Did Enma have Oden's haki in it?


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Yea but it's clear to me now that Oda sees Kizaru as too close to Akainu in power, to let him go all out against Luffy.

If Kizaru fell this arc against Luffy, it would confirm Oda sees him as a commander, à la Katakuri, before Luffy faces off against Akainu, the Kaidou in this situation.

This tells me two things.

1.Kizaru is probably very close to Akainu in power
2.Luffy and Akainu will fight at some point

When Kizaru vs Luffy was going down, I was thinking perhaps Akainu won't face Luffy afterall, since I couldn't see Kizaru as the Katakuri (commander) who falls in this natural progression. But now I'm quite confident that Akainu is fighting Luffy at some point, and Oda refuses to spoil that fight by having Luffy take on someone close to Akainu's level going all out.
You're coping hard

Kizaru is no match to serious Luffy
He can't even dominate g5 (no adhaki) with Saturn help

No admiral is close to FA Akainu
 
Kaidou's hard to argue against, he's too well rounded.

I don't see a good argument for someone like Shanks beating Kizaru atm, plot aside. Since FS is no longer a counter to Kizaru like I thought, it's the other way around and Kizaru seems to counter FS, which is crazy. Since even the combination of FS with Snakeman (something with as much attack speed and as many angles of attack possible) was portrayed as light work for Kizaru, you will need some incredible AOE or some sort of environmental manipulation to press this guy. Just swinging your sword around is doing nothing. It's no wonder he was able to press Rayleigh so much in such short time, s.o to Ray for hanging on.
This man coping hard

Where did luffy use fs vs Kizaru even
And Kizaru fought non serious g4 lol

He basically has Katakuri tier feats
 
It's NOT Shakespeare is exactly my point lmao

Op is incredibly simple and insanely un-subtle. Yet yall can't understand even that because of agendas...

Do you see ANY damage on kizaru? He's as fresh as he was at the start of the arc. The only thing that's changed is he literally murdered his friend. Someone he considered family. And you're telling me that is not gonna affect him?

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"Fresh"
If he could get up , he'll do it like after getting rest before

Just because there's no blood =/= fresh
Kizaru suffering internal damages after each attack from Luffy
 
Yeah but most here really push their limits when it comes to their bias even you.

And Big Mom being a losing debate doesn't stop certain users still trying to hype her up and defend her like crazy.
Says a dude who pretended to like bm and kaido to be saved from yonko fans wrath

No admiral can beat linlin
They lack the AP and skills to do so
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Atlast VP speech and egghead is over.


Glad to see we are finally moving to Elbaf for another arc and another disappointment :milaugh:
No don't try to cope.


You guys swore filler yonko were the reasons why one piece Ards were Meh during yonko saga

What happened to "since filler yonko fell, One Piece will be better no"

Endgame villains ended up ruining Egghead, will ruin elbaf too and so on
 
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