[FNZ] Salem of Lies Return of the Throne (Unofficial)

[AL sama]

OK. I think we cleared it up now.


Al, any particular reason for why you basically claimed your role?

read back you'll see it

are you even reading tho??

I mean how could miss that if you're reading??

 

[Finalbeta]

I didn't know that. I checked the wiki now and I think you are right. Can anyone confirm that though? Maybe he didn't want to attract attention to himself that way. Maybe you shouldn't have said this Flowa. Or maybe he's faking it.

She has been flaunting a scummy behaviour the whole game so I'm not surprised.

No need to attire unnecessary attention when my claim wasn't needed at all during that frame.

I limited myself to explain my action so that my advent could hold more value.

Unseen knowing that I'm a BD roleblocker and not a neutral roleblocker could put me in danger.

 

[Ena]

if there is no other roleblocker claim besides finalbeta i'm inclined to believe that someone tried to kill flower
BUT fb, al sama and melontonin wouldn't benefit from claiming they visited flower if they were scum

 

[AL sama]

She has been flaunting a scummy behaviour the whole game so I'm not surprised.

No need to attire unnecessary attention when my claim wasn't needed at all during that frame.

I limited myself to explain my action so that my advent could hold more value.

Unseen knowing that I'm a BD roleblocker and not a neutral roleblocker could put me in danger.

she can't be scum so stop beta

 

[Ena]

let's assume this is unseen game, because of the 2 kills attempts and convert
flower was jailed
if she was lying, the prince or the person who was jailed in n1 would have counterclaimed her

she can't be the mastermind, because someone was converted (A Blue Dragon has fallen traitor and has been converted to evil! )
she can't be the assassin or the neutral killer, because there was a sucessful kill and a kill attempt

what is your opinion about this @Finalbeta

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

he would look like the killer
if he didnt.

Yeah I saw it now.

read back you'll see it

are you even reading tho??

I mean how could miss that if you're reading??

I am. I genuinely missed it. I went through your post history now and found it on page 61.

She has been flaunting a scummy behaviour the whole game so I'm not surprised.

No need to attire unnecessary attention when my claim wasn't needed at all during that frame.

I limited myself to explain my action so that my advent could hold more value.

Unseen knowing that I'm a BD roleblocker and not a neutral roleblocker could put me in danger.

Based on the mafia being able to kill and convert and another kill failing Flowa cannot be scum of any kind. And since all abilities used on her failed, she was jailed as she said.

 

[AL sama]

what is your opinion about this @Finalbeta

I wouldn't expect much of an answer tbh

 

[Melontonin]

if there is no other roleblocker claim besides finalbeta i'm inclined to believe that someone tried to kill flower
BUT fb, al sama and melontonin wouldn't benefit from claiming they visited flower if they were scum

Wait, can you explain why you are inclined to believe someone tried to kill flower?

 

[AL sama]

Wait, can you explain why you are inclined to believe someone tried to kill flower?

its in the write up

 

[Finalbeta]

what is your opinion about this @Finalbeta

She could be the converted Unseen unless I'm missing something here.

She could have been neutral during D1 and converted. She shouldn't be 100% confirmed IIRC.

Only off chance should be that jailed players cannot happen to be converted but I have got no insight upon this matter.

 

[Melontonin]

its in the write up

Do you mean the fact that there was an unsuccessful kill? Bc that's what I'm wondering, maybe the killing role went on someone who is invincible at night

 

[Ena]

Wait, can you explain why you are inclined to believe someone tried to kill flower?

because there was a failed kill attempt
ther reasons for this could be (again, assuming this is unseen game)
assassin targetting the neutral killer or the neutral killer targetting the cult leader - unlikely
assassin or neutral killer got roleblocked - likely
someone tries to kill a protected target (like flower who was jailed) - likely (al sama is town protective claim and he visited flower, even though I didn't trust him yesterday, this claim seems solid, that makes the chance of someone else have been attacked and protected lower)
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She could be the converted Unseen unless I'm missing something here.

She could have been neutral during D1 and converted. She shouldn't be 100% confirmed IIRC.

Only off chance should be that jailed players cannot happen to be converted but I have got no insight upon this matter.

neutral roles can't be converted


i'll check the neutral killing roles in the wiki

 

[Tobra]

I wanna hear from @Cobra
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@Cobra.

what do yo want to hear?

 

[AL sama]

Do you mean the fact that there was an unsuccessful kill? Bc that's what I'm wondering, maybe the killing role went on someone who is invincible at night

yes and that's also possible

however flower can't be scum

 

[Ena]

and i think it's impossible for jailed players to be converted

 

[AL sama]

what do yo want to hear?

your thoughts
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and i think it's impossible for jailed players to be converted

jailing is a sort of protect so yes correct

 

[Tobra]

your thoughts

neutral watcher you lanji flower are town

kiwiw and beta are a little suspicious


nothing about the rest

 

[Ena]

there is only 2 possible NK roles in this game: the sorcerer and the reaper
the possessor can't possibly be implemented in this forum, because, well, he wouldn't be able to possess anyone

the sorcerer is an arsonist mixed with a serial killer
the reaper is a serial killer who reaps the souls of their targets to get power upgrades

 

[AL sama]

neutral watcher you lanji flower are town

kiwiw and beta are a little suspicious


nothing about the rest

bro you don't feel like playing??

 

[Ena]

neutral watcher you lanji flower are town

kiwiw and beta are a little suspicious


nothing about the rest

why do you have town read on NW?