Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1122 Spoilers Discussion
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Some thoughts about this chapter:
1. I think this comment about Jiaga is enough to rank the guy solidly at Heavenly King level, and thus begins the confirmation that Shibashou’s absolute mad lads are Heavenly King level themselves. This is Jiaga’s equivalent of “Genpou’s mind is so great he could serve as the head of Zhao” or “Kaishibou’s brute power is on par with Renpa”. Jiaga’s physical strength is on par with Moubu’s, or at least so close that it’s hard to distinguish between them.
2. This is yet again confirmation that I was right about Moubu’s level as a general. Notice that Jiaga’s brute strength is being compared to Moubu, but we’re not going to get any quotes suggesting Jiaga is Qin6 level as a commander. This is because all of Moubu’s hype about him being the greatest offensive power in Qin history is commenting on Moubu’s abilities as a general and NOT as a single warrior. Since if Jiaga ~ Moubu and Moubu’s strength on the battlefield stemmed only from his abilities as a warrior, then that would mean Jiaga as a single commander is >= Oukotsu, Kyou, Kanmei, etc which I think we can all agree is ridiculous.
The truth is that Moubu’s offensive hype stems from his abilities as a commander and not just a warrior. Moubu broke through Rihaku’s encirclement from the inside using an army of weak old men. Ouki stated that this was a completely ridiculous feat that showed that Moubu’s knowledge of war ran deep.
Moubu shattered Kanmei’s lines with his Echelon attack. Kozen said that this feat was so incredible that it was unrealistic to believe Moubu pulled it off.
This is because what makes Moubu deadly as a general is a combination of his abilities as a warrior as well as his own knowledge of war and leadership. It is both of these factors together that make Moubu Qin 6 level. Warrior’s strength alone would only make Moubu ~ Jiaga.
Jiaga ~ Moubu as a warrior, Moubu > Jiaga as a general. I think this should no longer be controversial to anybody.
3. Okay. So I’m trying not to get too excited for Shibashou, especially because I think I’ll turn 40 before the guy swings his Glaive…but I really don’t see any way around us getting some kind of Shibashou > Moubu statement if Jiaga is already being compared to Moubu. How is Hara going to draw shit like this:
And then outright have a credible source state that Jiaga ~ Moubu, and not expect us to wonder if Shibashou actually is supposed to be stronger than Moubu lol.
I said it once, I’ll say it again: the Three Great Heavens are the pinnacle of commander in this manga. They have their rivals but no other group of commanders has such impeccable hype. Shibashou’s little dwarf brother is being compared to Moubu right now…You guys still thinking this guy loses to Karin? Lol
Alright guys. What we thinking.
@Owl Ki @Blackbeard @SakazOuki @MarineHQ @TheKnightOfTheSea @God Buggy @Shanks @RayanOO @FutureWarrior123
1. I think this comment about Jiaga is enough to rank the guy solidly at Heavenly King level, and thus begins the confirmation that Shibashou’s absolute mad lads are Heavenly King level themselves. This is Jiaga’s equivalent of “Genpou’s mind is so great he could serve as the head of Zhao” or “Kaishibou’s brute power is on par with Renpa”. Jiaga’s physical strength is on par with Moubu’s, or at least so close that it’s hard to distinguish between them.
2. This is yet again confirmation that I was right about Moubu’s level as a general. Notice that Jiaga’s brute strength is being compared to Moubu, but we’re not going to get any quotes suggesting Jiaga is Qin6 level as a commander. This is because all of Moubu’s hype about him being the greatest offensive power in Qin history is commenting on Moubu’s abilities as a general and NOT as a single warrior. Since if Jiaga ~ Moubu and Moubu’s strength on the battlefield stemmed only from his abilities as a warrior, then that would mean Jiaga as a single commander is >= Oukotsu, Kyou, Kanmei, etc which I think we can all agree is ridiculous.
The truth is that Moubu’s offensive hype stems from his abilities as a commander and not just a warrior. Moubu broke through Rihaku’s encirclement from the inside using an army of weak old men. Ouki stated that this was a completely ridiculous feat that showed that Moubu’s knowledge of war ran deep.
Moubu shattered Kanmei’s lines with his Echelon attack. Kozen said that this feat was so incredible that it was unrealistic to believe Moubu pulled it off.
This is because what makes Moubu deadly as a general is a combination of his abilities as a warrior as well as his own knowledge of war and leadership. It is both of these factors together that make Moubu Qin 6 level. Warrior’s strength alone would only make Moubu ~ Jiaga.
Jiaga ~ Moubu as a warrior, Moubu > Jiaga as a general. I think this should no longer be controversial to anybody.
3. Okay. So I’m trying not to get too excited for Shibashou, especially because I think I’ll turn 40 before the guy swings his Glaive…but I really don’t see any way around us getting some kind of Shibashou > Moubu statement if Jiaga is already being compared to Moubu. How is Hara going to draw shit like this:
And then outright have a credible source state that Jiaga ~ Moubu, and not expect us to wonder if Shibashou actually is supposed to be stronger than Moubu lol.
I said it once, I’ll say it again: the Three Great Heavens are the pinnacle of commander in this manga. They have their rivals but no other group of commanders has such impeccable hype. Shibashou’s little dwarf brother is being compared to Moubu right now…You guys still thinking this guy loses to Karin? Lol
Alright guys. What we thinking.
@Owl Ki @Blackbeard @SakazOuki @MarineHQ @TheKnightOfTheSea @God Buggy @Shanks @RayanOO @FutureWarrior123
While I agree that its possible that the Gorosei are stronger then Kaido, using a blast that does no damage to anything isnt the way to compare things lol.
There was nothing to survive because it does no damage, VA and the like didnt die from it.
The blast merely cancelled their summoning. Saturn remained on the island.
There was nothing to survive because it does no damage, VA and the like didnt die from it.
The blast merely cancelled their summoning. Saturn remained on the island.
Well you already know what a beast Moubu is, but when this dude...
(My fav character and his pathetic death was the reason I dropped Lingdom) was introduced, a random nobody from the Ousen army compared his strength to Moubu,see below...
Now when this panel dropped the entire Kingdom community called out the bluff and that Moubu would neg diff this guy since Hara always compares high tiers with Top tiers in certain stats which never means they're truly equal.....except Lee took it literal and actually thought they're equal as stated in the post from @SakazOuki
L'ee will forever remain a clown for that 😭
(My fav character and his pathetic death was the reason I dropped Lingdom) was introduced, a random nobody from the Ousen army compared his strength to Moubu,see below...
Now when this panel dropped the entire Kingdom community called out the bluff and that Moubu would neg diff this guy since Hara always compares high tiers with Top tiers in certain stats which never means they're truly equal.....except Lee took it literal and actually thought they're equal as stated in the post from @SakazOuki
L'ee will forever remain a clown for that 😭
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