Powers & Abilities It is over for the Devil Fruit users.

Are DF merchants screwed?

  • Yes, of course they are.

  • No, hopium is strong.

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Roo

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kekaro said:
This discussion about which power is more true (which is not new in this forum mind you) has me having flashbacks to the times of when I read Naruto weekly.
People were also under the impression that the manga is a videogame with a max stat cap and if you had Sharingan or something like that you were less skilled in other attributes :kobeha:
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Lmao that’s a good way of putting. People here really limit themselves with that line of thinking. There’s literally nothing stopping character from achieving the peak of both haki and df powers

It will be funny if the thing Roger told Shanks was “we don’t have the DF”, it will cause all the haki sisters to lose their shit
 
nik87

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
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#23
#23
Roo said:
It is so over the guy with the same df as the Mc is the one who pulled the haki feat lmao
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Man legit missed Shanks...
Man legit missed that Joyboy is the one who probably willed that ability into existence...

kekaro said:
Yet we never saw a "pure haki man" defeat a top tier with a strong DF in 1200 chapters, curious:choppawhat:
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Easy, because we have never seen a real hakiman fight yet.
All of them are saved up for the finale.
Only Zoro has been giving us a little taste of what a true Power looks like.


park_min young said:
Roger the haki god could not challenge the true god without a df.
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Huh?

Roo said:
Why do they think DFs are insignificant?
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Because we just saw haki literally remove DF abilities of 4 top tiers?
Because Shanks did the same in Wano?

JDragon20 said:
Only manifesting your own df power is safe :myman:
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I suspect that as well. :myman:

Terminall said:
There is a reason only Joyboy could win.
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There is a reason why a guy stronger than Kaido's top 5 isn't among Kaido's top 5. :milaugh:
 
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Heart pirate

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#24
#24
This is the first breath of life hakiman have had in decades relax lol. Theyve got a hell of a hole to dig out of!!!

Crazy part about the DF/haki war.
That we just left an arc, where a rookie awakened DF user(Law). Shown offensively massively superior to multiple advanced haki users within his generation, as well as Top tier(Kaido/Luffy/Meme/Yamato). Even after adding DF to the users, you might be able to name 3 attacks remotely comparable.

Yet crazy enough people will tell u Wano. Where haki gain a leg up on DF users lmao.
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Roo

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#26
#26
park_min young said:
They are forgetting VP’s words that DFs were willed into existence. We have not yet reached the iceberg of df lore, haven’t even seen logia awakening and whatnot.
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The truth is both go hand in hand

DFs are dreams
Haki is willpower

Both are equally important to the themes of story, which is why joyboy and Luffy have both
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nik87 said:
Man legit missed Shanks...
Man legit missed that Joyboy is the one who probably willed that ability into existence...


Easy, because we have never seen a real hakiman fight yet.
All of them are saved up for the finale.
Only Zoro has been giving us a little taste of what a true Power looks like.



Huh?


Because we just saw haki literally remove DF abilities of 4 top tiers?
Because Shanks did the same in Wano?


I suspect that as well. :myman:


There is a reason why a guy stronger than Kaido's top 5 isn't among Kaido's top 5. :milaugh:
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Shanks, the guy who literally hunted the Nika fruit LMAO
 
Pringles

Pringles

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#27
#27
There ain't such a thing as "hakiman", this is a stupid concept

Everyone fights with something while using haki

Swordsmen fight with their swords but top ones use haki and it's only haki that can bring them at top 1

Devil Fruit users fight with their devil fruit abilities but top ones use haki and it's only haki that can bring them at top 1

Fist users fight with their fist but top ones use haki and it's only haki that can bring them at top 1

Whether you use a sword, a devil fruit, a fist, or literally a pencil to fight, it is only haki that can bring you at top 1

That is what Kaido literally meant

Can you be stronger by having a strong devil fruit or a strong sword? Of course but haki is what prevails and what makes you top 1
 
Juanpiz

Juanpiz

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#32
SakazOuki said:
Main character is a DF merchant
Main pirate antagonist is a DF merchant
Main marine antagonist is a DF merchant
Main government antagonists have some form of DF power
WSM was a DF merchant
WSC was a DF merchant
You are kidding yourself with this thread
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If you would ask Random people what they associate with OP df would be one of the first things they respond
 
Ven437

Ven437

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#37
#37
Haki can’t save you from being K-Roomed or getting hit by this attack


hedera__helix said:
It was already spoonfed to us when Kaido said Haki surpasses all

People tried to cope saying that was just his opinion as if he didn’t use Roger as an example

Roger wouldn’t have been able to reach the top if Kaido wasn’t telling the truth
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Btw Goofy and Kaido’s ultimate attacks were DF-based, a giant punch vs a magma dragon
 
kekaro

kekaro

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#38
Roo said:
Lmao that’s a good way of putting. People here really limit themselves with that line of thinking. There’s literally nothing stopping character from achieving the peak of both haki and df powers

It will be funny if the thing Roger told Shanks was “we don’t have the DF”, it will cause all the haki sisters to lose their shit
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Its extra funny because especially the Z boys have some severe case of cognitive dissonance after Wano
Despite saying oda is load all the time and their headcanons don't come true they are under the impression he writes according to their system.

You really need to be not actively paying to the story to come out of an arc that showed us multiple things that no one could explain with Devil Fruits or Haki (like Kuma or Sanji) and ending with a devil fruit user pulling out a haki feat that dwarfs what people were creaming over themself till this day where no "2 hakimen" this day did (splitting the sky with 2 people) to come the conclusion:

"Yeah DF merchants are finished :sanmoji:"


The fucking funniest thing is the more DF and inherited Will (haki) get tied together the less this thesis becomes more likely

It literally got worse over time than better for this thesis :kobeha:
 
SakazOuki

SakazOuki

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#39
Juanpiz said:
If you would ask Random people what they associate with OP df would be one of the first things
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The entire story revolves around devil fruit powers
Joyboy who was a devil fruit user has by far the strongest haki showing, surpassing non devil fruit users
This killed all the delusion of devil fruit users having limited haki powers
The list is showing by itself, Whitebeard reigned supreme over people like Shanks Garp and Roger
 
mly90

mly90

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#40
This goat will always stand at the top no matter how much they deny it. Without a crew or relying on df he reached very top forged kokuto feat only one other man in history pulled off centuries ago. When his own student is showing most advanced version of haki to date he still keeps chasing after Mihawk shadows you know he is in entirely different realm :finally:

After latest chapter let's see how hard they go after Imu we know all fandoms united to target the goat for simply asking a valid question
 
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