General & Others Zoro soul manipulation

#21
Killer is at worst a vet level guy stronger than top members of the tobiroppo

Believing he can’t hurt a logia with his main weapon because he can’t use haki on them is 100% stupid

Another bait thread?:lawsigh:
Why are u so obsessed with Zoro if u don't even like the character?
Anyways, this isn't bleach. There are no soul powers involved unless it's thru a DF like Brook's or BM's
Oden’s retainers and enma disprove that

We got the power of imagination and the power of love but for some reason soul related abilities is crossing the line lol. Something that already exists
 
#23
Oden’s retainers and enma disprove that
They don't disprove shit

We got the power of imagination and the power of love but for some reason soul related abilities is crossing the line lol. Something that already exists
Soul related abilities can't exist because it adds in a entirely new power system to this existing cluster of power system we have. And somehow only a few specific individuals having those abilities breaks the story consistency.
The only 2 cases we have are because of a DF and even those don't go too deep in soul abilities.
 
#24
They don't disprove shit


Soul related abilities can't exist because it adds in a entirely new power system to this existing cluster of power system we have. And somehow only a few specific individuals having those abilities breaks the story consistency.
The only 2 cases we have are because of a DF and even those don't go too deep in soul abilities.

Odens soul lived on through his retainers and blades. Things straight up said to be possible
Kaido feeling odens presence from both. It’s why the scabbards could cut him and why enma was reacting to kaido’s presence

It’s not a new power
It’s something that’s always been a part of brooks abilities that he improved even more post timeskip. Asura might even be zoro having his soul shaped to look like that

The power of love and imagination exists in one piece
Drawing the line at soul related abilities makes no sense
 
#25
The power of love and imagination exists in one piece
Drawing the line at soul related abilities makes no sense
No such thing as power of love or imagination. One is related to haki and other is related to DF ability.


Odens soul lived on through his retainers and blades. Things straight up said to be possible
Kaido feeling odens presence from both. It’s why the scabbards could cut him and why enma was reacting to kaido’s presence
None of these statements are actual facts.
For swords, we have a factual statement by a swordsmith that each blade have specific temperament. Kozaburo the guy who knows about swords best never mentioned anything about someone's soul passed on to a swords. Kaido doesn't know about swords better than Kozaburo
Shamisen panel is a coincidence because in that exact moment Zoro started displaying doubt which made him loose focus which then lead to Enma going out of control

It’s not a new power
It’s something that’s always been a part of brooks abilities that he improved even more post timeskip. Asura might even be zoro having his soul shaped to look like that
It is a new power system
Show me one other example of someone manipulating soul abilities except BM and Brook (both of whom got their powers from Soul related DFs). Also before u point out Law, let me clarify Shambles is not a soul related move. It's a spacial move which can work on animate as well as inanimate objects
Asura as first stated by Kaku the first time, is an illusion. It's not real.
 
#31
No such thing as power of love or imagination. One is related to haki and other is related to DF ability.


None of these statements are actual facts.
For swords, we have a factual statement by a swordsmith that each blade have specific temperament. Kozaburo the guy who knows about swords best never mentioned anything about someone's soul passed on to a swords. Kaido doesn't know about swords better than Kozaburo
Shamisen panel is a coincidence because in that exact moment Zoro started displaying doubt which made him loose focus which then lead to Enma going out of control


It is a new power system
Show me one other example of someone manipulating soul abilities except BM and Brook (both of whom got their powers from Soul related DFs). Also before u point out Law, let me clarify Shambles is not a soul related move. It's a spacial move which can work on animate as well as inanimate objects
Asura as first stated by Kaku the first time, is an illusion. It's not real.
The power of imagination isn’t something specifically just tied to devil fruits
The power of love isn’t haki. Kuma’s body isn’t moving because of haki

And we have a statement of souls getting passed down through weapons and odens retainers. Ignoring the ones you don’t like doesn’t stop them from existing
Acting like the hiyori enma seen isn’t directly because oden was the previous user is funny lol

That’s like saying the power of love doesn’t exist because we’ve only seen 2 characters outright stated to use it lol
If you ignore the few examples we actually get because for some reason they don’t count it makes no sense to continue arguing tbh
You have the panel of Raizo failing to cut Kaido… I know you do

Coating your sword in haki is not AcOA
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Yes in the panel I posted of them all attacking and cutting kaido lol. Is only directly seeing kinemon and Kiku do it doesn’t somehow mean only they can do it. And the reason they cut him is because their strong connection to oden

There are 3 forms of armament
  1. Basic use to use on your body
  2. A more advanced use to flow outside of your body
    • The one weapon users use
  3. The most advanced use to flow it outside your body within things

Those are the 3 applications of armament
 
#32
The power of imagination isn’t something specifically just tied to devil fruits
The power of love isn’t haki. Kuma’s body isn’t moving because of haki

And we have a statement of souls getting passed down through weapons and odens retainers. Ignoring the ones you don’t like doesn’t stop them from existing
Acting like the hiyori enma seen isn’t directly because oden was the previous user is funny lol

That’s like saying the power of love doesn’t exist because we’ve only seen 2 characters outright stated to use it lol
If you ignore the few examples we actually get because for some reason they don’t count it makes no sense to continue arguing tbh

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Yes in the panel I posted of them all attacking and cutting kaido lol. Is only directly seeing kinemon and Kiku do it doesn’t somehow mean only they can do it. And the reason they cut him is because their strong connection to oden

There are 3 forms of armament
  1. Basic use to use on your body
  2. A more advanced use to flow outside of your body
    • The one weapon users use
  3. The most advanced use to flow it outside your body within things

Those are the 3 applications of armament
Nah, coating things other than the user's body has never been treated as a higher level than basic CoA
  1. Basic armament = coating your body or anything connected to it, be that a weapon, clothes or whatever
  2. Barrier = emitting haki a distance away from your body with no medium
  3. Internal destruction = sending haki inside a person's body and damaging them internally
 
#33
Nah, coating things other than the user's body has never been treated as a higher level than basic CoA
  1. Basic armament = coating your body or anything connected to it, be that a weapon, clothes or whatever
  2. Barrier = emitting haki a distance away from your body with no medium
  3. Internal destruction = sending haki inside a person's body and damaging them internally
Hyogoro tells us that that the advanced haki luffy is trying to use is how swordsman are able to infuse their blades with haki
 
#35
Hyogoro tells us that that the advanced haki luffy is trying to use is how swordsman are able to infuse their blades with haki
Hyogoro is talking about armament in general in that middle panel, he literally states that ryuo is what Wano calls haki (referring to CoA)

To name a few, Smoker, Raisin, Cracker, Vergo, Doflamingo, King, Tashigi, pre-Wano Luffy, Katakuri, Don Sai's fodder brother and practically every single Kuja Pirate have been shown either imbuing their weapon or a piece of their clothing like Luffy's sandals or Doflamingo's flamingo coat, none of them are barrier haki users lmao, pretending otherwise is just straight stupid.
 
#36
Hyogoro is talking about armament in general in that middle panel, he literally states that ryuo is what Wano calls haki (referring to CoA)

To name a few, Smoker, Raisin, Cracker, Vergo, Doflamingo, King, Tashigi, pre-Wano Luffy, Katakuri, Don Sai's fodder brother and practically every single Kuja Pirate have been shown either imbuing their weapon or a piece of their clothing like Luffy's sandals or Doflamingo's flamingo coat, none of them are barrier haki users lmao, pretending otherwise is just straight stupid.
Marigold can do it
Just because it’s a more advanced application doesn’t mean it’s in any way rare

Coating haki in haki = mighty blade
The same technique hyogoro is trying to teach luffy tho obviously without a sword
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But yeah there’s only 3 main applications of armament
 
#37
Marigold can do it
Just because it’s a more advanced application doesn’t mean it’s in any way rare

Coating haki in haki = mighty blade
The same technique hyogoro is trying to teach luffy tho obviously without a sword
So?

Funny how we've seen all those characters I listed coat a weapon/thing other than their body and yet not once has any of them ever emitted their haki like real barrier haki user does, e.g Sentomaru, just a coincidence I'm sure.
 
#38
So?

Funny how we've seen all those characters I listed coat a weapon/thing other than their body and yet not once has any of them ever emitted their haki like real barrier haki user does, e.g Sentomaru, just a coincidence I'm sure.
It’s a commonly used application

They fight difficulty
Same type of haki just used differently

It’s how hyogoro coats his sword and what he taught luffy
 
#39
It’s a commonly used application

They fight difficulty
Same type of haki just used differently

It’s how hyogoro coats his sword and what he taught luffy
No, you're just greatly misconstruing what Hyogoro said.

Smoker, Raisin, Cracker, Vergo, Doflamingo, King, Tashigi, pre-Wano Luffy, Katakuri, Don Sai's fodder brother and practically every single Kuja Pirate are not barrier haki users just because they've coated something other than their body.
 
#40
No, you're just greatly misconstruing what Hyogoro said.

Smoker, Raisin, Cracker, Vergo, Doflamingo, King, Tashigi, pre-Wano Luffy, Katakuri, Don Sai's fodder brother and practically every single Kuja Pirate are not barrier haki users just because they've coated something other than their body.
Yeah if you’re able to infuse armament into things outside of your body than you’re using the second level of armament
 
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