Controversial General Political Discussion

[Roo]

Again - he was giving impression of mentally incapability. You democrats perhaps rewired your mind but whole world was laughing at that...it was all over the news.

Yet we he have leaks of his actual medical testing and he was fine? I think you’re a pedophile. Does it mean you are one?

btw I’m making a point bonbon. Don’t take it seriously

And, I don't have to break it down to you but yeah you lot got deceived.

With Someone like Biden who was struggling during speeches and walking on podium cluelessly, Harris and co were exercising power behind the scenes with responsibility lying with Biden.

And, that's why they were fine with someone like Biden running again until it became clear to them they will lose and thus within few days to pressured Biden to drop out.

Again, baseless conspiracies lol.

 

[Medeia]

isn’t the science behind transitioning kids highly debated to the point where governments are even backing away from it? For a guy who loves to taunt science he sure doesn’t give a fuck when it comes to transgender people lol

Here's the thing, the entire so called debate is mostly based on lies such as "kids and teenagers getting hormones or genital surgery" en mass tho, the latter isn't done at all (Kim Petras is basically one of a handful or two handful of people world wide who got surgery with 16) and even the former is given rarely to people in their late teens with gender dysphoria diagnosis.

What happens after many months of prior therapy and consultations is the prescription of puberty blockers, which weren't even made for trans people many decades ago, but for children whos puberty started really early (happens in most cases for girls) aswell as people with intersex conditions (HRT hormones were also originally made to treat intersex people).

Now granted, there's indeed some medical researches with worrying implications that they cause lacks in development of bone structures by the halt of puberty that may be irreversible. If it's this uncertainty about the safety of puberty blockers in general (not just for teens with dysphoria diagnosis) or anything rational that would drive even scandinavian liberal countries to halt/prohibit the use of them it would be understandable, but thats not really the case.

For most loud people against such medical treatment it's really just a thinly veiled cloak (they also call for much more radical things against trans people as a whole) and a door opener for more radical anti-trans laws as we can see in republican us-states with some not allowing trans people to apply for a drivers license anymore to make it harder for them to flee from such state.

The entirety existence as people who explicitly don't identify with their birth gender is a affront, doesn't matter at what age. Either they're called as "unnatural that should not exist" by some atheists or considered "evil satanists" by lots of religious people. The only existence allowed for many is to live socially as the birth gender again, if even that after being branded as above.

 

[Roo]

When Trump whoops, it's of the average human variety though. Like you or myself would. It's not the same at all.

This is bias screaming, when Trump confuses Kamala with Pelosi is a normal whoops but Biden with Putin and Zelensky? 🤬🤬🤬

 

[Reborn]

Yet we he have leaks of his actual medical testing and he was fine? I think you’re a pedophile. Does it mean you are one?

btw I’m making a point bonbon. Don’t take it seriously


Again, baseless conspiracies lol.

You don't have me giving impression of pedo but Biden was giving impression of being mentally incapable. Understand the difference.There are countless videos of that.

 

[Zemmi]

anyone think bush is behind 9/11?

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hop off

I hate that though about 9/11. I don't even know if Bush would be a part of it. I do know, I don't trust the clintons, bushes or obamas.

If I was going to jump on a theory, I would lean more to allowed it to happen than planned for it to happen. But to restate what I said yesterday, I don't like believing those things are possible.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I hate that though about 9/11. I don't even know if Bush would be a part of it. I do know, I don't trust the clintons, bushes or obamas.

If I was going to jump on a theory, I would lean more to allowed it to happen than planned for it to happen. But to restate what I said yesterday, I don't like believing those things are possible.

Makes sense. Tbh I'm not sure what happened there.

 

[Zemmi]

This is bias screaming, when Trump confuses Kamala with Pelosi is a normal whoops but Putin and Zelensky? 🤬🤬🤬

I'm not talking about those mistakes with Biden. I'm talking about the big things he have often, like claiming to talk to dead people. Or events that never happened, which he could just be a liar, or his mind could be making him believe it.

 

[Roo]

Here's the thing, the entire so called debate is mostly based on lies such as "kids and teenagers getting hormones or genital surgery" en mass tho, the latter isn't done at all (Kim Petras is basically one of a handful or two handful of people world wide who got surgery with 16) and even the former is given rarely to people in their late teens with gender dysphoria diagnosis.

But it does happen, idk about genital surgery but the kids do get hormone therapy young to avoid puberty.

I don’t like it when lefties try the whole narcissist prayer when it comes to trans people

x doesn’t happen

but if it doesn’t happen it’s not as much

but if it happens as much is not a big deal

If it’s a big deal is only because you’re making it to be

I do wish both sides were more honest when it comes to this topic. The right is unhinged when it comes to trans people I agree, but I do think it is normal to be generally concerned about how transition as a kid can impact that kids entire life. I hate that the left has left rabid trans activist hijack this instead of being more transparent

 

[Zemmi]

Crooks got off 8 shots. That is unacceptable.

The FBI is speaking today and already more open than the secret service on the first question.

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And it becomes more insane with each new information how they allowed Trump to take the stage.

 

[RebelliousSoma]

Yet we he have leaks of his actual medical testing and he was fine? I think you’re a pedophile. Does it mean you are one?

btw I’m making a point bonbon. Don’t take it seriously


Again, baseless conspiracies lol.

Who is conspiring what exactly? There is video evidence of Biden's dementia, you are trying to deny what's easy to observe.
I worked with dementia patients, I can spot one when I see one.

Also sharing this one because it's funny how the phone call with Trump affected him.

 

[Logiko]

Yes they can. They are literally switching genders.

No
They
Are
Not

A trans gender person is LITERALLY someone who identifies as the OPPOSITE gender assignated AT BIRTH.

Ok, I will make a drawing for you to understand better because I don't know how to be more pedagogue right know without breaking my computer in half.

IN OTHER WORDS:

A trans person DOES NOT "switch" their gender, they want to LOOK LIKE and be PERCEIVED LIKE their REAL gender that they have ALWAYS been feeling.

This is something that does not happen in our society, simply because its an heteronormative one. Our society literally assignated gender at birth base on sex, when we KNOW SCIENTIFICALLY that those two thing are NOT the same thing.

Gender disphoria is simply the reaction that happens when someone lives in an environment that doesn't perceive their real gender.
- For example by calling you a girl when you feel like a boy
- By calling you Anna when you are a boy
etc.

This creates a suffering, depression in some case and sometimes the urge to kill themselves.

How so? Again if they could change genders in the first place I'm certain it's possible for them to do it again.

Its crazy, there is something here blocking our communication and I really don't know how to fix that.

Gender is not something you choose to switch, is something that is in your bone. Why would they want to switch it again ?

(again, unless you are gender fluid, and in that case, things get trickier)

There is a huge distance between being stabbed in your stomach and fucking bleeding out, and not knowing what gender you are

No.
There
Is
NOT

Or rather yes there is one difference : One is instantanious, the other is a long term suffering.

have you EVER been into depression mate ? Do you know how it feels ??? I do, I went their multiple time ! Well guess what :

I would have prefered to be stabbed instead !

Gender disphoria is not a simple melancolia mate. Its a real pathology with real comorbidities that has high risk to lead the person toward depression and in some cases suicide !

Do not underestimate the impacts of mental sufferings !

We need to support those person and those kids. This is not an option or a debate.

Eh I’m pretty sure is a highly debated topic in the medical field. I ldgaf what some random trans person has to say unless they’re experts in said field

Dude, you have the burden of proof here.

Also, I would not recommend to trash the opinion of trans people on a subject that is literally concerning them and their survival.

Anyways I think stuff like that should be handled by 3 parties, the doctor the parents and the child. Let the experts and the affected parties handle it

I agree, to a certain limit.

Every single time Logiko speaks I feel my brain go limp

I swear I hope you never go through a real depression. Because its gonna be quite a surprise for you.

 

[Zemmi]

I agree, unless the parents are opposed to it and in that case its a 2 parties

You asked me why I was worried about my parental rights. This statement pretty much nailed it. When as a parent I know my children best and always have their best interest upfront.

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Trust me these kids have never lined my pockets and only shrunk them. I have no motive besides doing what is best for them.

 

[Roo]

No
They
Are
Not

A trans gender person is LITERALLY someone who identifies as the OPPOSITE gender assignated AT BIRTH.

Ok, I will make a drawing for you to understand better because I don't know how to be more pedagogue right know without breaking my computer in half.

IN OTHER WORDS:

A trans person DOES NOT "switch" their gender, they want to LOOK LIKE and be PERCEIVED LIKE their REAL gender that they have ALWAYS been feeling.

This is something that does not happen in our society, simply because its an heteronormative one. Our society literally assignated gender at birth base on sex, when we KNOW SCIENTIFICALLY that those two thing are NOT the same thing.

Gender disphoria is simply the reaction that happens when someone lives in an environment that doesn't perceive their real gender.
- For example by calling you a girl when you feel like a boy
- By calling you Anna when you are a boy
etc.

This creates a suffering, depression in some case and sometimes the urge to kill themselves.



Its crazy, there is something here blocking our communication and I really don't know how to fix that.

Gender is not something you choose to switch, is something that is in your bone. Why would they want to switch it again ?

(again, unless you are gender fluid, and in that case, things get trickier)



No.
There
Is
NOT

Or rather yes there is one difference : One is instantanious, the other is a long term suffering.

have you EVER been into depression mate ? Do you know how it feels ??? I do, I went their multiple time ! Well guess what :

I would have prefered to be stabbed instead !

Gender disphoria is not a simple melancolia mate. Its a real pathology with real comorbidities that has high risk to lead the person toward depression and in some cases suicide !

Do not underestimate the impacts of mental sufferings !

We need to support those person and those kids. This is not an option or a debate.


Dude, you have the burden of proof here.

Also, I would not recommend to trash the opinion of trans people on a subject that is literally concerning them and their survival.



I agree, to a certain limit.





I swear I hope you never go through a real depression. Because its gonna be quite a surprise for you.

I don’t think I’ll ever be comfortable allowing kids to make life altering decisions without their parents consent

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I swear I hope you never go through a real depression. Because its gonna be quite a surprise for you.

...What?

 

[Sentinel]

I hope you don't tell this stuff to actual children @Logiko

Ofc there is a difference in believing you're having a wrong gender vs undergoing life-long changing surgeries which will alter the kid's body permanently. Do you think a kid is aware of the consequences if it's regretting that choice?

Why not allow twelve years old to decide for plastic surgeries as well if we're at that part?

 

[Zenos7]

Neither is the secret moon base. The official return keeps getting postponed. Somehow we lost the technology or we never went? Neither feasible nor matching reality, therefore it's clear we never stopped going!! Moonbase soldiers are spying on your grandma.

Wtf. Other countries Sattelites also go near the moon to take footage

 

[RebelliousSoma]

I hope you don't tell this stuff to actual children @Logiko

Maybe he does drag queen story hour.

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Why not allow twelve years old to decide for plastic surgeries as well if we're at that part?

Not old enough to drive, not old enough for a tattoo, not old enough to vote, not old enough to smoke or drink, but apparently old enough to make permanent life changing decisions.

 

[Zenos7]

The real question is about owning up to your actions. If you fucked and got pregnant, it is your responsibility to raise your kids. A children is not a virus, its not an invasive agent that got into your body uninvited. Children are the result of your actions. Abortion is legalizing infanticide as a means of pregnancy control. Infanticide is murder.
Imagine how cruel one can be to destroy a life you generated just cause you don't feel like being bothered by it. Have you ever googled how an abortion is done? They literally chop up the kid inside the uterus. That allegory is bullshit. The premise is false. The kid isn't taking you hostage, it is the other way around. That mother and father generated that life. It's their responsability.

What if the actual.pregnancy control (condoms for example) didnt work?

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We are not talking about children here, but potential ones.
We are talking about a form of life that is pumping the life forces of a woman's body without consent.

Eh, depending on definition a fetus is also a child.

How we call it shouldnt matter in the actual discussion though

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Nobody's reading allat Logiko. Abortion is murder and they're taking a baby's right to live. That's the bottom line

Murder is unlawful killing. If abortion is legal its not murder.

Its definitely the killing of a human life though

 

[Mathias]

No one said brain dead but there is a phrase - mentally incapable for the office.

He did fine for 4 years

 

[Zenos7]

Remember, a foetus, is nothing more than a blob of skin and tissu with electrical signals without consciences and nothing to feel pain

Still human

We are all just a bundle of Atoms that are interacting with each other in a funny way.