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- Thread starter ArturCantSpeakJapanese
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Why are you so dishonest?
"You're attacks won't do damage..."
It's right fucking there. You keep making these cope claims without checking the manga first.
"You're attacks won't do damage..."
It's right fucking there. You keep making these cope claims without checking the manga first.
You're choosing to make an esoteric and unfounded explanation of the manga rather than accept you are wrong. That's pretty wild but I'm not surprised.
Zoro is being played for the fool and the idiot here. He's not being suave and making quick descriptions to help them fight easier. The entire chapter was a gag on Zoro.
Zoro is being played for the fool and the idiot here. He's not being suave and making quick descriptions to help them fight easier. The entire chapter was a gag on Zoro.
Luffys reaction between an actual durability monster like Pumba and the seraphim is literally night and day.
Luffy didn’t feel that super durability you’re claiming that king has, just that they keep getting back up. Zoro claims attacking them with their flames on is pointless because they’re invincible with their flames on.
And please read the official translation of 1032 “He’s not bleeding” as in he’s not currently bleeding, not that the attacks didn’t make him bleed.
You’re literally arguing the manga got retconned mid fight…
Luffy didn’t feel that super durability you’re claiming that king has, just that they keep getting back up. Zoro claims attacking them with their flames on is pointless because they’re invincible with their flames on.
And please read the official translation of 1032 “He’s not bleeding” as in he’s not currently bleeding, not that the attacks didn’t make him bleed.
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You’re literally arguing the manga got retconned mid fight…
It's strange that even attacks stronger than a simple Oni-Giri didn't draw any blood from King and he took those attacks quite well, even though they were coated with Acoc-Haki, an amplifier. This suggests that there have indeed been changes in King's skill set. In terms of comparisons between YC1s, I would say King has more endurance than Marco, and by a significant margin. After all:
Marco’s role was:
Marco’s role was:
- To fight briefly against Big Mom off-screen and ended up being overpowered and nearly killed if not for Wanda and Carrot’s intervention.
- He used his flames to heal the floor and fought against random opponents.
- Although he did fight King and Queen briefly at times, King did most of the work and completely exhausted Marco.
- Dealing with Sanji.
- Protecting the lower floor, preventing Zoro, Luffy, and others from reaching where Kaidou was (at the top of the skull).
- Battling Marco, and thoroughly exhausting him. There were many moments when Queen's attention was on Chopper and others rather than on Marco, which supports my claim that King did around 80% of the work in exhausting Marco.
- Cleaning up the entire floor after Marco was thrown aside, exhausted and on the ground.
- Going 1v1 against Zoro afterward, with his endurance still being quite intact after all of that.
I'm literally using the manga and how Oda describes Lunarian abilities. You're trying to interject YOUR headcanon about recovery or something.
Which was born from 1 panel of King having flames where he was cut and nothing else happened before or afterward.
"I've hit him with a few slashes, yet he's not bleeding!!" He's talking about generally, because we see he hasn't hit King with a few slashes all chapter, unless you count the one's King blocked. But Zoro probably isn't referring to those.
Which was born from 1 panel of King having flames where he was cut and nothing else happened before or afterward.
"I've hit him with a few slashes, yet he's not bleeding!!" He's talking about generally, because we see he hasn't hit King with a few slashes all chapter, unless you count the one's King blocked. But Zoro probably isn't referring to those.
I'm literally using the manga and how Oda describes Lunarian abilities. You're trying to interject YOUR headcanon about recovery or something.
Which was born from 1 panel of King having flames where he was cut and nothing else happened before or afterward.
"I've hit him with a few slashes, yet he's not bleeding!!" He's talking about generally, because we see he hasn't hit King with a few slashes all chapter, unless you count the one's King blocked. But Zoro probably isn't referring to those.
Which was born from 1 panel of King having flames where he was cut and nothing else happened before or afterward.
"I've hit him with a few slashes, yet he's not bleeding!!" He's talking about generally, because we see he hasn't hit King with a few slashes all chapter, unless you count the one's King blocked. But Zoro probably isn't referring to those.
“You guys soak up damage like nobody’s business!”
“True, but in my case it goes even beyond that.”
Literally nothing about being too durable to cut but that his ability to soak up damage surpasses dinosaurs and dragons
And Zoros literally saying he’s slashed him multiple times but he’s not currently bleeding. You’re just using headcanon to think Zoros saying “he’s never bled” which is just canonically false.
Again your entire argument is “Oda retconned the manga mid way through the fight.” That’s the apex of a headcanon argument.
I already seen your arguments with @ArturCantSpeakJapanese and @Sir Yasheen, I don't really give a fuck about this whole King argument, I just find it amusing.
Just like how Ndule defends Katakuri to the high heavens, you are doing the same thing with King.
Just like how Ndule defends Katakuri to the high heavens, you are doing the same thing with King.
"I've slashed him a few times yet he's not bleeding!!"
Okay, what should this mean? Because he's not specifically talking about Tatsumaki here, his choice of words is few to describe multiple attacks. And why would he expect King to bleed if he's blocking it? This is how Zoro refers to specific attack;
Okay, what should this mean? Because he's not specifically talking about Tatsumaki here, his choice of words is few to describe multiple attacks. And why would he expect King to bleed if he's blocking it? This is how Zoro refers to specific attack;
I don't care about genuine versus debates. You can say King loses to Katakuri, but I need you to understand how King actually fights.
What I will argue against is people inserting their own headcanon and then running around and pretending that's how King works. Especially with the glut of pure statements Oda has supplied us with on how Lunarians work.
What I will argue against is people inserting their own headcanon and then running around and pretending that's how King works. Especially with the glut of pure statements Oda has supplied us with on how Lunarians work.
"I've slashed him a few times yet he's not bleeding!!"
Okay, what should this mean? Because he's not specifically talking about Tatsumaki here, his choice of words is few to describe multiple attacks. And why would he expect King to bleed if he's blocking it? This is how Zoro refers to specific attack;
Okay, what should this mean? Because he's not specifically talking about Tatsumaki here, his choice of words is few to describe multiple attacks. And why would he expect King to bleed if he's blocking it? This is how Zoro refers to specific attack;
Youre trying to force this durability in despite having no proof and your entire argument is dependent on Oda retconning the fight.
Hell if Lunarian powers are durability based, why did Vegapunk force King to undergo Stamina based testing???
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Literally what you’re doing…
We agree on what he's referring to then, we just disagree on the context. Because again, Lunarians cannot heal. That's never been a product of King's kit EVER brought up.
Why is that a surprise if he's not bleeding anyways? Kaido got cut dozens of times and he wasn't perpetually bleeding from every wound?
Why is that a surprise if he's not bleeding anyways? Kaido got cut dozens of times and he wasn't perpetually bleeding from every wound?
Lunarians soak up damage more than anyone else, that points more to a healing factor allowing them to do so rather than hyper durability because if it was durability based they wouldn’t have to soak up damage because they would get 0 damage.
You’re forcing a headcanon about Kings abilities into a story when we’ve seen that headcanon doesn’t align with what we’ve actually seen.
And don’t use Kaido who has a mythical zoan devil fruit and a unique bloodline as a goal post; we know he’s an exception to everything as the WSC. I’m going off Zoros words, King has no wounds from the fight despite being slashed multiple times. He’s not bleeding from any slashes, that seems like it’s more due to the Lunarians enhanced Endurance which is often treated in one piece as a healing factor. King in his flame on state can just heal from wounds he receives in that state.
You’re forcing a headcanon about Kings abilities into a story when we’ve seen that headcanon doesn’t align with what we’ve actually seen.
And don’t use Kaido who has a mythical zoan devil fruit and a unique bloodline as a goal post; we know he’s an exception to everything as the WSC. I’m going off Zoros words, King has no wounds from the fight despite being slashed multiple times. He’s not bleeding from any slashes, that seems like it’s more due to the Lunarians enhanced Endurance which is often treated in one piece as a healing factor. King in his flame on state can just heal from wounds he receives in that state.