Powers & Abilities It is over for the Devil Fruit users.

Are DF merchants screwed?

  • Yes, of course they are.

  • No, hopium is strong.


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nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#1
DF merchants have been living on borrowed time for way too long and it is finally time to face the music.
The consequences of choosing the easy way out and taking shortcuts to power by eating fruits that grant abilities that others instead of them have dreamt up into reality have been swept under the rug all this time but there is no more space under the rug. It is about to pop!

We have been gradually spoonfed into this realization that DF merchants are helpless in front of hakimen.

It all started on the rooftop with haki passively stopping DF hax abilities, just those abilities that would make a lol diff scenarios possible.

Then, in Winner Island, we have upgraded to active usage of haki stopping DF hax abilities, harmful lingering effects like Doc Q's...

All of that was still fine and DF merchants were still sleeping thinking they were safe...
Enter the last chapter and the worst nightmare any DF merchant could have imagined has become a reality!

The funny part is that this isn't even new information, as we have already seen it before but we had no idea or weren't sure about it.
Welcome to the age of bitter truth for DF merchants:

Emeth released the haki from the knot, Shanks released haki from Gryphon. In both cases, same result - complete negation of DF ability.
The end is near and now it all makes sense why ultimate hakimen are saved for last.

The most important conclusion - Devil Fruit's abilities cannot manifest in front of gathered strong haki.

Second most important conclusion - DF merchant can never be a final villain. It has to be someone with racial ability that haki cannot neg.
Third most important conclusion - DF merchants cannot possibly be #1 of the universe, they are not the true representatives of Power.

This is why Imu trembles at Joyboy's haki, because his ability was useless against him, as hax as it might be.
This is why Whitebeard is "equal" to Roger, because Gura does not work. At the top, all you have are weapons and haki. DFs do not matter.

I seriously hope that Luffy, Blackbeard and Imu never get to face a hakiman without plot armor as it would expose them to the whole world.
If Oda can have Luffy not fight swordsmen for 27 years, he should also manage to keep them safe from hakimen for a couple of years more.
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#6
Well said.
Tbh it was obvious since Chapter 2
Luffy recruits those He needs, now People realize what's Zoro's Role in the Crew
He is there to make up for Luffy's Reliance on DF that cannot take him far

Actually, what if that's the reason DF Users can't go to Laugh Tale, cuz there is Haki in there that doesn't just Disable DFs, it can Kill them
That's why Luffy needs a Vice Captain who can fix this Problem, just like every other Crew Member fix other Problems
 
#13
Dfs and haki are isomers of willpower. Neither one is truly above the other, Roger the haki god could not challenge the true god without a df.
I don’t get why people ignore the fact that the story is about dreams, and DFs are quite literally that. Why do they think DFs are insignificant? Because some loser silver medalist said so? Do we just take villains at their words now?
 
#15
It is so over the guy with the same df as the Mc is the one who pulled the haki feat lmao
This discussion about which power is more true (which is not new in this forum mind you) has me having flashbacks to the times of when I read Naruto weekly.
People were also under the impression that the manga is a videogame with a max stat cap and if you had Sharingan or something like that you were less skilled in other attributes :kobeha:
 
#16
Yes, indeed. Haki is so dominant, that Hakimen go toe to toe and even surpass people who have both top tier Haki and a top tier DF. That's why Roger matched Whitebeard, as his DF basically wasn't too relevant, that's also why Luffy will match Blackbeard with (most likely) 3 top tier DF on top of having his own Haki, with one of the DFs nerfing Luffy's fruit, forcing him to rely more on Haki.

Just let DFless Primebeard with his Haki face hakiless Primebeard with his DF and you will understand how large the difference is.
 
#19
No swordsman is stronger than Kaido!!! Get that stupid fantasy out of your head, Nik!!!!! There is a reason only Joyboy could win like Kaido predicted and like how the ultimate sword wall flame on King agreed.
 
#20
I don’t get why people ignore the fact that the story is about dreams, and DFs are quite literally that. Why do they think DFs are insignificant? Because some loser silver medalist said so? Do we just take villains at their words now?
They are forgetting VP’s words that DFs were willed into existence. We have not yet reached the iceberg of df lore, haven’t even seen logia awakening and whatnot.
 
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