[FNZ] Role Madness Bullet Train Role Madness

[SoulKiller]

I'm 99.9 % sure that Crowned Witch is The Hornet. Please flip her so that Charlie can stop accusing me of poisoning people(a thing that I do not do)

Hahaha, it sure didn't take much for you to come out full swinging to protect yourself, you were not really in anyone radar.

If we believe this information and crowned is indeed the poisoner.

@Crowned Witch got anything to say for yourself?

 

[Crowned Witch]

I'm 99.9 % sure that Crowned Witch is The Hornet. Please flip her so that Charlie can stop accusing me of poisoning people(a thing that I do not do)

𝚈𝚘𝚞'𝚛𝚎 𝚓𝚞𝚜𝚝 𝚖𝚊𝚔𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚍𝚎𝚊𝚕𝚜 𝚠𝚒𝚝𝚑 𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚖 𝚝𝚘 𝚔𝚒𝚕𝚕 𝚙𝚎𝚘𝚙𝚕𝚎 𝚏𝚘𝚛 𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚖, 𝚆𝚘𝚕𝚏𝚒𝚎.

 

[Naomi]

Unless hes the poisoner and poisoned himself which would be insane.

Wouldn't that game throwing?

 

[Naomi]

Wouldn't that game throwing?

be-game

 

[Ultra]

There is the mechanical reason of the event, since you believe its a scum ability then it probably has to include scum in it for balance purposes. There were 6 players, I doubt the ability needs to include 3 scum players there because it would give town a 50% chance of shooting scum and if someone figured out the ability then it would be easier to PoE out the scum from that list.

Ergo for me Soulkiller is just town. In fact everyone who was in that even that wasnt Flower and Indio are town or indies.

As for Emil yeah he should be modkilled by now but hes not, him being scum could explain the reluctance to modkill him.

Er wait, I didn't assume the night ability was scum, it could just be from an unclaimed town person and then they talked it out and made the decision about shootings in night chat

Consider that the shots also had a high statistical probability of missing as well - they could be valuable for wifom purposes.

 

[SoulKiller]

Why would you want to test the theory of a player lying about being poisoned when they would self resolve

It's almost as if you'd like to waste time

How would they self resolve exactly?

Waste time? I scum read a player and stated the reasons for it and he is in my PoE. Nothing to waste time on. I have no qualms anyone in my PoE to get lynched. But this is my pick for now.

 

[Ultra]

8 players have been selected for a Mini-game.
@Flower @Charlie @Polar Bear @SoulKiller @Ultra @Yoho @Indigo @MangoSenpai
The game will begin at the end of day phase.

Spoiler

Disclaimer - The gif may or may not co-relate to the ability/action at hand. 80% times it won't.

Speaking of conditions did we check and make sure this wasn't automatically picking the posters with the highest post counts

 

[Fujishiro]

Er wait, I didn't assume the night ability was scum, it could just be from an unclaimed town person and then they talked it out and made the decision about shootings in night chat

Consider that the shots also had a high statistical probability of missing as well - they could be valuable for wifom purposes.

Well the ability fits the main bad guy to a T. He made people play russian roulette lol.

Yeah the ability could miss and I took that into account but like I said power wise they wouldnt include half the team there.

I could be wrong and this would be a town ability but I doubt it.

 

[Fujishiro]

Speaking of conditions did we check and make sure this wasn't automatically picking the posters with the highest post counts

No because I wasnt picked lol.

 

[Ultra]

Well the ability fits the main bad guy to a T. He made people play russian roulette lol.

Yeah the ability could miss and I took that into account but like I said power wise they wouldnt include half the team there.

I could be wrong and this would be a town ability but I doubt it.

I think making assumptions about statistical makeup of the pool of players is way too flimsy in any case and I would absolutely not use that as a basis to try and determine anyone's alignment.

In fact when you think about it logically, there's no real reason why a cap should be imposed on how many mafia can participate so much as there should be a requirement that at least a certain amount are.

 

[Fujishiro]

How would they self resolve exactly?

Waste time? I scum read a player and stated the reasons for it and he is in my PoE. Nothing to waste time on. I have no qualms anyone in my PoE to get lynched. But this is my pick for now.

I just told you we established that he was indeed poisoned unless you think Yoho is lying lol. So then your thinking about the convenience of his poisoning kinda goes out of the window.

Unless hes the poisoner himself and even then he would have to poison himself to know Yoho cured him.

 

[Fujishiro]

I think making assumptions about statistical makeup of the pool of players is way too flimsy in any case and I would absolutely not use that as a basis to try and determine anyone's alignment.

In fact when you think about it logically, there's no real reason why a cap should be imposed on how many mafia can participate so much as there should be a requirement that at least a certain amount are.

There should be a cap because like I said more mafia in that even means more chances of them being shot, also easier to PoE if people figure out the ability.

Sometimes you have to save mafia from themselves as the host.

Im not taking this as foolproof anything but this is my working theory and Mangos as well before me. And thus wouldnt go for the people in that even before those outside of it at the very least.

 

[Crowned Witch]

𝙲𝚊𝚗'𝚝 𝚋𝚎𝚕𝚒𝚎𝚟𝚎 𝙺𝚒𝚔𝚞 / 𝚆𝚘𝚕𝚏𝚒𝚎 𝚠𝚑𝚘 𝚑𝚊𝚍 𝚜𝚑𝚘𝚠𝚗 𝚣𝚎𝚛𝚘 𝚒𝚗𝚝𝚎𝚛𝚎𝚜𝚝 𝚒𝚗 𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚖𝚑𝚞𝚗𝚝𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚌𝚊𝚖𝚎 𝚒𝚗𝚝𝚘 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚝𝚑𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚍 𝚝𝚘𝚍𝚊𝚢 𝚓𝚞𝚜𝚝 𝚝𝚘 𝚜𝚊𝚢 𝚜𝚞𝚌𝚑 𝚜𝚝𝚞𝚙𝚒𝚍 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚐𝚜.

 

[Fujishiro]

𝙲𝚊𝚗'𝚝 𝚋𝚎𝚕𝚒𝚎𝚟𝚎 𝙺𝚒𝚔𝚞 / 𝚆𝚘𝚕𝚏𝚒𝚎 𝚠𝚑𝚘 𝚑𝚊𝚍 𝚜𝚑𝚘𝚠𝚗 𝚣𝚎𝚛𝚘 𝚒𝚗𝚝𝚎𝚛𝚎𝚜𝚝 𝚒𝚗 𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚖𝚑𝚞𝚗𝚝𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚌𝚊𝚖𝚎 𝚒𝚗𝚝𝚘 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚝𝚑𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚍 𝚝𝚘𝚍𝚊𝚢 𝚓𝚞𝚜𝚝 𝚝𝚘 𝚜𝚊𝚢 𝚜𝚞𝚌𝚑 𝚜𝚝𝚞𝚙𝚒𝚍 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚐𝚜.

Well shes been brought up by the Orca as potentially an SK

 

[Ultra]

There should be a cap because like I said more mafia in that even means more chances of them being shot, also easier to PoE if people figure out the ability.

Sometimes you have to save mafia from themselves as the host.

Im not taking this as foolproof anything but this is my working theory and Mangos as well before me. And thus wouldnt go for the people in that even before those outside of it at the very least.

It's voodoo until you know how the ability actually works, there's no reason for me to assume the host has perfectly balanced such an ability, there's abundant evidence to the contrary that this game isn't balanced lol

 

[SoulKiller]

I just told you we established that he was indeed poisoned unless you think Yoho is lying lol. So then your thinking about the convenience of his poisoning kinda goes out of the window.

Unless hes the poisoner himself and even then he would have to poison himself to know Yoho cured him.

I look at it like this, did yoho give an anti dote to alexis? sure we can safely say yes that is the case, does that mean that Alexis was indeed poisoned? no not really. You can recieve a heal when nothing is wrong with you. So now alexis won't get self since he won't die and we won't know if his theatre play is fake or not.

But if crowned is the poisoner here then tbh tbh I can see her poisoning alexis, but i find it odd he was not her first pick and she picked mango instead. But if memory serves me right she didn't really like either of them. So kinda checks out but would alexis poison someone last second? if the girl not gonna claim then this is all just mere speculations from my end.

 

[Ultra]

𝙲𝚊𝚗'𝚝 𝚋𝚎𝚕𝚒𝚎𝚟𝚎 𝙺𝚒𝚔𝚞 / 𝚆𝚘𝚕𝚏𝚒𝚎 𝚠𝚑𝚘 𝚑𝚊𝚍 𝚜𝚑𝚘𝚠𝚗 𝚣𝚎𝚛𝚘 𝚒𝚗𝚝𝚎𝚛𝚎𝚜𝚝 𝚒𝚗 𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚖𝚑𝚞𝚗𝚝𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚌𝚊𝚖𝚎 𝚒𝚗𝚝𝚘 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚝𝚑𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚍 𝚝𝚘𝚍𝚊𝚢 𝚓𝚞𝚜𝚝 𝚝𝚘 𝚜𝚊𝚢 𝚜𝚞𝚌𝚑 𝚜𝚝𝚞𝚙𝚒𝚍 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚐𝚜.

This is a really really bad response, can we please get this fool outta here

 

[Ultra]

Well shes been brought up by the Orca as potentially an SK

unless Kiku has reached their wincon and is trolling or something don't see why they would frame someone else as SK when they're SK

...Unless I'm mistaken and they're actually accusing them of being mafia

 

[Fujishiro]

I look at it like this, did yoho give an anti dote to alexis? sure we can safely say yes that is the case, does that mean that Alexis was indeed poisoned? no not really. You can recieve a heal when nothing is wrong with you. So now alexis won't get self since he won't die and we won't know if his theatre play is fake or not.

But if crowned is the poisoner here then tbh tbh I can see her poisoning alexis, but i find it odd he was not her first pick and she picked mango instead. But if memory serves me right she didn't really like either of them. So kinda checks out but would alexis poison someone last second? if the girl not gonna claim then this is all just mere speculations from my end.

How would Alexis know he was cured from the poison if he wasnt poisoned lol.

And why can you see Crowned poisoned Alexis?

Mango wasnt poisoned by the poisoner he started the game poisoned and dying.

 

[Fujishiro]

This is a really really bad response, can we please get this fool outta here

If thats an indie id rather get mafia but if we cant decide on a candidate then sure why not.

I vote for Pot Goblin or Emil.