only seen him as mafia once and his style was very different.

You I already said, townie.

Zara has a lot of fluff posts and hasn't contributed much. In the last game he was more helpful, although he subbed in that game and it was almost the end.

Sunita no read so far. Barely made posts and I have no idea how she usually plays.

Melon mostly helped with some mechanics and had some jokes here and there. Seeing as she's a new player I can put her neutral so far, maybe leaning townie.


Kiwi was weird to me, basically said that no matter what I do I am scum to her, but seeing that Flowa flip flopped with her, and her being my top sus, I'll put Kiwi as neutral for now.

I've read your and Marimo's talk and I do agree that his play seems a bit different now. Staying back for some reason, like something is holding him off from playing his town self.

AL is more active in his play this time, compared to when he was survivor in the last game. That's the only game I played with him, and seeing as people mention he is usually less active when scum makes me think he is townie. He's also the one with the most votes currently, unless I missed something, but doesn't appear to be panicking. Though it can be because 10 votes are needed to lynch him.


FB seems like a town. Susing back whoever he thinks is susing him.

NW is weird. I still think he's either a frustrated townie or a fool. I am more inclined to believe the first one now though.


When it comes to Sera I don't know. Saw his and Fuji's back and forth and I think Fuji is a townie and that looked like a town vs town to me.
Most of what happened actually looked like town vs town to me.

Cobra I currently don't have a strong read on. Barely posted, wanted to cut the day phase. Probably a townie just wanting some action to happen.


Krog answered some questions about mechanics here and there and seemed a bit diplomatic in his posts. I think that matches his usual play so I am not alarmed by him so far.
 
What makes you think that being less contributive and even refraining from learning Will help you learn about the set up??

Best way to learn is by actively participating which would not help you in learning the game but also help us get reactions...

If BD then you shouldn't be afraid of getting killed or Lynched. If BD with inactive contribution plays in hand of Scums....

I don't like such play...

@Zara many of your posts are fluff so what reads you have so far?


@Light D Lamperouge if you caught up with the pages then tell me your reads. If you are good king then you should show us the path.... don't you think?


@AL sama i am waiting for your "solid reads" you talked about..


@Sunita and @Cobra what faction/alignment do you belong to?


Courtroom:
1. @Finalbeta
2. @Zara
3. @Seraphoenix
4. @krogothwolf
5. @Kiwipom
6. @Fujishiro
7. @Light D Lamperouge
8. @AL sama
9. @LANJI CUCKSMOKE
10. @Flower
11. @Cobra.
12. @Fallen Prince
13. @Sunita
14. @Melontonin
15. @Queen
16. @Reborn
17. @NeutralWatcher
18. @Marimo_420


You all does any one of you have role that can counter flower claim of being princess?? If yes then it's right time to come out....and, if no then ignore this question.
I know that....


Her Claiming was unwarranted but since no one is countering then it stands valid

Timing is crucial here. She outed herself openly. That's not scummy....

If she would have been scum then claiming in such way doesn't add up...
What kind of counter claim are you looking for here Reborn? Isn't Princess a role that multiple people can have? Or are you asking if there are people that have day abilities that can be used to check her claim?
 
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