General & Others Oden needed Enma to scar Kaido

#1


A lot of people read disregard the fact we were straight up told enma is how oden scarred kaido. Mainly being because the scar has to intersecting slashes for each blade

And yes while oden very obviously used both of his swords while cutting kaido he wouldn’t have been able to do as much as he did without enma


Same way zoro using enma is capable of exuding the haki throughout all his swords oden was capable of the same just more casually

That doesn’t change the fact oden was extremely powerful and had to be to use enma to its fullest but again without it he’s not doing as much. Swap out enma for wado and man is definitely doing less. Give him nidai and enma tho and his output would probably be insane

Probably at best doing as much as his retainers version of his attack without it

So basically
  • Kaido is just that tough
  • Enma is 2 for 2 when it comes to swords that scarred kaido
  • Yes oden is obviously strong and him needing enma doesn’t diminish his strength. Him mastering it is a reflection of how strong he really is. By default same applies to zoro
 
#4
basically
  • Kaido is just that tough
  • Enma is 2 for 2 when it comes to swords that scarred kaido
  • Yes oden is obviously strong and him needing enma doesn’t diminish his strength. Him mastering it is a reflection of how strong he really is. By default same applies to zoro

"Zoro and Oden only scarred Kaido because of magic sword Enma. All merit goes to it".
You have to know how to read in order to do a tldr
 
#5
This thread came way too late why the delay I wonder. You didn’t say thing about this during Wano in your extreme Enma worshiping period :watchout:
Loden scarred Kaido with both Enma and Ame no habakiri both swords played equal part so this thread is just more Enma worship to downplay marimo
 
#12
I feel it’s okay to acknowledge that Emma is a strong tool/weapon that not only makes the user stronger through mastering it but proves how powerful the individual is

Most people would struggle to use it to zoro’s current effectiveness let alone odens. Most people wouldn’t even be able to use the blade at all
 
#13
I feel it’s okay to acknowledge that Emma is a strong tool/weapon that not only makes the user stronger through mastering it but proves how powerful the individual is

Most people would struggle to use it to zoro’s current effectiveness let alone odens. Most people wouldn’t even be able to use the blade at all
Well the problem here of course is that you’re giving Enma powers is doesn’t have

For example only AdvCoC can scar Kaido… Enma has nothing to do with AdvCoC… It only affects CoA… and yet here we are
 
#14
Well the problem here of course is that you’re giving Enma powers is doesn’t have

For example only AdvCoC can scar Kaido… Enma has nothing to do with AdvCoC… It only affects CoA… and yet here we are
Then why didn't Shanks and other scar Kaido since they also have adcoc?

Enma is why Oden and Zoro scarred Kaido
Oden just has more better AP than Zoro that's why his scar is bigger and also weakened Kaido
 
#20


A lot of people read disregard the fact we were straight up told enma is how oden scarred kaido. Mainly being because the scar has to intersecting slashes for each blade

And yes while oden very obviously used both of his swords while cutting kaido he wouldn’t have been able to do as much as he did without enma


Same way zoro using enma is capable of exuding the haki throughout all his swords oden was capable of the same just more casually

That doesn’t change the fact oden was extremely powerful and had to be to use enma to its fullest but again without it he’s not doing as much. Swap out enma for wado and man is definitely doing less. Give him nidai and enma tho and his output would probably be insane

Probably at best doing as much as his retainers version of his attack without it

So basically
  • Kaido is just that tough
  • Enma is 2 for 2 when it comes to swords that scarred kaido
  • Yes oden is obviously strong and him needing enma doesn’t diminish his strength. Him mastering it is a reflection of how strong he really is. By default same applies to zoro
Here we go again with this nonsense.

Enma is not the reason neither Oden nor Zoro scarred Kaido. It was because of the strength of their haki. Enma doesn't give the user any haki or more power. It uses the current user's haki.

The scene is mistranslated. It should have said, enma is the legendary sword that gave Kaido his only one. Not enma is the only sword able to wound Kaido.


Then why didn't Shanks and other scar Kaido since they also have adcoc?

Enma is why Oden and Zoro scarred Kaido
Oden just has more better AP than Zoro that's why his scar is bigger and also weakened Kaido
The reason Oden left a bigger scar on Kaido was because Zoro was only using CoA at the time and Zoro was weakened with 20 to 30 broken bones.
 
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