Le Fishe Thread Reality check for otakus- successful combat athletes in real life are exactly like Eustass Kid, whereas the losers are like Shanks
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That doesn't mean he would give up his dream, I'm just saying he will give up the chains of his ego caused by feeling like he needs to make up for his past suffering, and become free.
Edit: Because since his ego is something he relies on due to weakness of character, once he is strong enough and above most in strength, he will not feel looked down on by anyone anymore, and will be able to recognise the ego as a crutch, and let go of it, becoming free.
Edit: Because since his ego is something he relies on due to weakness of character, once he is strong enough and above most in strength, he will not feel looked down on by anyone anymore, and will be able to recognise the ego as a crutch, and let go of it, becoming free.
We'll see what happens, his dream and goals can change upon him finding more information, at the end of the day, pirate king is a means to an end for Luffy and Law, and it may be so for Kidd too, pirate king may even be incompatible with his dream, I believe he will reach his dream, but not the position of pirate king,
Edit: Luffy would also definetly give up the fight for pirate king if it was incompatible with, or didn't matter to, his dream, and if he knew that,,
Edit: Luffy would also definetly give up the fight for pirate king if it was incompatible with, or didn't matter to, his dream, and if he knew that,,
You're right, most people who succeed in real life, especially in the example you used, are usually arrogant and despicable. But this is a fantasy manga, which tries to make a good portrayal of nice people (not just by making them look right, but also by making them strong leaders or even world changing characters). This is pretty obvious, since pirates in real life are just crooks (thieves, pillagers, kidnappers, etc.)... no wonder Kid met his end at the hands of a "Peace Main" (see below).
Also it's pretty accurate and funny that all of the people at the top of the world, wanting to be pirate king, don't care about pirate king at all except for it being a means to their actual dreams, they don't care at all about just being above because a title says so, and about the pride aspect of it.
I don't think Kidd needs to change anything as a character.
Him being cocky and being reckless defines him as a pirate. That's what drives him. He has ambition and he's always ready to move forward even if it means death - that's how his character is.
He doesn't need to change and become more like Luffy or law - that would be boring.
Problem is oda dropped the ball with WG. They were supposed to rival Luffy but rather actually giving any meaning to this idea, oda made all WG (bar Zoro for obvious reasons and BB) just some pirates who needs Luffy as Mesiah to save them.
Him being cocky and being reckless defines him as a pirate. That's what drives him. He has ambition and he's always ready to move forward even if it means death - that's how his character is.
He doesn't need to change and become more like Luffy or law - that would be boring.
Problem is oda dropped the ball with WG. They were supposed to rival Luffy but rather actually giving any meaning to this idea, oda made all WG (bar Zoro for obvious reasons and BB) just some pirates who needs Luffy as Mesiah to save them.
Mohammed Ali and Mike Tyson
Both very hard working, determined, ambitious. Respected and admired by the people. But they still had confidence and ego. The believed they were the best. I admire when people are able to confidently say that they will win beforehand, knowing the consequences of the backlash they would get if they lose. Likewise, i dont like or respect people that hate on others for trying and losing
Both very hard working, determined, ambitious. Respected and admired by the people. But they still had confidence and ego. The believed they were the best. I admire when people are able to confidently say that they will win beforehand, knowing the consequences of the backlash they would get if they lose. Likewise, i dont like or respect people that hate on others for trying and losing
I think in a realistic story, he would change for the better once he got at the top, unless his goal was to dominate others, that's how ego works, but either way Kidd just cares about his dream, which may just be something he can reach by becoming the pirate king, and may not even necessitate it, maybe making Kidd not care about pirate king anymore.
Personally I think Kidd's dream, which is what he actually cares about, requires Nika and Luffy as pirate king, so there isn't any problem, although Kidd will definetly be close in strength.
I think you may mistake arrogance for ambition.
Edit: I agree with your sentiment, but I think it is misplaced.
Personally I think Kidd's dream, which is what he actually cares about, requires Nika and Luffy as pirate king, so there isn't any problem, although Kidd will definetly be close in strength.
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I think you may mistake arrogance for ambition.
Edit: I agree with your sentiment, but I think it is misplaced.
Muhammad Ali… the dude who famously said “I don’t fight for me but for my brothers and sisters who are sleeping on concrete, for the Black Americans who can’t eat; black people who don’t have a future.”
Literally the exact opposite of Kid who only does shit for himself and more akin to Luffy who fights for others and to give people hope.
Jesus Christ…
Literally the exact opposite of Kid who only does shit for himself and more akin to Luffy who fights for others and to give people hope.
Jesus Christ…
