Controversial General Political Discussion

[Roo]

He's a bad loser. He doesn't like to lose

he tried to change the results. You're making him sound like a child. Stop minimizing what he did.

Obviously he shouldn't have done those things but people who acted were more crazy and responsible...

You don't believe this. Who's worse, the Nazi's following orders or Hitler?

His act of defending them is bad. His statements were bad. But it still doesn't make him Hitler.

Media/Hollywood/Democrats keep on calling Trump a Hitler and threat to democracy

Did you miss the part where he deliberately uses terms such as great Reich? LMAO the guy is even playing into it.

and needs to be punched. Someone even enacted the act of his death.

A republican did....

Also find me media calling for turmp to be punched lol

There were riots after 2016 election results declared Trump winner.

And, some people in rallies did try to attack Trump. No one cared. Only this time it became big deal because someone tried to assassinate him.

Does this sound democratic to you?

Easy bullet to bite: Riots bad. One is actually inciting them while the other is random retards. These don't equate to one another

 

[RebelliousSoma]

I saw but… I’m not going to go into conspiracy theory now

I am only talking about the videos. What you see is actual events.

Not sure you use the term "conspiracy theory" colloquially or by its actual meaning though.

 

[Roo]

Large majority were just walking through the halls. Since when is mere walking terrorism? You are brainwashed. You gave zero counter arguments and are acting purely emotional.

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oh look the german guy who's obsessed with american poltics ^

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No, that’s not even similar logic, that’s physical violence, and claiming the election was stolen is an opinion that sadly made people way too upset.

Is an opinion that led to politcal violence? How are these not the same?

You can argue that Trump’s words are way too powerful and I will agree. It still did not move a functioning republican democracy an inch.

You don't agree because you said he's allowed to say whatever he wants tho

 

[RebelliousSoma]

he tried to change the results. You're making him sound like a child. Stop minimizing what he did.

You don't believe this. Who's worse, the Nazi's following orders or Hitler?


Did you miss the part where he deliberately uses terms such as great Reich? LMAO the guy is even playing into it.


A republican did....

Also find me media calling for turmp to be punched lol

Easy bullet to bite: Riots bad. One is actually inciting them while the other is random retards. These don't equate to one another

https://www.newsweek.com/jan-6-defendants-sue-police-officers-millions-1887589

Get your head out of the sand. Consider the other side of the story.

 

[Roo]

https://www.newsweek.com/jan-6-defendants-sue-police-officers-millions-1887589

Get your head out of the sand. Consider the other side of the story.

"Jan 6 defendant" aka traitor to this country. Go fucking start your own fascist government

 

[Reborn]

Yeah, if calling “election fraud” is dangerous and anti democracy that radicalises, calling Trump Hitler very much is as well.

Both parties do it

Though I think the two party system is completely ingrained and there have never been any problems with “democracy” for real.

Trump is no saint. He made offensive statements. Sometimes he acted badly. There is no defending of these.


But democrats or liberals have no right to call him Hitler or act as guardian of democracy on high moral compass when they themselves didn't live upto the ideals of democracy


1) Oakland 2016 riots immediately after Trump won the elections

2) Biden as a President remark of " calling Bulls eye on Trump" before assassination and calling him Nazi

3) Whole mainstream media projecting trump as a threat to the existence of democracy who will make everyone lives miserable and will target everyone. I mean they literally kept on repeating this narrative.

4) Hollywood literally advocated violence

5) people on twitter and in person wishing death to Trump

6) physical attacks on him

Don't these things count as incitement of violence?

Shouldn't these counts as attempt to not only brainwash people against Trump but to sow seeds of hatred against him?

Are these things democratic ? No

 

[RayanOO]

Asking for protest is not unusual though. Protests are the pinnacle of democracy since the creation of democracy.

But ya, I think he made a mistake there in the approach and handled it badly

Asking for protest against a project of law or against a political decision is normal

You have that in all democracies

Asking for protest against the democratic result of an election is totally different.

‘If Macron is promoting a retirement policy and a political party is asking to protest against it : fair game

if Macron is elected again, fairly and in a democratic way and a political party is asking to protest against that election it’s totally different and dangerous and yes it’s not democratic.

‘and there is also the place : protesting in the street is not the same thing as protesting in front of the parliament or the congress.

‘Those two things make Trumps move very dangerous and antidemocratic. And completely outside the realm of classic/normal protest/demonstration

 

[Natalija]

Is an opinion that led to politcal violence? How are these not the same?


You don't agree because you said he's allowed to say whatever he wants tho

Cause everyone is responsible for their own actions.

Yeah you know what allowed means.

 

[Reborn]

Behave guys


Chill

 

[Roo]

Cause everyone is responsible for their own actions.

Clearly, but the one leading and inciting is the most responsible. this is common sense

Yeah you know what allowed means.

Yes, allowed means you can do it without repercussions. Trump shouldn't be able to undermine our democracy without repercussions

Nobody says "you're allowed to hurt people" because we understands what happens if you

 

[RebelliousSoma]

Trump is no saint. He made offensive statements. Sometimes he acted badly. There is no defending of these.


But democrats or liberals have no right to call him Hitler or act as guardian of democracy on high moral compass when they themselves didn't live upto the ideals of democracy


1) Oakland 2016 riots immediately after Trump won the elections

2) Biden as a President remark of " calling Bulls eye on Trump" before assassination and calling him Nazi

3) Whole mainstream media projecting trump as a threat to the existence of democracy who will make everyone lives miserable and will target everyone. I mean they literally kept on repeating this narrative.

4) Hollywood literally advocated violence

5) people on twitter and in person wishing death to Trump

6) physical attacks on him

Don't these things count as incitement of violence?

Shouldn't these counts as attempt to not only brainwash people against Trump but to sow seeds of hatred against him?

Are these things democratic ? No

I remember in 2016 immediately after Trump being voted in some people got beat up to near death experience for voting for Trump.

Democrats practiced constant double standards. The recent assassination attempt is the direct result of their incitement to violence with words such as "he can't be allowed, he has to go" ... I am not going to quote the exact words, they go way too far and it's sad nobody is holding them accountable.

 

[Roo]

Behave guys


Chill

I have 0 chill for foreign actors poisoning my country

@the mod who deleted my post, you gotta let the American defend his country online

 

[RebelliousSoma]

you gotta let the American defend his country online

Learn your history. Actually properly learn your history. Also read your constitution and make sure you understand it. Prove you care.

Otherwise you might as well call yourself any other nationality on the two American continents.

Does waving the american flag mean someone is being a white nationalist nazi to you? That's how you come across.

 

[Natalija]

Asking for protest against a project of law or against a political decision is normal

You have that in all democracies

Asking for protest against the democratic result of an election is totally different.

‘If Macron is promoting a retirement policy and a political party is asking to protest against it : fair game

if Macron is elected again, fairly and in a democratic way and a political party is asking to protest against that election it’s totally different and dangerous and yes it’s not democratic.

‘and there is also the place : protesting in the street is not the same thing as protesting in front of the parliament or the congress.

‘Those two things make Trumps move very dangerous and antidemocratic. And completely outside the realm of classic/normal protest/demonstration

Disagree I guess. Everyone has the right to protest for their views.

In my country there’s massive election fraud and we full well had the right to protest that (https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news...mmitments-to-free-and-fair-elections-say-meps).

Whether you agree or not on there actually being fraud, the right to protest is still democratic.

 

[Roo]

Chill retard. Don't throw random comments and make baseless claims.

Realise the censorship and the MSM brainwashing done onto you is fascism. The truth isn't fascist just because you love a fairy tale.
You're a brown shirt.

Random comments? You literally posted a guy complicit in the jan 6 plot. That loser is a traitor, anybody who acts on undermining our democracy is one.

Learn your history. Actually properly learn your history. Also read your constitution and make sure you understand it. Prove you care.

Otherwise you might as well call yourself any other nationality on the two American continents.

Does waving the american flag mean someone is being a white nationalist nazi to you? That's how you come across.

The fuck are you rambling on? Did your script malfunction?

 

[Reborn]

I have 0 chill for foreign actors poisoning my country

@the mod who deleted my post, you gotta let the American defend his country online

Alright!

Just don't get banned. BB low diff law episode will come up soon and I want you here

 

[Roo]

Alright!

Just don't get banned. BB low diff law episode will come up soon and I want you here

I'll gladly die(get banned) defending my country

 

[RebelliousSoma]

You add 0 value to this world and I hope the worst things ever happen to you. Fucking bot

You know nothing about me. Also it's wrong to wish harm onto others. You have serious problem. Go see a doctor immediately.
You should learn something from the last 8 years incitement to violence and hateful rhetorics. It didn't go well for FJB.

Also "everyone disagreeing with me is a bot" lol, you completely lack self-awareness I see.

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The fuck are you rambling on?

The MSM literally calls about anyone waving a flag a nazi or white supremacist, regardless of their colour or race. Your memory is shallow.

 

[Natalija]

Clearly, but the one leading and inciting is the most responsible. this is common sense

Yes, allowed means you can do it without repercussions. Trump shouldn't be able to undermine our democracy without repercussions

Nobody says "you're allowed to hurt people" because we understands what happens if you

Sure, and he went to court for it?

None of that disproves that your democracy is factually still fine.

 

[RayanOO]

What I have done entering this place

now I want to respond to everything and everyone