Current Events Kuzan Is A Contender For One Piece - Why Oda Doesn’t Care About Swordsmen

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Headcanons, Garp was rag dolling Aokiji
Multiple characters, including Gear 3 WCI Luffy and Kidd, were rag dolling Kaido. What does “rag dolling” even mean in your peabrain lmfao…it’s clear Garp was doing no more damage to fruitless emotionally compromised Kuzan than Kuzan did back to him.

dealing with army of fodders and Teach commanders and protecting Coby and his friends .
Explain to me how these guys are relevant in a contest of Top Tiers lmfao:


Oh wait, I forgot you’re a Mihawk fan and you think Vista level trash is relevant to real top tiers since Mihawk couldn’t beat Vista lmfao.

Thanks for shit-ryu's stab, Finally Aokiji got some crumbs an equal clash against a no named hardened punch from an Already Weakened Old Garp against a punch coated in his DF .
This is how Aokiji reacted to a stab from the far superior Whitebeard:


Just give up moron lmfao. Garp getting stabbed by Shiryu is utterly disgraceful for an Admiral.

On the other hand, getting stabbed by Shiryu would be a pretty good feat for Pissjulo.

Headcanons, He used his DF and matched an old weakened Garp's no named hardened punch .
No, it is literally a manga fact that Aokiji reached prime Garp’s level without his Devil fruit lmfao
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
You're running away with a half truth again.
Fruitless Aokiji does not punch as hard as Prime Garp, what Battleship Bags established is that no DF, no Haki Aokiji can punch as hard as no Haki Prime Garp.
Is that not what I just said? Lol

Unless you think Old Garp punches as hard as prime Garp, it is undeniable that prime Aokiji would beat old Garp into the ground with his fists alone.
 
These are your contenders for the Raftel War:


This is what Oda envisioned from the start of the manga. You have Luffy, Saint Pranks, Buggy, and Blackbeard, the four most important living pirates,

You have the current Marines represented by Akainu, the future of the Marines represented by Koby, the Revolutionaries represented by Dragon and Sabo, the Celestial Dragons represented by Imu and Garling, and whoever tf the silhouette is supposed to be.

But why is Kuzan here? We know that Kuzan has his own justice and his own ambitions:


We also know that Kuzan wants to live his own way:


And we know that Kuzan has some kind of greater goal that he is pursuing. This just goes to show how important Kuzan is in Oda’s mind, and how Kuzan isn’t just some Yonko commander.

You know which Yonko commander isn’t present in this panel? That would of course be Buggy the Clown’s lackey Dracule Mihawk:


So what’s hilarious is when Zoro fans argue that Mihawk, and far more hilariously, Shiryu are somehow more important to the plot of this manga than Kuzan is.

Sword fans are trapped in this hallucination that Oda cares more about fucking sword lore than he cares about the search for One Piece, the mysteries of the world, and the 900 year war.

Fujitora went all of Dressrosa with a supreme grade Greatsword, but in Oda’s mind this was not relevant information to the actual plot of the manga.

Oda revealed Zolo’s lineage in an SBS. Didn’t give enough of a shit about who Zolo is or where he came from other than to tease that Zolo was a descendent of Ryuma.

And now we’ve reached the EOS where Oda is more excited to tease Saint Pranks’ unnamed brother than he is to tease Mihawk’s participation in the final war. So this begs the question:

Legit, what fucking manga are sword clowns reading? Zolo is a side character who has, on two occasions, completely disappeared from this manga for years at a time. Sword lore is irrelevant, that shit is SBS material. Zolo’s lineage? Who cares. Not Oda.

There are clowns who actually think Zolo is the deuteragonist. The fucking secondary main character. Name me a single series where a fucking deuteragonist disappears for literal fucking years.

We know Luffy’s father and grandfather because they are major main series characters. Meanwhile if not for a deluded Zolo fan flailing in an SBS, Oda wouldn’t have revealed any members of Zolo’s family outside of Ryuma a thousand years ago.

It’s time for Mihawk fans to give up hope. Zolo is a side quest, no more important than any other straw hat and their dream.

And look, the Admirals are side characters too. There’s no delusions from Admiral fans on their importance. You don’t have Admiral stans arguing that Koby or Smoker are deuteragonists lmfao. They fill a particular roll in the story and that’s it. Just like Zolo. He fills a side roll and that’s it.

Mihawk was never a contender for One Piece and never will be. He is a side quest with a side quest’s level of importance and relevance, just like Zolo and his entire story.

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Aokiji is probably there because Red Dog is there also. They are still Yin and Yang even though Red Dog won the battle (how he won we don't know if he cheated or not), the Punk Hazard was still %50 ice and %50 magma at the end of their final clash.

Oda used Aokiji from BB pirates to counter Garp, Marine vs Ex-Marine story, even when Shiryu saved the day, that was Aokiji's story to face with Marines.

Zolo, Shiryu, and Mihawk has no business to be in that last page since they don't counter anyone from Emperors, Revolutionary, Celestials, and Fleet Admiral.

Aokiji will be the counterpart of Marines in the new world order when BB Pirates take over the World.
 
Fellas are going all out for some crumbs lmao , getting an equal clash against an already weakened Garp's no named hardened punch 😂 the same hardened punch from an already stronger version Prime Garp failed against a 500 million Pirate that he needed to train more against Mountains to deal with it 😭

Aside this , Since the start of the fight ; Old Garp was rag dolling Aokiji each time and dealt with an army of Fodders and Teach commanders which further kept his stamina weakening all of that while also protecting Coby and others and trying his hardest to keep his eyes on them , which made Fodders question how crazy this old man is and they didn't believe they have a chance even with aokiji fighting right there and they didn't believe he got weakened with Aokiji's so called hits😂


Until the stab came which weakened Garp hard , then Aokiji finally got that equal clash against an already weakened Old Garp's no named hardened punch ; and the fight ended after he blitzed the fuck outta him and cracked Pizzaru's skull and notices how Admirals fans keep the excuse of Aokiji having a soft heart towards Garp while the fella didn't even use a single Galaxy attack on him 😂:shame:
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Fellas are going all out for some crumbs lmao , getting an equal clash against an already weakened Garp's no named hardened punch 😂 the same hardened punch from an already stronger version Prime Garp failed against a 500 million Pirate that he needed to train more against Mountains to deal with it 😭

Aside this , Since the start of the fight ; Old Garp was rag dolling Aokiji each time and dealt with an army of Fodders and Teach commanders which further kept his stamina weakening all of that while also protecting Coby and others and trying his hardest to keep his eyes on them , which made Fodders question how crazy this old man is and they didn't believe they have a chance even with aokiji fighting right there and they didn't believe he got weakened with Aokiji's so called hits😂


Until the stab came which weakened Garp hard , then Aokiji finally got that equal clash against an already weakened Old Garp's no named hardened punch ; and the fight ended after he blitzed the fuck outta him and cracked Pizzaru's skull and notices how Admirals fans keep the excuse of Aokiji having a soft heart towards Garp while the fella didn't even use a single Galaxy attack on him 😂:shame:
Dude just stopped even attempting to reply since he was getting bodied left right and center lmfao
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Is that not what I just said? Lol

Unless you think Old Garp punches as hard as prime Garp, it is undeniable that prime Aokiji would beat old Garp into the ground with his fists alone. Lol
Idc about Aokiji vs Old Garp.

Aokiji only matched Garp's punching strength when both of them did not use CoA, CoC (which Garp alone has) or DF (which Kuzan alone has).
Fruitless/Hakiless Aokiji matched Hakiless Garp. :kayneshrug:
 
Fellas are going all out for some crumbs lmao , getting an equal clash against an already weakened Garp's no named hardened punch 😂 the same hardened punch from an already stronger version Prime Garp failed against a 500 million Pirate that he needed to train more against Mountains to deal with it 😭

Aside this , Since the start of the fight ; Old Garp was rag dolling Aokiji each time and dealt with an army of Fodders and Teach commanders which further kept his stamina weakening all of that while also protecting Coby and others and trying his hardest to keep his eyes on them , which made Fodders question how crazy this old man is and they didn't believe they have a chance even with aokiji fighting right there and they didn't believe he got weakened with Aokiji's so called hits😂


Until the stab came which weakened Garp hard , then Aokiji finally got that equal clash against an already weakened Old Garp's no named hardened punch ; and the fight ended after he blitzed the fuck outta him and cracked Pizzaru's skull and notices how Admirals fans keep the excuse of Aokiji having a soft heart towards Garp while the fella didn't even use a single Galaxy attack on him 😂:shame:
You weren't this triggered in years bro
😂
 
Prime Garp went on training by pulverizing mountains to prepare himself to flatten prime Chinjao's head, has powerful ACoC and named moes, allowing him to obliterate towns at old age when his strength declined by at least 50% by his own admission, as did his CoC decline since CoC is linked to overall strength and ambition.

The Manga stated the fact that an injured, old Garp was equally matched by a prime Aokiji who infused his punches with both Haki and his DF (we know Aokiji's most potent moves known to us work via a simple touch (Ice Time, Ice Age), hence by extension his ice gloves would work similarly, further proof being how in their exchange of blows, they were surrounded by both black lightning and ice).

There is a reason that the same admirals that spam their DFs against fodders and high tiers (Kizaru vs. Supernova and straw hats, Aokiji vs. fodders and commanders), tune their DF down and use them in accordance with other fighting styles (Aokiji's DF enhanced brawl against Garp and Kizaru's swordsmanship using a named light blade against Ralyeigh).

Somehow people think that the same Admirals that spam DFs against fodders, "restrict" their DF when fighting top tiers, rather than realizing that spamming DFs isn't useful against haki monsters.
 
You're running away with a half truth again.
Fruitless Aokiji does not punch as hard as Prime Garp, what Battleship Bags established is that no DF, no Haki Aokiji can punch as hard as no Haki Prime Garp.
Prime Garp was still training against Mountains to punch that old man's head 😂 Admirals fans want some crumbs they got OLD WEAKENED garp's no named punch but they went further and claimed it to be Prime Garp's Punch level
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Somehow people think that the same Admirals that spam DFs against fodders, "restrict" their DF when fighting top tiers, rather than realizing that spamming DFs isn't useful against haki monsters.
I was considering this and this may even be the case for Base Admirals, I think there's enough evidence to say so (Kiz vs Ray, Kuzan vs Garp) but Luffy, Kidd, Law who fought top tiers begged to differ. Awakening does make a difference, even a major one at that.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
There is a reason that the same admirals that spam their DFs against fodders and high tiers (Kizaru vs. Supernova and straw hats, Aokiji vs. fodders and commanders), tune their DF down and use them in accordance with other fighting styles (Aokiji's DF enhanced brawl against Garp and Kizaru's swordsmanship using a named light blade against Ralyeigh).
Meanwhile in reality


Garp would die in 3 seconds if he fought a serious Admiral lol.
 
Garling is in the line up and he answers to Imu, he isnt a separate party, and the same applies to Sabo and Dragon. Kuzan being there probably just means he will play a big role in this war for the treasure, not that he himself is in the race :luuh:
 
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