Current Events This Chapter proves that the Alliance will fail in this Act and beat Kaido in Flower Capital

[Fuckthis3]

Yeah, it's basically set in stone that the alliance is catching a major ass whooping in Onigashima.

- Kaidou and Big mom whoop their asses.
- They're taken to the capital
- Set for execution
- Marines come in and cause havoc
- Grand Fleet shows up and frees the alliance or what's left

Zoro cuts of Kaido's head above the capital and Luffy lands the last punch on Big mom.
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The only way i see the alliance not getting beaten is:

While the Beast pirates slowly start to overwhelm the alliance, they get word off Wano being invaded by the WG. This causes that Big mom and Kaidou immediately set off for the capital mid fight and the alliance follows later.

Bruh aint you was against the Alliance Falling??? i surprise you giving up that fast

 

[Drachenblut]

Orochi is not dead why ? Kaido would have known if he had multiple lives. Yamata no Orochi is not Hydra

Orochi is paranoid. He has seen how the grandma was killed by kaido. Just because he didn't like her meddling in his fight with oden.

Again, orochi is paranoid. Do anyone really believe that he never ever thought that kaido might betray him? I mean, come on, what can he and his samurai do against kaido and his crew? And they are already in wano, so they don't even have the natural advantage of wano and it's borders.


Again, orochi is paranoid. Would he really tell all his secrets to kaido? Won't he have a few aces up his sleeve? As a preparation for the worst to come? Why should he tell kaido the full extend of his ability?


Nope, he is not dead. For that would not fit his character.

 

[MarineHQ]

Bruh aint you was against the Alliance Falling??? i surprise you giving up that fast

I was against it because i want this arc to fucking reach its climax already. I don't care for any newly introduced character or theme, just want fights.

But i won't and can't deny where the current raid is leading which is the alliances failure.

 

[Garp the Fist]

Why ? Luffy lost twice against Crocodile. Luffy will probably try to fight Kaido here but fail

His crew didn't lose their fights though, did they?

 

[Dark Hound]

Orochi is paranoid. He has seen how the grandma was killed by kaido. Just because he didn't like her meddling in his fight with oden.

Again, orochi is paranoid. Do anyone really believe that he never ever thought that kaido might betray him? I mean, come on, what can he and his samurai do against kaido and his crew? And they are already in wano, so they don't even have the natural advantage of wano and it's borders.


Again, orochi is paranoid. Would he really tell all his secrets to kaido? Won't he have a few aces up his sleeve? As a preparation for the worst to come? Why should he tell kaido the full extend of his ability?


Nope, he is not dead. For that would not fit his character.

You don't have to repeat three times that he is paranoid, we never saw him doubting Kaido. He even got shocked at the end.

Also it fits his character. he is the betrayer and dishonest and got killed ironically and got betrayed. Fits perfectly

 

[Drachenblut]

Just because we haven't seen it, doesn't mean that he does not doubt kaido^^

We will see it in a few chapters. :-)

 

[Paperchampion23]

I don't think the alliance has to "fail" per say. Kaido could just take Momo and a captured Yamato etc to the Flower Capital. BM can fly regardless, like Kaido. The F6 could reside on Onigashima with Queen (he allegedly commands them). Perhaps Jack stays too. King, being a flyer can go with Kaido and Linlin. BMP could take the Hakumai entrance to Flower Capital and meet with Kaido's group.

This way, we get 2 avenues of war depending on who travels with Luffy (Marco, Zoro, Kid, Law, etc) to face the Yonko and BMP, while others stay behind to face 2 All Stars and the F6/Numbers.

There is plenty to go around without having the alliance completely fail. That's not to say it wont or it can't, but I in the least expect Luffy to get his ass kicked again, he's super cocky atm due to 1 power up he obtained.

 

[Fuckthis3]

For me i still think luffy and Alliance still goin win the first try no feedback

 

[dirtyLarry]

This Chapter was the final nail in the coffin and Mr.Morj was right : Alliance will fail and Kaido needs to be beaten in front of the people

Well, yes, but it's not like this was a deduction masterpiece or anything.

Don't get me wrong, Morj is a good OP youtuber.

However, anyone, who thought a bit about the current "Raid on Onigashima" situation and how Oda usually writes his big final standoffs, should've come to the same conclusion.

There was absolutely no way they defeat Kaido & Co. on Onigashima, without anyone of the oppressed Wano citizens witnessing this historic victory.

 

[Formerly Seth]

Well, yes, but it's not like this was a deduction masterpiece or anything.

Don't get me wrong, Morj is a good OP youtuber.

However, anyone, who thought a bit about the current "Raid on Onigashima" situation and how Oda usually writes his big final standoffs, should've come to the same conclusion.

There was absolutely no way they defeat Kaido & Co. on Onigashima without anyone of the oppressed citizens witnessing this historic victory.

Screw the citizens. All we need is Morgans

 

[Paperchampion23]

Well, yes, but it's not like this was a deduction masterpiece or anything.

Don't get me wrong, Morj is a good OP youtuber.

However, anyone, who thought a bit about the current "Raid on Onigashima" situation and how Oda usually writes his big final standoffs, should've come to the same conclusion.

There was absolutely no way they defeat Kaido & Co. on Onigashima, without anyone of the oppressed Wano citizens witnessing this historic victory.

Yep, I've been saying this since before Act 3 even started. It was very clear to me once key characters (Tengu, Tama, Hiyori) weren't even present during the raid. That right there should tell people there was always going to be more plot outside of Onigashima.

 

[Formerly Seth]

For me i still think luffy and Alliance still goin win the first try no feedback

Nah. You ain't growing from one shot KO to beating a Yonko in a week.

They need Admirals.

 

[Fuckthis3]

Nah. You ain't growing from one shot KO to beating a Yonko in a week.

They need Admirals.

Yea but then you forgot about PLOT Armor

 

[Formerly Seth]

Yea but then you forgot about PLOT Armor

Did Oda forget about Plot Armor in 923?

 

[Fuckthis3]

Did Oda forget about Plot Armor in 923?

Yes kaido shoulda kill him but "join my crew"

 

[Finalbeta]

I don't feel like Oda ever forgets about Plot Armor

He is coherent with his choices

See the parallel Ulti/Monet

Luffy always fares bad against the weaklings

 

[kom5]

This Chapter was the final nail in the coffin and Mr.Morj was right : Alliance will fail and Kaido needs to be beaten in front of the people

Kaido said in this chapter that Onigashima will be transferred to Flower Capital, Alliance will fail tragically in this act and they're gonna have to go in hiding, meanwhile both Kaido and Big Mom will transfer to Flower Capital and Luffy and the rest of the Alliance will fight

1) Orochi is gonna be exposed :

- If he is dead then it will shock the people and they will realize he is not their savior or anything and that they are all at the mercy of Kaido, they will all suffer and be slaves and poor like people at Ebisu

- If he is alive he will still be exposed as a weakling and will try to avenge against Kaido, I don't think he is alive because his role has been fulfilled. Maybe would be good if he is exposed as an evil opportunist in front of the people.

In both cases everyone will realize Orochi was not a dual wielding savior badass and all the propaganda will be exposed.

Which brings us to the second point

2) They will ask for a savior : nd Luffy will be. (with Yamato ?)

In every arc, the villain is defeated in front of the people or with their awareness of the fact : Enel, Doffy, Crocodile... you name it. kaido will be no different. his defeat will mean jackshit if no Wano citizen know nothing about it. If they don't know what happen it isn't as meaningful, rite ?

Yamato will fulfill Oden's will and open Wano's borders.

Everything fits

If its really true then the alliance will need one hell of assitance the Beast Pirates alone are 20.000 men strong and equal to the other yonko crews now they are gonna make Wanos army fully join there army just the Shogun consort was 10.000 men strong with gaining the Shogun title they will fully gain the control of Wanos armies there might will increase

Plus the Big Mom Pirates which will also many ten thousand men strong and totlands royal army which is also prob hundreds of thousands men strong

I think the alliance will need hell more men to match this possible might or they will finish them off now

 

[Albino 👑]

Luffy and momo will chase kaido when he leaves to wano

 

[Dark Hound]

His crew didn't lose their fights though, did they?

No but their fights will be on Flower capital

 

[Garp the Fist]

No but their fights will be on Flower capital

Why do they need to be in the Flower Capital? Why, after spending eighty chapters- and counting- gathering all these characters in place for a huge battle, do we then need to have everyone then move back to the island they left to set up the fights again? Makes absolutely no sense and would unnaturally extend the arc another half year just to appease power level junkies.