One Piece Manga Spoilers - Chapter 957

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stealthblack

always saw that as someone would have to be a better swordsman than shanks was to give mihawk the challenge he is looking for. if that is how you see it, that would have implications on how you gage zoro eos then.
The translator did imply he wants an opponent stonger than shanks, it didnt imply shanks was greater than he is .
when it comes to info, manga counts , everything else take with a grain of salt. because manga is only oda, everything else other people provide the info, not just oda.

same way with movie stampede. because other people work on the movie, you end up with 19 years old bullet= prime rayleigh= Young crocodile < alabasta luffy

like how the editor implied shanks has biggest bounty among all yonkous.
 
When the dependability of the VCs drops, my reliance on them as sources will too. Shanks' 12 years being a Yonkou vs 6 years changes a lot. Namely, the type of duels that Shanks and Mihawk had that Whitebeard would've referred to as legendary.

It doesn't.

You can't say he grow but the other not.
Yonkous don't go island to island and fight personally.

To this day Mihawk is the WSS and Shanks no.

Both will be surpassed by Luffy and Zoro.
 
D: About the Whitebeard Pirates, if there are pirates from the "Whitebeard ally groups", is there a possibility of one of them becoming a commander of the real Whitebeard Pirates itself? Or are the commanders all from the real Whitebeard Pirates from the beginning? P.N. amanuts

O: Ok, I'll explain a little about the Whitebeard Pirates. First, captain Whitebeard and the 16 commanders. All 16 commanders, despite numbers and ages have the same rank. All the same. Whitebeard Pirates are just split in 16 groups and the division number does not indicate strength. The 43 ally pirate ships are not any part of the Whitebeard Pirates and are usually all just scattered everywhere living their own little lives. Yet they are loyal to Whitebeard, and help him in desperate times. They are like that. In Ace's case, the Spade Pirates were destroyed, and all the members joined the Whitebeard Pirates, so he was able to become a commander.

SBS volume 59. Oden being WB's #2 division commander neither hypes Marco nor dehypes Oden.
But Marco has a special standing. He was the Right hand men of Whitebeard. After his death Marco took over, it doesn't make sense that someone on the crew is stronger but Marco gets to keep his standing
 
I'm starting to think that Roger wasn't so strong himself, but very lucky, a good leader and charismatic (that's why his op crew), smart and blessed with his CoC and VoAT
 
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Inspector_Mu

So what you saying is you know Mihawk's full capability.

- He was never injured not once during marineford, unlike admirals.
- He produced a non-haki casual attack that had incredible range range and required a person using a diamond devil fruit to stop it.
- He casually cut a iceberg in half with a non-haki and non-named attack that was created by an admiral using a named attack.
- He fought Whitebeard's strongest swordsmen who was serious about the whole situation and trying save his friend. Best swordsman wasn't even able to push Mihawk to become serious.
Lemme also state :

Non haki slash lol
Who told you is non haki??
You dont need named attacks to be powerful: WB did it.

Kizaru Hancock Doffy also came out wij no bruises
Are they above shanks? Akainu? Are they equal to them?

He is trash
How can you expect him to be damaged when he fought smiling Vista and Crocodile, Daz luffy buggy?

Sorry he is trash
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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It doesn't.

You can't say he grow but the other not.

To this day Mihawk is the WSS and Shanks no.

Both will be surpassed by Luffy and Zoro.
Let's take a look at what happened between both.

In the 12 years since Shanks lost his arm he traveled the Grandline, clashed with the other Yonkou and became one. Mihawk, as a Shichibukai, remained in Paradise and seemingly did nothing.

Why would Mihawk passively get as strong as Shanks, who is competing with top tiers?
 
Luffy's goal is to surpass Shanks. It's part of their promise. Luffy isn't chasing Roger. As a matter of fact, Luffy has never once stated anything about being like Roger. Whenever Luffy and Roger are tied together, it's always by people on the outside. Never by Luffy himself.

Yes, his goal is to surpass Shanks. His personal goal is not Roger, it's Shanks. Luffy has never wanted to be Roger. He just wants to be the freest man on the sea, and the King of the Pirates is the ultimate form of that.

Shanks not being the Pirate King has no relevance.

You're right, there is a difference between the two. The difference is that Shanks is the embodiment of Luffy's goal and Mihawk is the embodiment of Zoro's. That says enough right there. Never made any sense for Mihawk to be greater than Shanks given Shanks' importance and Luffy's own greatness over Zoro. Going "beyond Shanks level and achievements" doesn't mean anything in relation to Mihawk's prowess.
huh
no sir
pirate king = roger
shanks not being the pirate king has alot of relevance since luffy screams this at every single intro he ever gets the same way zoro tells pica he will be the best swordsman in the world.
wss = mihawk
In fact garp refers to luffy as still a fledgling after wci , kaido doesnt see much either while shanks believes they might need to meet very soon. he's a lot closer to shanks now than he is to his ultimate goal.
 
Let's take a look at what happened between both.

In the 12 years since Shanks lost his arm he traveled the Grandline, clashed with the other Yonkou and became one. Mihawk, as a Shichibukai, remained in Paradise and seemingly did nothing.

Why would Mihawk passively get as strong as Shanks, who is competing with top tiers?
training:kayneshrug:
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Zoro became Shanks?
i think he will be Oden eos a solid YC2
way better than a solid yc5 :pepelit:
nah zoro will be yonko level with chopper and sanji yc3:finally:
 
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Inspector_Mu

But Marco has a special standing. He was the Right hand men of Whitebeard. After his death Marco took over, it doesn't make sense that someone on the crew is stronger but Marco gets to keep his standing
Because Oden left WB crew long time ago
Ace was also dead
We know Ace was next captain!

Marco wasnt strong back then... his ankle back then isnt heard
While Oden name is heard and know for being strong all over NW.
Facts.

You are comparing current Marco to Oden back then.
Let's compare Dead Oden to current Marco not even 20+ years ago Marco who wasnt even strong as now . He was a mere supernova level at best.
If Oden was alive... he will be solid mid top tier by now .

Even if you compare current marc to Oden
Oden still has better stats feats hyep
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I jusy want her to use her fruit more in general
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If lets say kata and king had constant battles itd also likely be pretty legendary

Also neither shanks or mihawk were in their prime 15+ years ago
Just like how big mom and kaido weren't when they were with rocks
He wont understand this
 
when it comes to info, manga counts , everything else take with a grain of salt. because manga is only oda, everything else other people provide the info, not just oda.

same way with movie stampede. because other people work on the movie, you end up with 19 years old bullet= prime rayleigh= Young crocodile < alabasta luffy

like how the editor implied shanks has biggest bounty among all yonkous.
vivrecards are a lot different from movies.
It had a question mark and was mistranslated
its a lot different from being fed the information
The vc's so far have been pretty accurate . Take them as lightly as you want. I still see them as a good source of info.

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