Again. Transphobia is the act of discrimination against trans people. Weither by word or by actions.

You can think you don't like trans people, but saying it or saying for example "trans women are not women", is simply transphobic. It perpetuates discriminations and makes you complicit in them.

This is not a debate.
Stating "again" while being in the wrong isn't gonna make you anymore right. Transphobia is the discrimination of trans people based on fear. Please stop misusing it. There is a reason "phobia" is added at end of the word.

No you can state Trans women are not women to you and be perfectly fine. That is neither discriminatory or transphobic. Just as I can state Islam is wrong in majority of the things and be perfectly fine, which is neither discriminatory or Islamophobic.

You're correct it is not a debate, which leads me to wonder why you're trying to turn this into one, instead of accepting you were wrong and keeping it moving lol.

Yes you do.
OR
You don't talk about them or to any person about them and in that case, there is indeed no problem.
Everybody has the right to talk about any way of life whether it be religion, sexual choices, or any other things related to human life that effect not only the individual but also human society in general. That is not the equivelent of hate speech.

"I don't believe transgender women are women, but simply men who're trying to be women", discussed between two individuals who're trying to have a discussion on viewpoints is not discriminatory.

Somebody yelling and or stating "fuck trans people, trans people suck, etc etc", derogatory terms directed with malice intent at transfolks is hate speech and will likely lead to discrimination.

Since you claim that you need to accept other ideas in order to not discriminate against them... then I expect you to go to the mosque regularly and pray 5 times a day, otherwise you are an Islamophobe.

Yes it does.

I do not believe, but I have no right to negate the right of other to believe or even say that others should not be able to believe.
Cool, then please provide a record of you praying on a daily basis and going to churches + temples + mosques on a regular basis to practice Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism and all other ideas... that you need to accept in order to not discriminate against them.

Not accepting something =/= negating the rights of others. You keep trying to equate two things that are separate continuously, for what reason?


We are talking about discrimination here. Meaning not accepting people for who they are.

There is no debate to have. If you depict such behavior against trans people, you are transphobic.

Period.
You're not willing to accept somebody for being transphobic... even though that's who they are. Why? Because their beliefs go against yours.

Discrimination is not the idea of not accepting people for who they are. It is showing biases towards some people over others on various basis (gender, race, sexual orientation, hair color so on and so forth) in job/systems/social settings/etc aka unjust treatment.

Correct, there is no debate to have because you're not even using terminology properly in order to have a debate, but throwing around words emotionally in aiming to defend people that need no defense from my post or the other homie's.
No. It does the opposite. Its targets specifically the discrimination in order to fight it more effectively.
Nope, it's just borderline hate speech against individuals you're targeting to create pointless arguments.

I said that you shared transphobic rethoric. Which is not exactly the same thing in the specific context that we were in.
Xione, on the other hand, was transphobic.
He didn't share any transphobic rhetoric.

You're more than welcomed to continue to call me transphobic, it matters not a single ounce to me. Since you're just throwing around terms for your weird agenda feel free to use Islamophobic, christianphobic, buddhistphobic, frenchphobic, westphobic, shintophobic, leftphobic, rightphobic any other phobic you can think of... it'll cause a big change.
 

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I can't believe people take Logiko seriously enough to be having whole debates with him and writing paragraphs about how wrong he is.
I argue with Logiko purely to entertain me when I have nothing else to do. Dude ain't worth the time to write essays about his political beliefs
Yes it's futile, but I'm happy people keep doing it cause it keeps the thread hilarious :ihaha::risiup::risitavirus:
 
Can we just agree everyone here hates French?

Even French hate other French, esp ones outside of Paris
Nope, went to France for a month, loved the people I met for the most part. The women in particular were nice, got invited to house parties, most of the dudes I met were chill as well. Probably will be going back to Paris again next year, good vibes for vacation.

Just their airports suck and filled with scammers, so initial experience might be complete shit like getting scammed for 200 euros by a taxi driver.
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Logiko said:
Are you an historian on Nazi germany?
No, but i'm from germany and had a interest in history since early childhood, so of course i read and watched a lot about Nazi Germany and plan to study history next year after some rough years in life to say the least. I'm gonna focus my study more on east asian history tho.
 
No, but i'm from germany and had a interest in history since early childhood, so of course i read and watched a lot about Nazi Germany and plan to study history next year after some rough years in life to say the least. I'm gonna focus my study more on east asian history tho.
Did he straight to ask you if you are Nazi?
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Jesus people treat the French like demons for some reason. The fuck did they do?
It is just a meme amongst the Europeans. Same as us always hating England during every football game or assuming Germans have no sense of humor
 
I can't believe people take Logiko seriously enough to be having whole debates with him and writing paragraphs about how wrong he is.
I argue with Logiko purely to entertain me when I have nothing else to do. Dude ain't worth the time to write essays about his political beliefs
On a forum full of far rightist and confused liberals, I can only take this type of contempt as a W.

Transphobia is the discrimination of trans people based on fear. Please stop misusing it. There is a reason "phobia" is added at end of the word.
You are not gonna tell someone who has been fighting against transphobia for years what it is or what its not Billy.



This include all type of rethoric destined to delegitimize trans people

No you can state Trans women are not women to you and be perfectly fine.
No its not fine. Its called a prejudice. Why ? For the exact F. reason I'm talking about just two line above:

It creates a discourse meant to delegitimize trans people.

And this is also for the moderation that has a STRONG problem recognizing transphobia here: @AL sama @Uncle Van @Natalija

I don't care if you people don't like trans people or if you think trans women are not women. You have the right to think it. Again, no one F. care.

BUT

You have no right to say it and thus delegitimize the existence of millions of people on this planet on a forum when said person could see your message !

Is that clear ?

Everybody has the right to talk about any way of life whether it be religion, sexual choices, or any other things related to human life that effect not only the individual but also human society in general. That is not the equivelent of hate speech.
Yes it is. That's what you don't realize.

You saying "A trans woman is not a woman" is like me saying that you are not a human. Its the deny and delegitimization of your existence. This is an act of DEHUMANIZATION. So yes, this is hate speech 101

Cool, then please provide a record of you praying on a daily basis and going to churches + temples + mosques on a regular basis to practice Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism and all other ideas... that you need to accept in order to not discriminate against them.
T'es bouchΓ© ou quoi ?

I just told you that I do not believe.


Not accepting something =/= negating the rights of others.
Not in the case of an identity on a social plateform where said people can see and therefore be hurt by what you say. (and don't give me the "words don't hurt" BS or I will have to tell you how I know people who almost committed suicide because of simple words.


Discrimination is not the idea of not accepting people for who they are.
This is literally what discrimination is : the action of prejudice against people because of their race, identity or believes.

Again, prejudice can come in a lot of forms.

Trust me that if you try to find excuse to be a despicable human being, we are not gonna be friend Bobby.


No, but i'm from germany and had a interest in history since early childhood, so of course i read and watched a lot about Nazi Germany and plan to study history next year after some rough years in life to say the least. I'm gonna focus my study more on east asian history tho.
Nice ! I can feel the interest !


The French Revolution ruined the world lol
Coming from you, I take that as the biggest compliment

The world was a sh*t show before that, I think ruining the world was the right thing to do.
 
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