Bougya AdvCoC is colorful lightning

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

Actually if you push the thought further it's bad for Zoro.. Y'all are saying Oden was an AdCoC user and he was in his prime, so he would of been a master at AdCoC, and he should have used full Red CoC coating Lightning instead of Black Red Lightning if he had AdCoC.. This sort of prove that Enma and KoH are not AdCoC but CoA all along..

Ok read this its directly from Oda himself about Oden and Roger

Now relax with the Oden does not have it and Roger using Divine Departure isn't AdvCoC. Even if you say he was talking about Roger not Oden then check mate buddy Divine Departure is AdvCoC.

Colors means nothing. You either have it or not. Now that Oda have confirmed your FEAR about Oden and Roger's Divine Departure being a AdvCoC attacks.

Go with the flow follow Zoro's panels one by one.

Zoro : use all haki = fodders knocked out = CoC confirmed - Blades covered in lightning like Luffy/Kaido/Roger/Oden/WB.

Now the above line is in bold font is a fact from the manga and that happened you can't say its wrong.

Now go sleep



Are you going to Deny Oda's own words now?

 

[æFaye]

A bet imply there was something a stakes.. If you mean we bet on being right or wrong, then ok..

So from my understanding so far, there are no coherent logic with the colors, either all characters have AdCoC or they all don't.. So it doesn't make sense and i reject the official colored manga..

My stance is Zoro still doesn't have AdCoC either way.. And my reasoning for that didn't stand only on colors so..

Reject Oda too

 

[Galahad]

You're simply disingenuous, you want me to answer a rhetorical question.. Now if you don't have a point, i will just assume
that you're defeated and are trying to troll.. Go ahead..

Seeing as you're a coward who can't answer a simple question for fear of your super color theory going to shit, then I'll have to play hardball.

Yes, in that image and all the images from when Luffy wakes up from the blow until he falls into the sea, Luffy is using AdvCoC, I don't care what level. Both Luffy himself and Kaido confirm it.

So let's take that image as a reference point for an AdvCoC attack and analyze the colors as you like.

If we are 100% sure that there is AdvCoC and there are colored + black rays... Then we have to assume that Colored + Black Rays = AdvCoC. Let's apply that criteria to other characters.

In that image, we can see the same colored + black rays, in the same direction as Luffy's and bigger than Luffy's.

So now you have two options and only two options, don't get sidetracked:

1- You accept that Zoro has AdvCoC
2- You accept that colors are useless.

Which one do you choose? Or are you not going to answer this question either? Although not answering would mean proving me right

 

[Rootbeer]

Why are you paying attention to this mental guy? He will never admit that he is wrong, even if oda himself tell him.

I said 2 times in this thread and somewhere else that i was wrong about AdCoC lightning being only '' Red ''..

Ok read this its directly from Oda himself about Oden and Roger

Now relax with the Oden does not have it and Roger using Divine Departure isn't AdvCoC. Even if you say he was talking about Roger not Oden then check mate buddy Divine Departure is AdvCoC.

Colors means nothing. You either have it or not. Now that Oda have confirmed your FEAR about Oden and Roger's Divine Departure being a AdvCoC attacks.

Go with the flow follow Zoro's panels one by one.

Zoro : use all haki = fodders knocked out = CoC confirmed - Blades covered in lightning like Luffy/Kaido/Roger/Oden/WB.

Now the above line is in bold font is a fact from the manga and that happened you can't say its wrong.

Now go sleep



Are you going to Deny Oda's own words now?

You think this argument hasn't been used already?..

You need base CoC to use Great Grade Blades and above's CoA powers to their full extent..

CoC =/= AdCoC

Actually it's impossible for Roger's Kamusari to have been AdCoC.. Because Roger was a Master AdCoC user, and using Black Red Lightning for AdCoC is inefficient and unskillful.. So Kamusari was mostly a CoA attack in conjunction with base CoC..

Reject Oda too

Actually that Chapter Color Spread is drawn by Oda so i don't reject it..

Seeing as you're a coward who can't answer a simple question for fear of your super color theory going to shit, then I'll have to play hardball.

Yes, in that image and all the images from when Luffy wakes up from the blow until he falls into the sea, Luffy is using AdvCoC, I don't care what level. Both Luffy himself and Kaido confirm it.

So let's take that image as a reference point for an AdvCoC attack and analyze the colors as you like.

If we are 100% sure that there is AdvCoC and there are colored + black rays... Then we have to assume that Colored + Black Rays = AdvCoC. Let's apply that criteria to other characters.

In that image, we can see the same colored + black rays, in the same direction as Luffy's and bigger than Luffy's.

So now you have two options and only two options, don't get sidetracked:

1- You accept that Zoro has AdvCoC
2- You accept that colors are useless.

Which one do you choose? Or are you not going to answer this question either? Although not answering would mean proving me right

Great, you finally made your point..

You can't tell from colors that AdCoC is being used, Zoro is Black Green, Luffy is Black Red, Jinbei is Black Blue..

In Luffy's instance we can tell cause he's not touching and the trails pattern, either forward lightning while charging or 4 trails following the point of impact or heavy thickness like Kaido and Kinemon..

With the unmastered, mastered AdCoC, you can logically deduce that Oden wielding Enma like feather was strictly CoA and not AdCoC..
Or we need to assume that Oden's AdCoC was trash just so Zoro can still potentially have AdCoC when he doesn't..

 

[CbShadow]

In Vivre card it states haki color is black.

All haki is black and Oda add the color for visual effect and to make the scene more colorful.

 

[Rootbeer]

In Vivre card it states haki color is black.

All haki is black and Oda add the color for visual effect and to make the scene more colorful.

That's a nice speculation.. Unfortunately we can't be certain of the validity of the Vivre Cards or the Official Colors either so..
Especially when the Vivre Card is contradicting itself..

Also i could make the argument that all Haki lightning is Black CoA + a unique Color and when perfected AdCoC is being used the Black CoA is CoC color Coated.. So both being Black and Purple could be true in a sense..

 

[comrade]

 

[CbShadow]

That's a nice speculation.. Unfortunately we can't be certain of the validity of the Vivre Cards or the Official Colors either so..
Especially when the Vivre Card is contradicting itself..

Also i could make the argument that all Haki lightning is Black CoA + a unique Color and when perfected AdCoC is being used the Black CoA is CoC color Coated.. So both being Black and Purple could be true in a sense..

That is information coming from official One Piece source. That's more reliable than you who continued to change argument everytime you are proven wrong.

Let me know when you have official One Piece information that tells us a character's haki strength or skill is determined by the color.

 

[Galahad]

Great, you finally made your point..

You can't tell from colors that AdCoC is being used, Zoro is Black Green, Luffy is Black Red, Jinbei is Black Blue.

Perfect, this is what I wanted. It took more than two years to prove that "Galileo" was wrong when he suggested that colors mean something in a black and white manga.

Well, since we assume that colors are worthless, then we have to find another visual effect that identifies the AdvCoC.

In Luffy's instance we can tell cause he's not touching and the trails pattern, either forward lightning while charging or 4 trails following the point of impact or heavy thickness like Kaido and Kinemon..

With the unmastered, mastered AdCoC, you can logically deduce that Oden wielding Enma like feather was strictly CoA and not AdCoC..
Or we need to assume that Oden's AdCoC was trash just so Zoro can still potentially have AdCoC when he doesn't..

Let's start with the no touching since YOU have suggested it. And let's do the same exercise, let's apply it to other characters to see what happens...

In this image, we know that there is 100% AdvCoC because that's when Luffy learned.

And you yourself are saying that in Kaido's attack on Kinemon there is AdvCoC. And yet, in both we see how the club does touch.

Now I present you with two other options and you can only choose one of the two:

1- The AdvCoC has nothing to do with hitting without touching.
2- In those images, in which the manga makes it clear that there is AdvCoC and even in the one in which you yourself have admitted that there is AdvCoC, there really isn't any.

Which option do you choose?

Right now I don't care about the level, I just want to find the visual effect that identifies the AdvCoC and serves to explain all the situations that we know have AdvCoC.

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

You think this argument hasn't been used already?..

You need base CoC to use Great Grade Blades and above's CoA powers to their full extent..

CoC =/= AdCoC

Actually it's impossible for Roger's Kamusari to have been AdCoC.. Because Roger was a Master AdCoC user, and using Black Red Lightning for AdCoC is inefficient and unskillful.. So Kamusari was mostly a CoA attack in conjunction with base CoC..

No No what are you talking about here

Divine Departure is an attack + CoC so its AdvCoC attack.

Don't spout nonsense here.

 

[Cross_Marian]

"the official colors didn't fit my agenda, so I denounce them just like I denounced the anime"

all those years waiting for this?

Rootbeer is the prime example

 

[Rootbeer]

The Cover of Shonen Jump isn't made by Oda, and that lightning is meaningless too, it's not coming from Luffy's fist nor Kaido's Kanabo..

That is information coming from official One Piece source. That's more reliable than you who continued to change argument everything you are proven wrong.

Let me know when you have official One Piece information that tells us a character's haki strength or skill is determined by the color.

When you have an official statement from Oda that Vivre Cards are valid, i will acknowledge them..

Perfect, this is what I wanted. It took more than two years to prove that "Galileo" was wrong when he suggested that colors mean something in a black and white manga.

Well, since we assume that colors are worthless, then we have to find another visual effect that identifies the AdvCoC.

They may or may not be completely meaningless.. The fact remains that Luffy's AdCoC was Black Red at first and now since he mastered it it's only Red, Red CoC coated CoA Black Red Lightning..

Let's start with the no touching since YOU have suggested it. And let's do the same exercise, let's apply it to other characters to see what happens...

In this image, we know that there is 100% AdvCoC because that's when Luffy learned.

And you yourself are saying that in Kaido's attack on Kinemon there is AdvCoC. And yet, in both we see how the punch does touch.

Now I present you with two other options and you can only choose one of the two:

1- The AdvCoC has nothing to do with hitting without touching.
2- In those images, in which the manga makes it clear that there is AdvCoC and even in the one in which you yourself have admitted that there is AdvCoC, there really isn't any.

Which option do you choose?

Right now I don't care about the level, I just want to find the visual effect that identifies the AdvCoC and serves to explain all the situations that we know have AdvCoC.

There's no touch AdCoC and touch AdCoC.. What's your point..

No No what are you talking about here

Divine Departure is an attack + CoC so its AdvCoC attack.

Don't spout nonsense here.

Divine Departure is definitely not an AdCoC attack.. It's CoA 95% + CoC 5%..

 

[comrade]

The Cover of Shonen Jump isn't made by Oda, and that lightning is meaningless too, it's not coming from Luffy's fist nor Kaido's Kanabo..

It is emitted from Luffy's fist by the looks of it. Also, the colored manga isn't made by Oda, so your point? Even the vivre card has color patterns deviating from the colored manga.

 

[Rootbeer]

It is emitted from Luffy's fist by the looks of it. Also, the colored manga isn't made by Oda, so your point? Even the vivre card has color patterns deviating from the colored manga.

Yeah, we don't need to argue over the colored manga, it may very well be fake.. It's just fun to entertain the thought that Kaido hasn't shown Black Purple Lightning and Luffy was Black Red Lightning at first then it's only Red when using AdCoC..

And no it's not coming from Luffy's fist, it's just acting as a divider for Luffy and Kaido..

 

[Akai2]

I can't wait for tonight's episode. Folks gonna be zooming in on Galaxy impact with their color frequency chart and shit

 

[Rootbeer]

I can't wait for tonight's episode. Folks gonna be zooming in on Galaxy impact with their color frequency chart and shit

I will have to catch a clip on the forum cause i don't watch the Anime anymore..

 

[Akai2]

I will have to catch a clip on the forum cause i don't watch the Anime anymore..

Don't worry my GOAT I'll be sure to send you a clip. We need your analysis

 

[Cruxroux]

Divine Departure is definitely not an AdCoC attack.. It's CoA 95% + CoC 5%..

Roger adding 5% Conqueror to 95% Armanent attack.

 

[Galahad]

They may or may not be completely meaningless.. The fact remains that Luffy's AdCoC was Black Red at first and now since he mastered it it's only Red, Red CoC coated CoA Black Red Lightning.

You can't have everything in this life. As I've already shown you, either the colors don't matter or you have to admit that Zoro has AdvCoC. I repeat that right now I don't care about the levels, I just want to establish a visual pattern to determine when there is AdvCoC.

There's no touch AdCoC and touch AdCoC.. What's your point..

Ok, I agree that there are touch AdvCoC and non-touch AdvCoC. Two questions then:

- How do we identify the AdvCoC when it hits?
- Is there any specific point that justifies why sometimes the AdvCoC touches and other times it doesn't touch?

 

[Akai2]

Divine Departure is definitely not an AdCoC attack.. It's CoA 95% + CoC 5%..

I'm laughing so hard at this. You're a fucking legend bro