Powers & Abilities Haki Compression

[ImmaIvanoM]

So we’ve learned that you can change the shape of your CoC blasts into physical dimensions, expanding and compressing them at will.

This supports an idea I had since seeing Garp’s Galaxy impact

The idea here is that Garp’s CoC punch is different from Luffy’s specifically because Garp can control the shape and size of his CoC.

Yes Luffy can also do these kinds of barrier punches but there was no defined shape when he did it, it was just an encompassing barrier that surrounded his fist and seemingly only changed size according to size of his fist.

It seems the next level of CoC usage straight up Shape manipulation of CoC.

This then opens up a number of avenues regarding WHAT SHAPES can be made. For example, can you Shape your CoC into a SHARP Shape?

I mean what’s stopping you from making a CoC blade right? Just do Garp’s Galaxy Impact but instead of a large sphere, made it a THIN LINE, we basically have ourselves Cutting CoC

We already know from Kaido that you can Coat your body with CoC defensively the way CoA is used as an armor. So basically you can do a CoC armor around your body, what would happen if you CHANGED THE SHAPE of your CoC armor surrounding your body?

Introducing

COAT yourself in CoC armor and then CHANGE ITS SHAPE into blades and arms and heads, You get Ashura.

 

[Moegara]

So we’ve learned that you can change the shape of your CoC blasts into physical dimensions, expending and compressing them at will.

This supports an idea I had since seeing Garp’s Galaxy impact

The idea here is that Garp’s CoC punch is different from Luffy’s specifically because Garp can control the shape of and size of his CoC.

Yes Luffy can also do these kinds of barrier punches but there was no defined shape when he did it, it was just an encompassing barrier that surrounded his fist and seemingly only changed size according to size of his fist.

It seems the next level of CoC usage straight up Shape manipulation of CoC.

This then opens up a number of avenues regarding WHAT SHAPES can be made. For example, can you Shape your CoC into a SHARP Shape?

I mean what’s stopping you from making a CoC blade right? Just do Garp’s Galaxy Impact but instead of a large sphere, made it a THIN LINE, we basically have ourselves Cutting CoC

We already know from Kaido that you can Coat your body with CoC defensively the way CoA is used as an armor. So basically you can do a CoC armor around your body, what would happen if you CHANGED THE SHAPE of your CoC armor surrounding your body?

Introducing

COAT yourself in CoC armor and then CHANGE ITS SHAPE into blades and arms and heads, You get Ashura.

Zoro has been among a handful of the strongest since Enies Lobby, crazy.

I'm trying my best not to be immature about these statements.

Garp can control the shape of and size of his CoC.

For example, can you Shape your CoC into a SHARP Shape?

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Zoro

Oda retconed something about “advanced haki” post time skip… Pre time skip it seemed like ALL the advanced haki techniques were just regular techniques anyone could do.

The first armament users we got were the Boa sisters, and Sentomaru, who both used ADVANCED ARMAMENT casually like it’s a regular technique you can just use… and make no mistake, these guys are WEAKLINGS… Then in Marineford Luffy casually just saw the future so it turns out you can just use ADVANCED OBSERVATION whenever

I think Oda didn’t really think much about who should have what level of haki then… but when post time skip started, he realized he could NOT give Luffy and the crew these abilities off rip so he locked them behind “ADVANCED”… Suddenly these abilities that weaklings were using pretty casually pre time skip are now reserved for like 400 chapters after the time skip and require dedicated training arcs

Oda didn’t think these abilities were a big deal pre time skip hence why Zoro has them. It’s post time skip when Oda decided that actually it would be better to gatekeep some of these abilities, that’s when he decided all that about “Amongst the strongest”

An example of this is Zoro unlocking ADVANCED ARMAMENT in fucking Alabasta… Zoro cutting steel was now retconed into being Advanced Armament in Wano yet it was just a seemingly basic technique back in Alabasta when it was just introduced… all of a sudden in Wano, Oda is telling us it’s this high level ability that even Luffy doesn’t have

 

[nik87]

No. Asura was explained to be the evolution of humanity.
Haki compression is more like a stepping stone towards Black Blades.

 

[Moegara]

Oda retconed something about “advanced haki” post time skip… Pre time skip it seemed like ALL the advanced haki techniques were just regular techniques anyone could do.

The first armament users we got were the Boa sisters, and Sentomaru, who both used ADVANCED ARMAMENT casually like it’s a regular technique you can just use… and make no mistake, these guys are WEAKLINGS… Then in Marineford Luffy casually just saw the future so it turns out you can just use ADVANCED OBSERVATION whenever

I think Oda didn’t really think much about who should have what level of haki then… but when post time skip started, he realized he could NOT give Luffy and the crew these abilities off rip so he locked them behind “ADVANCED”… Suddenly these abilities that weaklings were using pretty casually pre time skip are now reserved for like 400 chapters after the time skip and require dedicated training arcs

Oda didn’t think these abilities were a big deal pre time skip hence why Zoro has them. It’s post time skip when Oda decided that actually it would be better to gatekeep some of these abilities, that’s when he decided all that about “Amongst the strongest”

An example of this is Zoro unlocking ADVANCED ARMAMENT in fucking Alabasta… Zoro cutting steel was now retconed into being Advanced Armament in Wano yet it was just a seemingly basic technique back in Alabasta when it was just introduced… all of a sudden in Wano, Oda is telling us it’s this high level ability that even Luffy doesn’t have

I agree.

I have been saying for a long time that we saw future sight on Marineford and on Skypiea. It is now treated like something beyond basic CoO that almost no one has, but it was "just CoO/Mantra" when it was first introduced. Enel is fine, but freaking Satori who lost to pre-Gears Luffy and Sanji?

Anyway, that Oda changed his mind during the timeskip and chose to gatekeep makes sense, because these advanced abilities did go from common to rare, because "having haki" went from rare to common.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

No. Asura was explained to be the evolution of humanity.
Haki compression is more like a stepping stone towards Black Blades.

No, the way Joyboy used haki compression is nothing like whatever headcanon people have about black blades

Joyboy made a a PHYSICAL HAKI BOMB… Then he kept it from exploding by wrapping it inside a rope… This isn’t “putting haki in a sword” or whatever… if Joyboy haki compressed a haki bomb into a sword, the sword would explode

 

[Cruxroux]

The idea here is that Garp’s CoC punch is different from Luffy’s specifically because Garp can control the shape and size of his CoC

Garp focus more on Projection instead of Close encounter.
Like Rayleigh showed us Advanced Armanent for the first time.
They project instead of just short distance no touch attack.

 

[ShadowStyle369]

Great idea… I had a similar thought about a week ago when me and a friend were talking and I had come to the realization that ashura was coc haki use. I had a thought that if ashura was zoro shaping his coc haki what if the nika panel with him holding the lance/sword is him doing the same thing maybe this will be luffy ashura form

 

[nik87]

No, the way Joyboy used haki compression is nothing like whatever headcanon people have about black blades

Joyboy made a a PHYSICAL HAKI BOMB… Then he kept it from exploding by wrapping it inside a rope… This isn’t “putting haki in a sword” or whatever… if Joyboy haki compressed a haki bomb into a sword, the sword would explode

Actually it is exactly like some headcanons about black blades which says that Kokutos are perma imbued with haki...
The only difference is that they arent coated but have haki stored inside of them, but on a more advanced level than this Joyboy's thing.

Dont ride a hype train, Joyboy's rope is nothing special, a plot element to be used once and for no good reason even.
It means it only serves one thing, to hint at something else - stepping stone towards a black blade.

Storing haki inside objects sounds exactly like part of forging a weapon black.

 

[zenox]

haki compression is something u think rootbeer would say

but now its in the manga

 

[ShadowStyle369]

haki compression is something u think rootbeer would say

but now its in the manga

Maybe rootbeer was right all along

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Actually it is exactly like some headcanons about black blades which says that Kokutos are perma imbued with haki...
The only difference is that they arent coated but have haki stored inside of them, but on a more advanced level than this Joyboy's thing.

Dont ride a hype train, Joyboy's rope is nothing special, a plot element to be used once and for no good reason even.
It means it only serves one thing, to hint at something else - stepping stone towards a black blade.

Storing haki inside objects sounds exactly like part of forging a weapon black.

I know Jouboy’s rope isn’t special… I’m saying Joyboy DID NOT put haki INTO THE ROPE… he wrapped the rope AROUND a haki bomb

It’s fine wto continue theorizing about whatever black blade headcanon you had, just that what Joyboy did has nothing to to do with that

The rope doesn’t have “perma haki” or whatever… The rope is wrapped around a Haki attack. That’s all

 

[nik87]

he wrapped the rope AROUND a haki bomb

Where is this coming from?

 

[ShadowStyle369]

Where is this coming from?

Look at the rope a part is hanging with the bit above it. When the rope gets undone there is still slack in the rope. I would think the bomb is in between the knot and the loop wouldn’t u think ? Plus we see haki lightning on the loop part of the rope

 

[nik87]

Look at the rope a part is hanging with the bit above it. When the rope gets undone there is still slack in the rope. I would think the bomb is in between the knot and the loop wouldn’t u think ? Plus we see haki lightning on the loop part of the rope

I don't think this is a bomb or anything...
It is just release of haki stored inside the rope.
We will see if Oda will ever bring this up or never mention it again.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Where is this coming from?

Because Joyboy said he’s putting a haki attack inside emeth and the rope was opened and a haki attack came out

It’s a 1 to 1… Emeth not have the ability to access a little of the haki or turn Joyboy’s CoC haki into Armament haki… No… Joyboy compressed a haki bomb and then a haki bomb exploded 800 years later

 

[CbShadow]

No, the way Joyboy used haki compression is nothing like whatever headcanon people have about black blades

Joyboy made a a PHYSICAL HAKI BOMB… Then he kept it from exploding by wrapping it inside a rope… This isn’t “putting haki in a sword” or whatever… if Joyboy haki compressed a haki bomb into a sword, the sword would explode

If it's a powerful weapon it wouldn't break. The mini databook talked about how Kaido and WB could channel their haki/power through their weapon because of the strength/hardness/durability of their weapon.

This tells us one of the benefits to possessing strong/hard/durable wepaons is they can handle a lot of power being channelled through the weapon without it breaking.

I believe one of the main purposes to a black blade is, is can handle an unlimited amount of power being channelled through it without it breaking.

Actually it is exactly like some headcanons about black blades which says that Kokutos are perma imbued with haki...
The only difference is that they arent coated but have haki stored inside of them, but on a more advanced level than this Joyboy's thing.

Dont ride a hype train, Joyboy's rope is nothing special, a plot element to be used once and for no good reason even.
It means it only serves one thing, to hint at something else - stepping stone towards a black blade.

Storing haki inside objects sounds exactly like part of forging a weapon black.

I think the skilled Joyboy displayed by storing his haki in the rope is needed to create a black blade. The difference is how it's being applied and outcome.

With Joyboy method it keeps it haki properties, can be used at any time but can only be used once.

With a black blade it loses haki properties in exchange turning the blade into the hardest substance in One Piece.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

This tells us one of the benefits to possessing strong/hard/durable wepaons

Mihawk said any sword can become a black blade

So there’s no such thing as a requirement that the sword is already hard and then it can become a black blade

I don’t know if I’m explaining this properly to you guys.

Again Joyboy didn’t put haki into the rope… Joyboy wrapped the rope around a haki attack… there’s a difference

 

[Rootbeer]

So we’ve learned that you can change the shape of your CoC blasts into physical dimensions, expanding and compressing them at will.

This supports an idea I had since seeing Garp’s Galaxy impact

The idea here is that Garp’s CoC punch is different from Luffy’s specifically because Garp can control the shape and size of his CoC.

Yes Luffy can also do these kinds of barrier punches but there was no defined shape when he did it, it was just an encompassing barrier that surrounded his fist and seemingly only changed size according to size of his fist.

It seems the next level of CoC usage straight up Shape manipulation of CoC.

This then opens up a number of avenues regarding WHAT SHAPES can be made. For example, can you Shape your CoC into a SHARP Shape?

I mean what’s stopping you from making a CoC blade right? Just do Garp’s Galaxy Impact but instead of a large sphere, made it a THIN LINE, we basically have ourselves Cutting CoC

We already know from Kaido that you can Coat your body with CoC defensively the way CoA is used as an armor. So basically you can do a CoC armor around your body, what would happen if you CHANGED THE SHAPE of your CoC armor surrounding your body?

Introducing

COAT yourself in CoC armor and then CHANGE ITS SHAPE into blades and arms and heads, You get Ashura.

I think it's just Garp flowing CoA in an AdCoC layer creating a huge bubble..

haki compression is something u think rootbeer would say

but now its in the manga

Isn't AdCoC compressing your CoC into a physical invisible Barrier?..

 

[MonochromeYoru]

COAT yourself in CoC armor and then CHANGE ITS SHAPE into blades and arms and heads, You get Ashura.

Zoro has been among a handful of the strongest since Enies Lobby, crazy.

Lmao zoro fans really wanna push this angle?

Cause its a surefire way to invite a fuck ton of insane slander lmao

So zoro needed acoc to beat ennies lobby kaku?