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Lets be honest, most of these extreme left politicians aren't simply comparable to the likes of Stalin and Hitler simply because they don't have the means to create dictatorships(their wet dreams). Their rhetoric is not far from Nazis:
*Gun control: Nazis did it. They preach for it.
*Strict regulation of the economy: Nazis did it. They preach for it.
*Abortion/Euthanasia: Nazis had eugenic policies. They preach for it.
*Heavy propagada: Nazis did it and it seems they(the left) toke notes from Goebbels.
*Concentration of power/authoritarian state policies: Nazis did it. The whole fucking world was put into domestic jail and coerced to take experimental vaccines under the threat of jail.
*Anti-Jews/Israeli sentiment and rhetoric: Nazis did it and so does the left. Even to the point of cheering for terrorists like Hamas.
They only link missing here is the Nationalism and Arianism. Actually the only difference between Nazis and Communists is Aryanism and Eugenics. They are pretty SIMILAR in all other aspects(I'm not saying they were equals). Soviet subversion theory seems to me what happened with the West.
Demolition of tradition and creation of conflict/division by instigating vocal minorities is what happened to all of us. The political spectrum has being deformed by propaganda. The National German Socialist party was definitively not conservative or right wing. Communist are all hypocrites by the nature of their cultural movement.“Accuse your opponent of what you are doing, to create confusion and to inculcate voters against evidence of your own guilt.”
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Lets be honest, most of these extreme left politicians aren't simply comparable to the likes of Stalin and Hitler simply because they don't have the means to create dictatorships(their wet dreams). Their rhetoric is not far from Nazis:
*Gun control: Nazis did it. They preach for it.
*Strict regulation of the economy: Nazis did it. They preach for it.
*Abortion/Euthanasia: Nazis had eugenic policies. They preach for it.
*Heavy propagada: Nazis did it and it seems they(the left) toke notes from Goebbels.
*Concentration of power/authoritarian state policies: Nazis did it. The whole fucking world was put into domestic jail and coerced to take experimental vaccines under the threat of jail.
*Anti-Jews/Israeli sentiment and rhetoric: Nazis did it and so does the left. Even to the point of cheering for terrorists like Hamas.
They only link missing here is the Nationalism and Arianism. Actually the only difference between Nazis and Communists is Aryanism and Eugenics. They are pretty SIMILAR in all other aspects(I'm not saying they were equals). Soviet subversion theory seems to me what happened with the West.
Demolition of tradition and creation of conflict/division by instigating vocal minorities is what happened to all of us. The political spectrum has being deformed by propaganda. The National German Socialist party was definitively not conservative or right wing. Communist are all hypocrites by the nature of their cultural movement.“Accuse your opponent of what you are doing, to create confusion and to inculcate voters against evidence of your own guilt.”
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Literally entirety of Europe banned guns, most of the world too, are we all Nazis now?
What strict regulation of economy?? Entire world is based on free market and capitalism. Name me one thing that is strict about economy lmfao
Again, majority of the world has this, are we all Nazis now?
And Nazis killed non Germans, they had pro natality policies for German population - The Hitler Youth
Omg who tf owns CNN, Fox News and Twitter? Right wingers. But you conveniently ignored that
Right Wingers still salty about COVID, snow flakes
Zionism isn't same as Judaism. Zionist literally hate every other religion
Stop breathing 4chan and Reddit fumes and touch some grass
What strict regulation of economy?? Entire world is based on free market and capitalism. Name me one thing that is strict about economy lmfao
Again, majority of the world has this, are we all Nazis now?
And Nazis killed non Germans, they had pro natality policies for German population - The Hitler Youth
Omg who tf owns CNN, Fox News and Twitter? Right wingers. But you conveniently ignored that
Right Wingers still salty about COVID, snow flakes
Zionism isn't same as Judaism. Zionist literally hate every other religion
Stop breathing 4chan and Reddit fumes and touch some grass
It seems i triggered you, let me answer your long ass shit post:
1-Modern day Europe is far from a great example of freedom and liberty.
2-Come down to Latin America and try to create a business. You need a bunch of paperwork that costs loads of money for the silliest of things. First world economies aren't nearly as regulated, that is one of the reasons you guys do better. Lets not talk about taxation lmfao.
3-No,the majority of the world does not have abortion and Euthanasia. Europe isn't the world. Stop. I said Eugenics because what the left is doing is basically preaching for Black/Mixed babies to be put down. Abortions are more common in the poor population. People of color are the poor folk of South, Central and North America.
4-hahaha You must be trolling. A handful of right wing outlets vs an entire left wing status quo/establishment. The left dominates culture and politics in most of the western world. and some people wonder why the world is going to shit
5-Very few people can admit they were made fools of. It seems you are one of those. Everyone was made a fool off. People got locked up, lost jobs, small business were ruined, some had their mental health ruined due to the lockdown, other had their physical health ruined thnx to the jabs. If you are alright with such authoritarianism, you are part of the problem. Covid was a scam. It wasn't nearly as lethal as they made it out to be. You guys traded freedom for safety.
6-Many leftists preach actual antisemitic rhetoric. Praising a terrorist group that wants to destroy the state of Israel and the Jews living there is antisemitism.
yep.
Mad cope,bro. Just admit the left is a Satanic movement.
1-Modern day Europe is far from a great example of freedom and liberty.
2-Come down to Latin America and try to create a business. You need a bunch of paperwork that costs loads of money for the silliest of things. First world economies aren't nearly as regulated, that is one of the reasons you guys do better. Lets not talk about taxation lmfao.
3-No,the majority of the world does not have abortion and Euthanasia. Europe isn't the world. Stop. I said Eugenics because what the left is doing is basically preaching for Black/Mixed babies to be put down. Abortions are more common in the poor population. People of color are the poor folk of South, Central and North America.
4-hahaha You must be trolling. A handful of right wing outlets vs an entire left wing status quo/establishment. The left dominates culture and politics in most of the western world. and some people wonder why the world is going to shit
5-Very few people can admit they were made fools of. It seems you are one of those. Everyone was made a fool off. People got locked up, lost jobs, small business were ruined, some had their mental health ruined due to the lockdown, other had their physical health ruined thnx to the jabs. If you are alright with such authoritarianism, you are part of the problem. Covid was a scam. It wasn't nearly as lethal as they made it out to be. You guys traded freedom for safety.
6-Many leftists preach actual antisemitic rhetoric. Praising a terrorist group that wants to destroy the state of Israel and the Jews living there is antisemitism.
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Mad cope,bro. Just admit the left is a Satanic movement.
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Can one of you Trump bootlickers explain to me in what context you can defend this man when he says that people won't have to vote any more after his reelection ?
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So..
I don't think I will, but i'm not excluding the idea. (You also have to understand that it works both way, meaning that I will also have fun with someone else, I do not think I will like to watch)
Or maybe, I'm more confident in my own sexuality that you will ever be.
The toxic injonction to work is a typical rightist thing to do. Not my jam, sorry.
Don't talk then, because you are wasting both our time.
There is a lot of ways to fight a system mate. Don't gatekeep.
There is absolutely nothing radical in what I said.. you broke your compass
Nothing surprising here.
Workers rights are workers rights. Its a very clear subject (work hours / minimal wages / union influences / Benefits / Working conditions / Working safety / Public holidays / Pregnancy discrimination acts / Right to refuse unsafe work / Disability / Unemployement wages / Social services for people who are unemplyed / Bullying and sexual harrasment / Employement standards / hirarchical abuse and legal rights of employees / Strike rights / Lay-off conditions etc..)
So, for you, preventing business owner to be paid 50 times more than their employee or simply tax to 90% certain billionaires and millionaire (thus leaving them still with Millions) to avoid inequalities ... is communism ? Noted.
Not a surprise. Genocides are generally overlooked by rightists.
Yes, somethings changed, inequalities increased and the far right multiplied.
Not a surprise either (In France, public medias are own by the state, they are the most critical of the power and the most truthfull outside of independant medias (not owned by billionnaires). Usually, if you want to create more authoristarism, you privatize all the medias. This will create a few monopoles owned by billionnaires and corporations. This will as a result shut down the influence of leftism and social rethoric and strenghten the influence of liberals and conservatists, especially the far right ones.
And look at that, that's exactly what is happening in Italy right now.
Noted
Good
I see
You are indeed not conservatist. But definitely a rightist. (there is a lot of parameters that can verify that : Your belief in meritocracy, your instant call of communism for simple social democrat politics, your lack of care for oppressions, your economic liberalism etc.
I don't think you were ever a leftist before, I think you have an idea of what leftism is, but you don't really understand it. Also, you may think you went toward rationnality but you did not because if you did, you would have gone the other way as science and researches are pointing toward the radical left and not toward the right.
Capitalism, racism, ableism and patriarchy, LGBTQIphobia and antiscientifism.
I don't have one issue, I have 6.
Again, you don't understand. Proving me wrong is extremely easy. A lot of people have done that here already.
For that, you only need reliable proof, since what I say is always backed up by evidences either scientific, politic or artistic.
The problem is that I'm on the side of the proof. So you can't convince me unless you know more than me or you have work that contradict or precise what I say. And usually, the only person that can do that are on my left and not on my right.
I'm talking to you, we have an interaction. This means that yes, I'm participating in society. Simple logic mate.
You confuse the fact of participating in society with doing labor for the economy or creating economic value. That's the mind of a capitalist. I'm sorry, but that's not very rationnal. Participating in society means participating in ONE OF its aspect, it doesn't necessarily means creating value or being productive.
Right here, I'm participating in the social aspect.
Yes, I DON'T have enough to buy everything I need.
And ? Because there is hell on the outside, does this means that I don't need to care if my house is starting to burn ?
I'm sorry, but I won't take moral lesson about inequalities from someone who don't even care about outside oppressions.
Nop, just a small part. You are projecting here.
That, is a fact, yes.
Do you really feel as I'm targeting small business owners in my rethoric here ?
A smaller Trump is still a Trump
I worked in fast food. I know what working pressure and abusive managership looks like. I also know how some people simply do not have the choice you or I might have.
So I'm choosing to find a way to support them instead of supporting those who exploit them.
Cool.
No, its red. Red because of the blood of the oppressed and exploited.
This is what (shematized) meritocracy AS A BELIEF SYSTEM looks like:
Link toward the visualizer : https://ibb.co/LR52fXJ
This is what reality (highly shematized) looks like:
Link toward the visualizer : https://ibb.co/RbT2BVk
In Blue: Economic capital
In Red: Social capital
In Green : Cultural capital
In purple: Asset accessed because of those Capitals
Meritocracy is and will always be a myth
Both are far right and conservative, genius.
That must be why there is a rise of racist and lgbtqi+ phobe and unmoderated rethorics on twitter since the buyout by Elon Musk... Weird
Well, The artistic director seemed to be a leftist so, sounds about right. Good stuff.
Well, this will be reported. Its not better than Bob's "leftists should be killed". I do not accept to see fascist rethoric here.
Ignorance is 4k
Wrong. Nazis tried to deregulated capitalism and privatize the industry.
Extremely fallacious comparison. Most european country did it. This is a dumb comparison.
Same thing. Boartion is something done in Europe.
On the other hand, the far right (guys like you) are going against the rights of handicaped people. This is what eugenism is ignorant.
The left usually do not lie. On the other hand, I could quote you HUNDREDS of the lies of you or the far right, simply because of you macious intent or you immense ignorance on many subjects.
Unless you are talking about communist that is aiming for the dictatorship of the proletaria (so not really the type of concentration of power you are describing), the left is actually against the concentration of power. Also without the vaccines or the lock down, we would be living on top of million of bodies right now. So keep you anti-scientific and ignorant a*s out of medical discussions please. Don't make me put your head into the dirt of your previous leader and the impact of his politic.
No leftist are cheering for Hamas. On the other hand, I see a lot of rightist and far rightist like you deny the genocide done by Israel, worst.. supporting it.
Do not give moral lesson of dehumanization Trump wanabee.
How can you stay so ignorant when me and others keep on giving you valuable informations ? Its really something..
Yes, your propaganda
It literally was. its an historic and documented fact.
Ignorant.
CNN is liberal leaning progressive. Its not leaning toward leftism.
Especially Italy who is right now under a crypto fascist regime
Which doesn't mean that we are wrong on abortion.
Liberalism dominates. Not leftism. You are confusing the two Bobby.
Wrong
Not in western countries mate.
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I'm only asking questions
I probably already said this in 2016 but literally any schmunk could get elected at this point.
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Happily, I live in Paris
Can one of you Trump bootlickers explain to me in what context you can defend this man when he says that people won't have to vote any more after his reelection ?
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So..
I don't think I will, but i'm not excluding the idea. (You also have to understand that it works both way, meaning that I will also have fun with someone else, I do not think I will like to watch)
Or maybe, I'm more confident in my own sexuality that you will ever be.
The toxic injonction to work is a typical rightist thing to do. Not my jam, sorry.
Don't talk then, because you are wasting both our time.
There is a lot of ways to fight a system mate. Don't gatekeep.
There is absolutely nothing radical in what I said.. you broke your compass
Nothing surprising here.
Workers rights are workers rights. Its a very clear subject (work hours / minimal wages / union influences / Benefits / Working conditions / Working safety / Public holidays / Pregnancy discrimination acts / Right to refuse unsafe work / Disability / Unemployement wages / Social services for people who are unemplyed / Bullying and sexual harrasment / Employement standards / hirarchical abuse and legal rights of employees / Strike rights / Lay-off conditions etc..)
So, for you, preventing business owner to be paid 50 times more than their employee or simply tax to 90% certain billionaires and millionaire (thus leaving them still with Millions) to avoid inequalities ... is communism ? Noted.
Not a surprise. Genocides are generally overlooked by rightists.
Yes, somethings changed, inequalities increased and the far right multiplied.
Not a surprise either (In France, public medias are own by the state, they are the most critical of the power and the most truthfull outside of independant medias (not owned by billionnaires). Usually, if you want to create more authoristarism, you privatize all the medias. This will create a few monopoles owned by billionnaires and corporations. This will as a result shut down the influence of leftism and social rethoric and strenghten the influence of liberals and conservatists, especially the far right ones.
And look at that, that's exactly what is happening in Italy right now.
Noted
Good
I see
You are indeed not conservatist. But definitely a rightist. (there is a lot of parameters that can verify that : Your belief in meritocracy, your instant call of communism for simple social democrat politics, your lack of care for oppressions, your economic liberalism etc.
I don't think you were ever a leftist before, I think you have an idea of what leftism is, but you don't really understand it. Also, you may think you went toward rationnality but you did not because if you did, you would have gone the other way as science and researches are pointing toward the radical left and not toward the right.
Capitalism, racism, ableism and patriarchy, LGBTQIphobia and antiscientifism.
I don't have one issue, I have 6.
Again, you don't understand. Proving me wrong is extremely easy. A lot of people have done that here already.
For that, you only need reliable proof, since what I say is always backed up by evidences either scientific, politic or artistic.
The problem is that I'm on the side of the proof. So you can't convince me unless you know more than me or you have work that contradict or precise what I say. And usually, the only person that can do that are on my left and not on my right.
I'm talking to you, we have an interaction. This means that yes, I'm participating in society. Simple logic mate.
You confuse the fact of participating in society with doing labor for the economy or creating economic value. That's the mind of a capitalist. I'm sorry, but that's not very rationnal. Participating in society means participating in ONE OF its aspect, it doesn't necessarily means creating value or being productive.
Right here, I'm participating in the social aspect.
Yes, I DON'T have enough to buy everything I need.
And ? Because there is hell on the outside, does this means that I don't need to care if my house is starting to burn ?
I'm sorry, but I won't take moral lesson about inequalities from someone who don't even care about outside oppressions.
Nop, just a small part. You are projecting here.
That, is a fact, yes.
Do you really feel as I'm targeting small business owners in my rethoric here ?
A smaller Trump is still a Trump
I worked in fast food. I know what working pressure and abusive managership looks like. I also know how some people simply do not have the choice you or I might have.
So I'm choosing to find a way to support them instead of supporting those who exploit them.
Cool.
No, its red. Red because of the blood of the oppressed and exploited.
This is what (shematized) meritocracy AS A BELIEF SYSTEM looks like:
Link toward the visualizer : https://ibb.co/LR52fXJ
This is what reality (highly shematized) looks like:
Link toward the visualizer : https://ibb.co/RbT2BVk
In Blue: Economic capital
In Red: Social capital
In Green : Cultural capital
In purple: Asset accessed because of those Capitals
Meritocracy is and will always be a myth
Both are far right and conservative, genius.
That must be why there is a rise of racist and lgbtqi+ phobe and unmoderated rethorics on twitter since the buyout by Elon Musk... Weird
Well, The artistic director seemed to be a leftist so, sounds about right. Good stuff.
Well, this will be reported. Its not better than Bob's "leftists should be killed". I do not accept to see fascist rethoric here.
Ignorance is 4k
Wrong. Nazis tried to deregulated capitalism and privatize the industry.
Extremely fallacious comparison. Most european country did it. This is a dumb comparison.
Same thing. Boartion is something done in Europe.
On the other hand, the far right (guys like you) are going against the rights of handicaped people. This is what eugenism is ignorant.
The left usually do not lie. On the other hand, I could quote you HUNDREDS of the lies of you or the far right, simply because of you macious intent or you immense ignorance on many subjects.
Unless you are talking about communist that is aiming for the dictatorship of the proletaria (so not really the type of concentration of power you are describing), the left is actually against the concentration of power. Also without the vaccines or the lock down, we would be living on top of million of bodies right now. So keep you anti-scientific and ignorant a*s out of medical discussions please. Don't make me put your head into the dirt of your previous leader and the impact of his politic.
No leftist are cheering for Hamas. On the other hand, I see a lot of rightist and far rightist like you deny the genocide done by Israel, worst.. supporting it.
Do not give moral lesson of dehumanization Trump wanabee.
How can you stay so ignorant when me and others keep on giving you valuable informations ? Its really something..
Yes, your propaganda
It literally was. its an historic and documented fact.
Ignorant.
CNN is liberal leaning progressive. Its not leaning toward leftism.
Especially Italy who is right now under a crypto fascist regime
Which doesn't mean that we are wrong on abortion.
Liberalism dominates. Not leftism. You are confusing the two Bobby.
Wrong
Not in western countries mate.
This level of joblessness is crazy
