General & Others Zoro s confirmed to be the deuteragonist.
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@Logiko ZKKclowns are being hypocrites, they don't care about Oda saying the series ends with finding One Piece because they don't want Teach being final villain, then they use Oda saying Ryuma (who has different personality than Zolo) to make Zolo as 2nd most important character even though Zolo has no plot relevance to the story other than being a member of Luffy's crew, Zolo is no different than Sanji or Nami, or Usopp etc.
You are dumb af lmao, Zolo himself says he isn't good with 1 sword, and can't beat fodders like Nyaban brothers without 3 swords LMAO.
Also needed to steal Nerfed Killer's blade so he could use 3 blades to attack him;
While Ryuma is different, he only uses 1 sword style.
Zolo was separated from Luffy same as the crew. Oda doesn't separate Zolo from the SH crew, he doesn't make Zolo even vice-captain, Sanji and others don't give af about Zolo, and Zolo can't lead SH Pirates if Luffy didn't exist.
Zolo has plot relevance to story only because of Luffy.
Same as other Luffy's crew members, Zolo is not above them.
Ryuma wasn't a sidekick to someone in a pirate crew, he had his own Manga story, Zolo is a sidekick to Luffy, and he won't have his own Manga story.
What Zolo will do without Luffy?
You clowns are desperate
Emperors are the most important characters for the story.
Zolo is irrelevant without Luffy, Sanji won't follow him as leader and some of them wouldn't follow as well, maybe only Chopper follows him while calling him ''hopeless idiot'', Zolo can't even lead the SH Pirates if Luffy dies.
You are dumb af lmao, Zolo himself says he isn't good with 1 sword, and can't beat fodders like Nyaban brothers without 3 swords LMAO.
Also needed to steal Nerfed Killer's blade so he could use 3 blades to attack him;
While Ryuma is different, he only uses 1 sword style.
lol what
Nami: if they want to face a yonko, they should at least have Zoro.
so Teach is more Ryuma than Zoro?
Zoro isn’t just stoic.
Zoro is the first mate, the guy everyone looks to when Luffy isn’t around. Zoro was second and Nami third. So Nami is the third mc. This isn’t hard to understand.
Nami: if they want to face a yonko, they should at least have Zoro.
so Teach is more Ryuma than Zoro?
Zoro isn’t just stoic.
Zoro is the first mate, the guy everyone looks to when Luffy isn’t around. Zoro was second and Nami third. So Nami is the third mc. This isn’t hard to understand.
Zolo has plot relevance to story only because of Luffy.
Same as other Luffy's crew members, Zolo is not above them.
Ryuma wasn't a sidekick to someone in a pirate crew, he had his own Manga story, Zolo is a sidekick to Luffy, and he won't have his own Manga story.
What Zolo will do without Luffy?
You clowns are desperate
Emperors are the most important characters for the story.
Zolo is irrelevant without Luffy, Sanji won't follow him as leader and some of them wouldn't follow as well, maybe only Chopper follows him while calling him ''hopeless idiot'', Zolo can't even lead the SH Pirates if Luffy dies.
It means Zoro is a Karateka who is also a swordsman. 
If Zoro is only a swordman he can't be mainly a karateka.
I know that you are coping and trying to sneak your way in through this argument, but you can't win this one I'm sorry.
You have to choose, either you believe the story and the fact that Zoro is only a swordman either you believe that Zoro is mainly a karateka following the potential words of Oda.
OR
You can also believe that both are true but the words of Oda are happening in a parrallel story, not in the one you have in your hands when you buy the manga.
So, what vision do you choose ?
It's funny how you try choosing bullshit scenarios to excuse your autistic takes but like I said again, your words do not matter when the author gives statements to the story.
Now let me explain something, alright?
SBS statements only, but ONLY, get retconned when the manga later on states the complete contrast or Oda suddenly gives a different statement. ONLY then, it's invalid.
We're looking out if statements are up-to-date or outdated. Your little scenarios are just baseless nonsense.
In the One Piece world, you have swordsmen like Fujitora who is also a swordsman despite being a DF user. Zoro launches haki slashes at his opponents, he even kicks them. He is still a swordsman.
So even if it was said, Zoro is only a swordsman in name, he still can have experience of a karateka. In fact, he has a no sword style.
So let me further address your hypothetical situation: If Zoro was previously drawn as a swordsman only but Oda later gives a statement of Zoro being a Karateka as well, this statement got retconned - Zoro is both Karateka and a Swordsman in fact. It's that simple.
Nope, Oda's statement is about his current story, lol. In fact, the SBS interview is recently, hence even after +1110 chapters, Oda still needed to reiterate to remind the fandom that Zoro is the deuteragonist in fact. Nothing changed about his position. He is still the Nr. 2, he is still stoic and rational, he still has his goofy moments although they reduced quite a bit over the years, he still fights the Nr. 2, he still aims at the WSS title, he still is Luffy's right hand man, etc.
You're just on some pathetic cope.
Now let me explain something, alright?
SBS statements only, but ONLY, get retconned when the manga later on states the complete contrast or Oda suddenly gives a different statement. ONLY then, it's invalid.
We're looking out if statements are up-to-date or outdated. Your little scenarios are just baseless nonsense.
In the One Piece world, you have swordsmen like Fujitora who is also a swordsman despite being a DF user. Zoro launches haki slashes at his opponents, he even kicks them. He is still a swordsman.
So even if it was said, Zoro is only a swordsman in name, he still can have experience of a karateka. In fact, he has a no sword style.
So let me further address your hypothetical situation: If Zoro was previously drawn as a swordsman only but Oda later gives a statement of Zoro being a Karateka as well, this statement got retconned - Zoro is both Karateka and a Swordsman in fact. It's that simple.
Nope, Oda's statement is about his current story, lol. In fact, the SBS interview is recently, hence even after +1110 chapters, Oda still needed to reiterate to remind the fandom that Zoro is the deuteragonist in fact. Nothing changed about his position. He is still the Nr. 2, he is still stoic and rational, he still has his goofy moments although they reduced quite a bit over the years, he still fights the Nr. 2, he still aims at the WSS title, he still is Luffy's right hand man, etc.
You're just on some pathetic cope.
Oh, so you are choosing the coward way out by choosing not answer the question ?
Lol no mate, you are not understanding.
You can wriggle around all you want, you will need to answer this question mate. And I already know the answer. That's why you have only ONE escape path here:
To understand that you are wrong.
Again, I'm talking about ANTITHETIC vision here, not some things that are compatibles.
The question is clear:
In the potentiality that Oda is saying X is Y AND if Oda is showing (and telling) that X is NOT Y in the story at the same time, WHICH vision do you chooses to follow ?
I want you to understand the difference between narration and author's statements.
So give me an answer, stop wriggling around to avoid the question or stop talking and prove to me that you don't know how to answer without being proven wrong.
Lol no mate, you are not understanding.
You can wriggle around all you want, you will need to answer this question mate. And I already know the answer. That's why you have only ONE escape path here:
To understand that you are wrong.
Again, I'm talking about ANTITHETIC vision here, not some things that are compatibles.
The question is clear:
In the potentiality that Oda is saying X is Y AND if Oda is showing (and telling) that X is NOT Y in the story at the same time, WHICH vision do you chooses to follow ?
I want you to understand the difference between narration and author's statements.
So give me an answer, stop wriggling around to avoid the question or stop talking and prove to me that you don't know how to answer without being proven wrong.
If Zolo is No.2 in terms of importance to the story then every crew member should listen Zolo and follow Zolo's lead if Luffy dies. You really think thats going to happen? Sanji, Nami, Robin, Franky, Usopp none of these guys would give af about Zolo, they wouldn't follow him, and Zolo himself doesn't have any ambition to lead them as well.
Oda doesn't say Zolo directly for a reason, he still says Ryuma, Ryuma is a different personality, who has his own Manga series. Also there are literally early designs about Zolo being in Buggy's crew member, we are going to act like this didn't happen?
Oda doesn't say Zolo directly for a reason, he still says Ryuma, Ryuma is a different personality, who has his own Manga series. Also there are literally early designs about Zolo being in Buggy's crew member, we are going to act like this didn't happen?
No, you're just jumping on the bullshit train and come up with ridiculous scenarios to make your argument more logical.
I don't NEED to answer anything; I could also just ignore your stupid ass and call it a day, lol.
Yet, I decided to engage further in a discussion with you, to see whether I truly waste my time on an arrogant guy like you.
Oh, alright, so now you're choosing a scenario of two different statements happening at the same time? Bruh lol...
You wouldn't like that answer but it is OBVIOUSLY the statement which Oda had extra need to correct in a SBS, a statement DIRECTLY from the author of the manga. Meanwhile, statements coming from characters can either be meant as a way for the author to put his own words to the character and this character repeats his words like a megaphone, or the statement is purposely written in a way that it's not reliable on purpose. For example, the narrator often emphasized on the "fact" that Kaido is the strongest but he always made sure to include "People often say...", so it's rather a rumor than a pure fleshed out fact.
So there is not this confusion when the author speaks directly, without beating around the bush.
So in that case, author's words > narration because dude, you cannot seriously argue against the guy who WRITES the narrative in the first place. He created this world, all the rules, all the characters and if Oda feels to correct on something, it will affect the narrative and the laws of this world automatically because he is the one who created them.
Nice cope out tho.
I don't NEED to answer anything; I could also just ignore your stupid ass and call it a day, lol.
Yet, I decided to engage further in a discussion with you, to see whether I truly waste my time on an arrogant guy like you.
Oh, alright, so now you're choosing a scenario of two different statements happening at the same time? Bruh lol...
You wouldn't like that answer but it is OBVIOUSLY the statement which Oda had extra need to correct in a SBS, a statement DIRECTLY from the author of the manga. Meanwhile, statements coming from characters can either be meant as a way for the author to put his own words to the character and this character repeats his words like a megaphone, or the statement is purposely written in a way that it's not reliable on purpose. For example, the narrator often emphasized on the "fact" that Kaido is the strongest but he always made sure to include "People often say...", so it's rather a rumor than a pure fleshed out fact.
So there is not this confusion when the author speaks directly, without beating around the bush.
So in that case, author's words > narration because dude, you cannot seriously argue against the guy who WRITES the narrative in the first place. He created this world, all the rules, all the characters and if Oda feels to correct on something, it will affect the narrative and the laws of this world automatically because he is the one who created them.
Nice cope out tho.
There is nothing ridiculous here.
Its
SIMPLE
LOGIC
Again, let me repeat it to you since you don't want to answer it:
In the potentiality that Oda is saying X = Y OUTSIDE of the story AND if Oda is showing and telling that X =/= Y in the story at the same time..
WHICH vision do you chooses to follow ?
Simple question. So, answer me
Yeah, that's your only (coward) way out
This is called a logical thought experiment. I'm purpusely choosing a simple logical scenario in which you have to make a choice to make you understand why you are wrong.
So you are telling me (I'm summing up because your paragraph is very confusing, on purpose I guess) that in the case where:
Oda says (outside of the story) that X=Y
But at the SAME TIME, he is SHOWING and TELLING us through his story that X=/=Y
You would rather follow the words of Oda in a random interview or sbs rather than the story that you have in your hands ?
Is that what you are telling me ?
Its
SIMPLE
LOGIC
Again, let me repeat it to you since you don't want to answer it:
In the potentiality that Oda is saying X = Y OUTSIDE of the story AND if Oda is showing and telling that X =/= Y in the story at the same time..
WHICH vision do you chooses to follow ?
Simple question. So, answer me
Yeah, that's your only (coward) way out
This is called a logical thought experiment. I'm purpusely choosing a simple logical scenario in which you have to make a choice to make you understand why you are wrong.
So you are telling me (I'm summing up because your paragraph is very confusing, on purpose I guess) that in the case where:
Oda says (outside of the story) that X=Y
But at the SAME TIME, he is SHOWING and TELLING us through his story that X=/=Y
You would rather follow the words of Oda in a random interview or sbs rather than the story that you have in your hands ?
Is that what you are telling me ?
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It's not cute, your crying and seething is amusing lol.
I don't recall any of that - must be a parallel world.
Don't lie; you tried convincing people that G5 was the best thing ever happening in fiction - a true masterpiece when Oda foreshadowed everything perfectly and everything went perfectly fine looking at the narration.
LMAO
LMAO 2.0
The lack of self awareness is strong in this one.
Who says this? You? Oda obviously have a different definition to what a deuteragonist means than you and if he believes that the Nr. 2 is still the deuteragonist - even after +1100 chapters, why do you vehemently try to argue against it? It's illogical because a deuteragonist doesn't have to set the story in motion. That's the protagonist.
It doesn't and Oda clearly disagrees.
It's you who comes up with narration. Oda never stated Zoro is the most important character after Luffy in terms of narration when he is still fulfilling his role of supporting Luffy till the end. That's his role as a deuteragonist.
The initial definition was derived from the ancient greek but modern literature clearly have different meaning and definitions for them.
You are the only one projecting shit.
???
A deuteragonist is often a secondary MC who aids and helps the MC in various ways. Only because Luffy's crew got bigger, doesn't mean Zoro's (and Nami's) roles got replaced or changed. Again, it's the contrast. Oda reiterated yet again Zoro's position in the story.
There are countless modern stories trying their own kind of storytelling and there are differences indeed. Again, you have characters like Genos, Sasuke, Vegeta, Lucy, Megumi, Sherlock's sidekick Dr. Watson and so on - all of them are deuteragonists but their roles in the stories are still perceived differently.
Yes, true, so how is Zoro's position damaging them in the first place and how do you know that Oda clearly follows these?
Lol what? You are not even their writer, lol. You are just a self proclaimed expert at story and narrative telling. Sasuke not being a deuteragonist, LMFAOO.
Sasuke is the rival and deuteragonist.
Kaguya was the main antagonist.
Genos is deuteragonist who is Saitama's sidekick.
No?
Here are several examples of deuteragonists, each of them having their own role within the story:
Source.(From the quote)
Other source.
Source Nr. 3
So you see, Zoro can perfectly fit into the role as a sidekick and let me ask you ONE QUESTION: Did Zoro's role ever, EVER, change within this manga? Did someone replace his role?
Dude, your lack of reading comprehension is astonishing, seriously. Oda intented to make someone as the secondary MC to push the popularity of One Piece even further, then he thought about Ryuma who was the protagonist of his one shot and implemented a character - linked to Ryuma - into the story to make him the secondary MC.
He didn't scrape this idea, I don't even know why the fuck you believe this was the case lol.
In fact, Zoro had a huge appearance in chapter 2 and from then on, Oda introduced his role into the story even further. Heck, he was Luffy's FIRST CREWMATE. Then later on in the story, as if it isn't enough after Zoro sacrificing himself to protect his captain, Oda introduced the character closest to Roger, his best aid, his right hand man, the vice captain: Rayleigh.
Both Luffy and Zoro are related to Roger and Rayleigh; one who shaped the current world and its generation and the other one who was his best ally. That's why you had Zoro fighting Luffy alongside Kaido.
Are you kidding me? The purpose of a deuteragonist and the antagonist are two entirely different pair of shoes. Why are you even comparing Blackbeard with Zoro?????
You are not stating facts; you're just beating around the bush and try to fraud your way by portraying your headcanon as facts, lol.
Yes, because Nami was truly meant to be the deuteragonist at first.
She was both navigator and fighter but Oda scraped this idea and chose a character who was more likely to make One Piece very popular, which was Zoro.
Yes, it is after all.
Only more excuses. Now it's "B-but Zoro's backstory", "B-but character development", "B-but you're wrong!". It was never about Zoro receiving equal plot relevance as Luffy, it's about him being the deuteragonist who is, in fact, not that "irrelevant of a character" like the haters make it out to be. So his backstory was shit? We've got his entire lineage, that's more info than Luffy's family tree. Zoro's arc development? It could have been more but Oda went his way to portray Zoro as Ryuma's descendant, so take it as you like. When it comes to Luffy and Zoro comparisons, as I said, they are comparable: One is into meat, another one in sake, both are supernovas, in dire situations, both have their backs and do impactful things in arcs, Luffy takes on the boss, Zoro takes on the bosses' right hand man or number 2 in an arc. When Luffy or other crew mates are not thinking rationally, Zoro shuts them up. It happened in Water 7 and Post Wano as well. It even happened when Sanji went to WCI, Zoro reminded the crew that they're about to face two Yonko all at once.
I missed the point when Zoro has to be comparable to Luffy to make him the ideal deuteragonist, lol. Like, it's even a lost cause, nobody can rival Luffy's plot relevance in the story as he's basically portrayed like the Pirate Jesus...
Yes, because only Zoro calls out other crew members when they are about to do stupid shit. He has done this stuff not once, not twice but thrice.
When the whole existence of the crew was in shambles in Thrillerbark, Zoro was the one who took the lead in fighting Kuma and he was the one who sacrificed himself to protect his captain and the crew.
It's not, lmao.
Roger is the pivot of the entire story and narration and Rayleigh was his closest aid. Why don't we see Roger's Nami, Roger's Chopper, Roger's Brook or Roger's Sanji?
Yet, Oda introduced us Roger's Zoro who is Rayleigh. He is another legend, comparable to Roger and Whitebeard, has an epic epiteth called "Dark King" and he was Luffy's mentor.
Weak argument.
Zoro certainly didn't become a supernova merely because of a high bounty.
Btw, Zoro was also the second one receiving a bounty after Luffy, let it sink in...
Already explained in my other posts.
So? Where exactly is the issue then? Oda is obviously having his own set of definition when it comes to a deuteragonist and Zoro fulfills this role according to Oda. You're just rambling on about irrelevant things.
Yes, that's your understanding of narration - it's not Oda's, so how is it relevant again, you lil expert?
There is just one small difference... It's not ME who used the word "deuteragonist" in One Piece, it's ODA who proclaimed Zoro to be Nr. 2 when it comes to the MCs. How many times do I have to explain this to you? It's only Nami at best who has a comparable role to Zoro, the other strawhats are extentions to the deuteragonists but they are not equal to them. Zoro's role still didn't change and even after approximately +1060 chapters, he proved it yet again.
How so when Zoro is the only one who gets paired with the other right hand men and even with Rayleigh? Do you see Sanji, Franky, Robin, Jimbei or Usopp on that list?
Dude, just tell you run out of arguments.
Now you wanna sit on the horse by claiming it's relevant to look at the origin of this term whose form was used in ancient greek literature and play. It's all fine and all but again, your words are still irrelevant when we look at Oda's statement, lol.
I don't recall any of that - must be a parallel world.
Don't lie; you tried convincing people that G5 was the best thing ever happening in fiction - a true masterpiece when Oda foreshadowed everything perfectly and everything went perfectly fine looking at the narration.
LMAO
LMAO 2.0
The lack of self awareness is strong in this one.
Who says this? You? Oda obviously have a different definition to what a deuteragonist means than you and if he believes that the Nr. 2 is still the deuteragonist - even after +1100 chapters, why do you vehemently try to argue against it? It's illogical because a deuteragonist doesn't have to set the story in motion. That's the protagonist.
It doesn't and Oda clearly disagrees.
It's you who comes up with narration. Oda never stated Zoro is the most important character after Luffy in terms of narration when he is still fulfilling his role of supporting Luffy till the end. That's his role as a deuteragonist.
The initial definition was derived from the ancient greek but modern literature clearly have different meaning and definitions for them.
You are the only one projecting shit.
???
A deuteragonist is often a secondary MC who aids and helps the MC in various ways. Only because Luffy's crew got bigger, doesn't mean Zoro's (and Nami's) roles got replaced or changed. Again, it's the contrast. Oda reiterated yet again Zoro's position in the story.
There are countless modern stories trying their own kind of storytelling and there are differences indeed. Again, you have characters like Genos, Sasuke, Vegeta, Lucy, Megumi, Sherlock's sidekick Dr. Watson and so on - all of them are deuteragonists but their roles in the stories are still perceived differently.
Yes, true, so how is Zoro's position damaging them in the first place and how do you know that Oda clearly follows these?
Lol what? You are not even their writer, lol. You are just a self proclaimed expert at story and narrative telling. Sasuke not being a deuteragonist, LMFAOO.
Sasuke is the rival and deuteragonist.
Kaguya was the main antagonist.
Genos is deuteragonist who is Saitama's sidekick.
No?
Here are several examples of deuteragonists, each of them having their own role within the story:
Source.(From the quote)
Other source.
Source Nr. 3
So you see, Zoro can perfectly fit into the role as a sidekick and let me ask you ONE QUESTION: Did Zoro's role ever, EVER, change within this manga? Did someone replace his role?
Dude, your lack of reading comprehension is astonishing, seriously. Oda intented to make someone as the secondary MC to push the popularity of One Piece even further, then he thought about Ryuma who was the protagonist of his one shot and implemented a character - linked to Ryuma - into the story to make him the secondary MC.
He didn't scrape this idea, I don't even know why the fuck you believe this was the case lol.
In fact, Zoro had a huge appearance in chapter 2 and from then on, Oda introduced his role into the story even further. Heck, he was Luffy's FIRST CREWMATE. Then later on in the story, as if it isn't enough after Zoro sacrificing himself to protect his captain, Oda introduced the character closest to Roger, his best aid, his right hand man, the vice captain: Rayleigh.
Both Luffy and Zoro are related to Roger and Rayleigh; one who shaped the current world and its generation and the other one who was his best ally. That's why you had Zoro fighting Luffy alongside Kaido.
Are you kidding me? The purpose of a deuteragonist and the antagonist are two entirely different pair of shoes. Why are you even comparing Blackbeard with Zoro?????
You are not stating facts; you're just beating around the bush and try to fraud your way by portraying your headcanon as facts, lol.
Yes, because Nami was truly meant to be the deuteragonist at first.
She was both navigator and fighter but Oda scraped this idea and chose a character who was more likely to make One Piece very popular, which was Zoro.
Yes, it is after all.
Only more excuses. Now it's "B-but Zoro's backstory", "B-but character development", "B-but you're wrong!". It was never about Zoro receiving equal plot relevance as Luffy, it's about him being the deuteragonist who is, in fact, not that "irrelevant of a character" like the haters make it out to be. So his backstory was shit? We've got his entire lineage, that's more info than Luffy's family tree. Zoro's arc development? It could have been more but Oda went his way to portray Zoro as Ryuma's descendant, so take it as you like. When it comes to Luffy and Zoro comparisons, as I said, they are comparable: One is into meat, another one in sake, both are supernovas, in dire situations, both have their backs and do impactful things in arcs, Luffy takes on the boss, Zoro takes on the bosses' right hand man or number 2 in an arc. When Luffy or other crew mates are not thinking rationally, Zoro shuts them up. It happened in Water 7 and Post Wano as well. It even happened when Sanji went to WCI, Zoro reminded the crew that they're about to face two Yonko all at once.
I missed the point when Zoro has to be comparable to Luffy to make him the ideal deuteragonist, lol. Like, it's even a lost cause, nobody can rival Luffy's plot relevance in the story as he's basically portrayed like the Pirate Jesus...
Yes, because only Zoro calls out other crew members when they are about to do stupid shit. He has done this stuff not once, not twice but thrice.
When the whole existence of the crew was in shambles in Thrillerbark, Zoro was the one who took the lead in fighting Kuma and he was the one who sacrificed himself to protect his captain and the crew.
It's not, lmao.
Roger is the pivot of the entire story and narration and Rayleigh was his closest aid. Why don't we see Roger's Nami, Roger's Chopper, Roger's Brook or Roger's Sanji?
Yet, Oda introduced us Roger's Zoro who is Rayleigh. He is another legend, comparable to Roger and Whitebeard, has an epic epiteth called "Dark King" and he was Luffy's mentor.
Weak argument.
Zoro certainly didn't become a supernova merely because of a high bounty.
Btw, Zoro was also the second one receiving a bounty after Luffy, let it sink in...
Already explained in my other posts.
So? Where exactly is the issue then? Oda is obviously having his own set of definition when it comes to a deuteragonist and Zoro fulfills this role according to Oda. You're just rambling on about irrelevant things.
Yes, that's your understanding of narration - it's not Oda's, so how is it relevant again, you lil expert?
There is just one small difference... It's not ME who used the word "deuteragonist" in One Piece, it's ODA who proclaimed Zoro to be Nr. 2 when it comes to the MCs. How many times do I have to explain this to you? It's only Nami at best who has a comparable role to Zoro, the other strawhats are extentions to the deuteragonists but they are not equal to them. Zoro's role still didn't change and even after approximately +1060 chapters, he proved it yet again.
How so when Zoro is the only one who gets paired with the other right hand men and even with Rayleigh? Do you see Sanji, Franky, Robin, Jimbei or Usopp on that list?
Dude, just tell you run out of arguments.
Now you wanna sit on the horse by claiming it's relevant to look at the origin of this term whose form was used in ancient greek literature and play. It's all fine and all but again, your words are still irrelevant when we look at Oda's statement, lol.
@Logiko ZKKclowns are being hypocrites, they don't care about Oda saying the series ends with finding One Piece because they don't want Teach being final villain, then they use Oda saying Ryuma (who has different personality than Zolo) to make Zolo as 2nd most important character even though Zolo has no plot relevance to the story other than being a member of Luffy's crew, Zolo is no different than Sanji or Nami, or Usopp etc.
You are dumb af lmao, Zolo himself says he isn't good with 1 sword, and can't beat fodders like Nyaban brothers without 3 swords LMAO.
Also needed to steal Nerfed Killer's blade so he could use 3 blades to attack him;
While Ryuma is different, he only uses 1 sword style.
Zolo was separated from Luffy same as the crew. Oda doesn't separate Zolo from the SH crew, he doesn't make Zolo even vice-captain, Sanji and others don't give af about Zolo, and Zolo can't lead SH Pirates if Luffy didn't exist.
Zolo has plot relevance to story only because of Luffy.
Same as other Luffy's crew members, Zolo is not above them.
Ryuma wasn't a sidekick to someone in a pirate crew, he had his own Manga story, Zolo is a sidekick to Luffy, and he won't have his own Manga story.
What Zolo will do without Luffy?
You clowns are desperate
Emperors are the most important characters for the story.
Zolo is irrelevant without Luffy, Sanji won't follow him as leader and some of them wouldn't follow as well, maybe only Chopper follows him while calling him ''hopeless idiot'', Zolo can't even lead the SH Pirates if Luffy dies.
You are dumb af lmao, Zolo himself says he isn't good with 1 sword, and can't beat fodders like Nyaban brothers without 3 swords LMAO.
Also needed to steal Nerfed Killer's blade so he could use 3 blades to attack him;
While Ryuma is different, he only uses 1 sword style.
Zolo was separated from Luffy same as the crew. Oda doesn't separate Zolo from the SH crew, he doesn't make Zolo even vice-captain, Sanji and others don't give af about Zolo, and Zolo can't lead SH Pirates if Luffy didn't exist.
Zolo has plot relevance to story only because of Luffy.
Same as other Luffy's crew members, Zolo is not above them.
Ryuma wasn't a sidekick to someone in a pirate crew, he had his own Manga story, Zolo is a sidekick to Luffy, and he won't have his own Manga story.
What Zolo will do without Luffy?
You clowns are desperate
Emperors are the most important characters for the story.
Zolo is irrelevant without Luffy, Sanji won't follow him as leader and some of them wouldn't follow as well, maybe only Chopper follows him while calling him ''hopeless idiot'', Zolo can't even lead the SH Pirates if Luffy dies.
Nyaban brothers are not fodder. Theyre called the terrifying duo. East Blue Zoro literally said he’s not use to fighting with one sword.
meaning he’s not at his best, not that he isn’t good with one. Zoro didn’t need to steal killer weapon to beat him. It just means, at his best, he can beat them quickly.
Just because Zoro uses three swords doesn’t mean they're is no/to little resemblance between the two.
Now let’s see what they have in common:
Both have roots to wano
Both are one eyed swordsman
Both used Shusui
Both wanted to be the strongest
Both will turn their swords black
Both have a similar stature
Both can be stoic and goofy
Both slain a dragon with one sword
Both saved Wano
Both have similar techniques
Both look like they can be brothers
Both have two arms lol
Zoro isnt a sidekick dumbass. He was never treated as such. What you don’t understand, Luffy could NEVER be PK without Zoro and the shs, While Zoro could be the WSS without Luffy. See the difference… Everyone see Zoro as someone who should be Cpt. Confirming he has the potential to be a yonko if he wanted.
So another BS scenario??
At least you're trying, lol.
How is Oda showing that in the story? Also, like I said, the SBS's sole function is to give answers to unanswered question and to this degree, statements in the SBS are even more important than manga statements because like II said, it depends on how Oda shows it.
If you believe, I'm scared and run away from a furry, you're heavily mistaken.
Nope, that's a "Cope outta the inevitable situation that I'd have to admit to be wrong" experiment.
1.) Why should Oda be telling this? It would not benefit him doing two statements at the same time while contradicting his own ass but well, when it comes to current Oda and how much he fucked up Egghead Island, it's not impossible...
This is just a very unrealistic scenario in general and I usually know such equations in Boolean algebra when you check if the conditions are true or false.
No author would make use of such a confusing way to contradict their own statements, lmao.
2.) Like I said, SBS answer wins when it comes to source hierarchy because this directly comes from the author, there are no misunderstandings of rumors and extra storytelling style to give halfassed answers which aren't exactly known yet until the protagonist finds ouut the truth.
=> My conclusion: So if Zoro's plot relevance was neglected by Oda over the years and he just announced it NOW that Zoro is the deuteragonist in fact, it doesn't invalidate his statement, it just proves he didn't implement Zoro's role within the story properly as intented, not that Zoro does not contain this role.
At least you're trying, lol.
How is Oda showing that in the story? Also, like I said, the SBS's sole function is to give answers to unanswered question and to this degree, statements in the SBS are even more important than manga statements because like II said, it depends on how Oda shows it.
If you believe, I'm scared and run away from a furry, you're heavily mistaken.
Nope, that's a "Cope outta the inevitable situation that I'd have to admit to be wrong" experiment.
1.) Why should Oda be telling this? It would not benefit him doing two statements at the same time while contradicting his own ass but well, when it comes to current Oda and how much he fucked up Egghead Island, it's not impossible...
This is just a very unrealistic scenario in general and I usually know such equations in Boolean algebra when you check if the conditions are true or false.
No author would make use of such a confusing way to contradict their own statements, lmao.
2.) Like I said, SBS answer wins when it comes to source hierarchy because this directly comes from the author, there are no misunderstandings of rumors and extra storytelling style to give halfassed answers which aren't exactly known yet until the protagonist finds ouut the truth.
=> My conclusion: So if Zoro's plot relevance was neglected by Oda over the years and he just announced it NOW that Zoro is the deuteragonist in fact, it doesn't invalidate his statement, it just proves he didn't implement Zoro's role within the story properly as intented, not that Zoro does not contain this role.
im sorry but dumbest thing that’s been said so far is Teach being more like Ryuma than Zoro.
Nyaban brothers are not fodder. Theyre called the terrifying duo. East Blue Zoro literally said he’s not use to fighting with one sword. meaning he’s not at his best, not that he isn’t good with one.
Zoro didn’t need to steal killer weapon to beat him. It just means, at his best, he can beat them quickly.
Just because Zoro uses three swords doesn’t mean they're is no/to little resemblance between the two.
Now let’s see what they have in common:
Both have roots to wano
Both are one eyed swordsman
Both used Shusui
Both wanted to be the strongest
Both will turn their swords black
Both have a similar stature
Both can be stoic and goofy
Both slain a dragon with one sword
Both saved Wano
Both have similar techniques
Both look like they can be brothers
Both have two arms lol
Zoro isnt a sidekick dumbass. He was never treated as such. What you don’t understand, Luffy could NEVER be PK without Zoro and the shs, While Zoro could be the WSS without Luffy. See the difference… Everyone see Zoro as someone who should be Cpt. Confirming he has the potential to be a yonko if he wanted.
Nyaban brothers are not fodder. Theyre called the terrifying duo. East Blue Zoro literally said he’s not use to fighting with one sword.
meaning he’s not at his best, not that he isn’t good with one.Zoro didn’t need to steal killer weapon to beat him. It just means, at his best, he can beat them quickly.
Just because Zoro uses three swords doesn’t mean they're is no/to little resemblance between the two.
Now let’s see what they have in common:
Both have roots to wano
Both are one eyed swordsman
Both used Shusui
Both wanted to be the strongest
Both will turn their swords black
Both have a similar stature
Both can be stoic and goofy
Both slain a dragon with one sword
Both saved Wano
Both have similar techniques
Both look like they can be brothers
Both have two arms lol
Zoro isnt a sidekick dumbass. He was never treated as such. What you don’t understand, Luffy could NEVER be PK without Zoro and the shs, While Zoro could be the WSS without Luffy. See the difference… Everyone see Zoro as someone who should be Cpt. Confirming he has the potential to be a yonko if he wanted.
Zolo become 1 eyed after TS, Oda is talking about the beginning of the story retard.
Ryuma is no underling to a pirate, he wouldn't be a pirate hunter as well.
Zolo didn't save Wano, it was Luffy you clown LMAO. That alone shows the difference, Ryuma saved Wano but Zolo couldn't.
Zolo is nothing without Luffy.
Luffy can still be PK without Zolo, he would find different allies and underlings if not Zolo.
Zolo is stoic, Ryuma is goofy,
You retard crying about this won't change they are different personalities with different sword styles. Zolo himself says he is a sidekick by accepting Luffy as his captain you clown.
Zolo can't lead SH Pirates, no one gives af about him even SH Pirates wouldn't follow him. He is not more important than other Luffy sidekicks.
When I made the original Crying 6, Erkek instantly fired up Paint to make his own version with people who troubled him the most at that time. He was particularly shaken by the fact that I selected him to be thickhead Ulti... Cried to mods for nothing, good times.
Also your lie about ''instantly'' got exposed, it was an old edit.
