Theory The Suke Suke no mi is actually the Hito Hito no mi: God of Death

[Monkey D Theories]

In Greek Mythology, Hades, God of Death, had a cap that allowed him to become invisible. I believe that this was the inspiration for Shiryu’s DF as well as its true nature.


I think that similar to Luffy’s Nika fruit, Shiryu also has a mythical zoan God fruit whose name was changed in order to hide its true nature.


Whereas Luffy is the Sun God, I believe that Shiryu has the powers of the God of Death and the Underworld. I believe that this is intended to parallel Zoro and his King of Hell fighting style. Its also completely fitting for Shiryu to have this DF as he was the head jailer in Impel Down, a prison based off of hell in Dante’s inferno.


I think that similar to Luffy, the Suke Suke no mi’s true power only unveils itself once its awakened. I think this is something Shiryu will achieve. With a mythical zoan awakening, all of Shiryu’s physical stats will be boosted, making him a top tier swordsman. In addition, I believe awakening will significantly enhance Shiryu’s invisibility powers, as the Nika fruit awakening did to Luffy’s rubber abilities. This will have the effect of making him completely undetectable to normal CoO, forcing Zoro to develop advanced observation haki.


Overall, I believe that Zoro vs Shiryu will be the fight that determines who is the true King of Hell. In defeating Shiryu, Zoro will defeat the God of Death and become the true King of Hell.

 

[HA001]

 

[comrade]

There was a specific reason the true power of Luffy's fruit was hidden from the world, because it was the power of the WG's key antagonist. And it was eaten by none other than the current protagonist. People shouldn't assume Oda will just keep repeating this stuff with other DFs he feeds to randoms like a firstmate.

 

[Chrono]

There was a specific reason the true power of Luffy's fruit was hidden from the world, because it was the power of the WG's key antagonist. And it was eaten by none other than the current protagonist. People shouldn't assume Oda will just keep repeating this stuff with other DFs he feats to randoms like a firstmate.

You think Loda cares. He repeated G5, he'd repeat this too because he's a uncreative hack

 

[Redboy776]

OP see very far into the futur unlike whiryu Haters who are too blind to see even a nano second ahead and they cant read too.

 

[Foul Legacy]

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[Monkey D Theories]

There was a specific reason the true power of Luffy's fruit was hidden from the world, because it was the power of the WG's key antagonist. And it was eaten by none other than the current protagonist. People shouldn't assume Oda will just keep repeating this stuff with other DFs he feats to randoms like a firstmate.

Blackbeard is a DF expert.

Why would he let one of his strongest subordinates eat a fruit that offered no other benefits but invisibility?

Look at all the fruits we have seen in this series, is the invisibility fruit really that great?

Imo Teach would have only been okay with Shiryu taking that fruit if it was actually strong. Like Shiryu said.

Hence imo it must do more than simple invisibility. Even if invisibility isn’t that bad of a power, it’s still not something that can carry Teach’s rhm.

 

[SkySanji]

Jika is more plausible than this and even that's retarded.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

A mythic zoan is completely in line with what you’d expect Teach’s right hand to get.

You’re telling me that Devon and Doc Q’s horse could get mythic zoans but Shiryu just gets a fruit little better than Sanji’s germa tech?

 

[comrade]

Blackbeard is a DF expert.

Why would he let one of his strongest subordinates eat a fruit that offered no other benefits but invisibility?

Look at all the fruits we have seen in this series, is the invisibility fruit really that great?

Imo Teach would have only been okay with Shiryu taking that fruit if it was actually strong. Like Shiryu said.

Hence imo it must do more than simple invisibility. Even if invisibility isn’t that bad of a power, it’s still not something that can carry Teach’s rhm.

Invisibility is, as Shiryu has correctly stated, a useful ability. Unless you have high level of CoO like Fujitora, fighting an invisible opponent would be pretty tricky. Even without invisibility, CoO cannot always effectively keep up and invisibility would make it harder. And invisibility is an ability fitting someone like Shiryu, who is a devious thug. And I'm sure once awakened, it will offer him additional benefits like harder to track. A fitting opponent for Zoro, who will be a powerful swordsman and forcing Zoro to hone his CoO.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

The only fruit that’s name has been changed is nika because it was Joyboys. Shiryus fruit is just invisibility.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Invisibility is, as Shiryu has correctly stated, a useful ability. Unless you have high level of CoO like Fujitora, fighting an invisible opponent would be pretty tricky. Even without invisibility, CoO cannot always effectively keep up and invisibility would make it harder. And invisibility is an ability fitting someone like Shiryu, who is a devious thug. And I'm sure once awakened, it will offer him additional benefits like harder to track. A fitting opponent for Zoro, who will be a powerful swordsman and forcing Zoro to hone his CoO.

Not saying it is a bad ability

But it’s undeniable that there are many fruits that are much more powerful and would be better suited for teach’s right hand.

invisibility offers no offensive abilities and gets countered by CoO.

Compare that to the mera mera no mi or Marco’s fruit.

For Shiryu to pick this random ass paramecia from a pre skip villain Sanji fodderized, there just has to be more to this fruit than meets the eye.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

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There's a reason it could pierce Garp's CoA like it was paper

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Not saying it is a bad ability

But it’s undeniable that there are many fruits that are much more powerful and would be better suited for teach’s right hand.

invisibility offers no offensive abilities and gets countered by CoO.

Compare that to the mera mera no mi or Marco’s fruit.

For Shiryu to pick this random ass paramecia from a pre skip villain Sanji fodderized, there just has to be more to this fruit than meets the eye.

Only high level CoO can counter invisibility, for a swordsman who typically just need one good slice to end a fight it’s an ideal ability.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

The only fruit that’s name has been changed is nika because it was Joyboys. Shiryus fruit is just invisibility.

The gomu gomu no mi having a secret name is proof that just because you are a DF, doesn’t necessarily mean you know that fruit’s true name.

Maybe the invisibility fruit didn’t have its name changed by the WG. Maybe Absalom simply didn’t know what the fruit’s real name was. But given how Teach read the DF book, he might actually know it’s true name.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

The gomu gomu no mi having a secret name is proof that just because you are a DF, doesn’t necessarily mean you know that fruit’s true name.

Maybe the invisibility fruit didn’t have its name changed by the WG. Maybe Absalom simply didn’t know what the fruit’s real name was. But given how Teach read the DF book, he might actually know its true name.

The Suke Suke no Mi is in the DF Encyclopedia. The Gomu Gomu no Mi isn’t.

Pretty clear difference.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Only high level CoO can counter invisibility, for a swordsman who typically just need one good slice to end a fight it’s an ideal ability.

Sanji was able to deal with it without CoO.

Sure it’s not a useless power. It did make Shiryu stronger.

But it’s not broken. It can easily be countered. It’s not comparable to King’s lunarian powers or Marco’s regen.

It’s a mid tier paramecia, which is why it makes no sense for Teach to give this power to Shiryu, as opposed to someone like Krieg or his other weaker commanders.
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The Suke Suke no Mi is in the DF Encyclopedia. The Gomu Gomu no Mi isn’t.

Pretty clear difference.

Maybe Sanji’s encyclopedia was wrong

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Sanji was able to deal with it without CoO.

Sure it’s not a useless power. It did make Shiryu stronger.

But it’s not broken. It can easily be countered. It’s not comparable to King’s lunarian powers or Marco’s regen.

It’s a mid tier paramecia, which is why it makes no sense for Teach to give this power to Shiryu, as opposed to someone like Krieg or his other weaker commanders.

Sanji also is a smart fighter and regularly outsmarts opponents.

It can’t easily be countered. It’s a great paramecia for a powerful and lethal swordsman and even allowed Shiryu to heavily wound someone as powerful as Garp.

And seeing how Judge shared knowledge with Vegapunk, it’s likely the same encyclopedia

 

[NexusLord]

I agree that there is definitely something more to it.

Absalom showcased what someone who is creative can do with it by hiding cannons to make it seem like he was creating a force with his Devil Fruit power.

Shiryu won't use the same tactic. He will end up using something far more devastating and practical. Something cohesive to the theme. It's just challenging to determine what that is yet.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I agree that there is definitely something more to it.

Absalom showcased what someone who is creative can do with it by hiding cannons to make it seem like he was creating a force with his Devil Fruit power.

Shiryu won't use the same tactic. He will end up using something far more devastating and practical. Something cohesive to the theme. It's just challenging to determine what that is yet.

Disarm Zoro and make them invisible so he can’t find them