General & Others The admirals are not Sakazuki’s all star equivalent

[Sir Yasheen]

That is an absolutely terrible comparison - Marco has regen, which is nothing you can simply by pass without turning his DF off. Marco can literaly fight anybody no matter how much stronger they are than him, he will simply regen until he runs out of stamina. But that doesn't put him on that level.

That didn’t stop Garp

 

[Hiragaro]

That didn’t stop Garp

Stop what? Knock Marco off the sky? So what? Marco stil regenerated lol
You are comparing Apples with Oranges here.
Marco was healing even from Akainu's Magma, so based on your logic Aokiji > Akainu?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Stop what? Knock Marco off the sky? So what? Marco stil regenerated lol
You are comparing Apples with Oranges here.
Marco was healing even from Akainu's Magma, so based on your logic Aokiji > Akainu?

Marco was given a nasty bruise from that one punch that didn’t instantly heal.

And Marco never got hit directly from Sakazukis attacks?

 

[Hiragaro]

Marco was given a nasty bruise from that one punch that didn’t instantly heal.

''Nasty Bruise''
Yeah oh my god!!! Look at the bruise!!! lmao
A bruise is no serious damage and it was never seen again.

And Marco never got hit directly from Sakazukis attacks?

They did?

 

[MegaSpider]

Sanji didn't fight Kaku. He bubbled him then later clashed vs Kizaru, Nasjuro and Mars. 2 of the 3 are opponents Luffy fought this arc.

Also Oda set up Sanji vs Kizaru this arc, like Zoro vs Fujitora in Dressrosa.

It's honestly a good time for characters to somewhat catch up with Luffy anyways. Would be absurd if Eos Luffy could low dif characters like Mihawk and Rayleigh.

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

The Roger's wings could push an admiral to high/extreme diff but Luffy's wings who will surpass Roger's won't be able to defeat an admiral?

This is shounen 101 the new gen surpasses the old gen

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''Nasty Bruise''
Yeah oh my god!!! Look at the bruise!!! lmao
A bruise is no serious damage and it was never seen again.

They did?

You can see the bruise in the second image you posted

 

[Sir Yasheen]

''Nasty Bruise''
Yeah oh my god!!! Look at the bruise!!! lmao
A bruise is no serious damage and it was never seen again.

They did?

Again that shows that hits can do damage against Marco while his regen is up, let alone it proves Kuzans punches would be able to do so.

And that’s Marco blocking with his flames, that’s not a direct hit like Kizaru got against him.

Kizaru ain’t on Kuzans and Sakazukis level.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

The admirals are not just Sakazuki’s equivalent of kaido’s all stars. They’re actually top tiers comparable to him not just fodder subordinates

In no world are luffy zoro and sanji having high diff+ solo fights against admirals at the same time. Unless Sakazuki becomes insanely strong to the point the admirals are fodder to him surpassing every known character or all of sudden the admirals bec

If Sakazuki happens to be a main arc antagonist for luffy it is significantly more likely that the gap between zoro and sanji’s opponents in comparison to Sakazuki is the same as it was in onigashima and egghead

Aka
Kaido >>>>> king > queen
Kizaru >>>>> lucci > kaku
Sakazuki >>>>> zoro opponent > sanji opp

If luffy can keep fighting characters relative to kaido and kizaru which akainu is zoro can fight characters relative to king and lucci and sanji to queen and kaku

Even against Blackbeard it’s not like zoro is going to fight Kuzan he’s going to have to deal with shiryu. A character even zoro fans don’t like putting above king (despite the fact he is)

By the time zoro and sanji do actually matchup against actual top tiers luffy’s opponents are still going to be significantly stronger

Wrong. Zoro and Sanji definitely facing Admirals.

after elbaf, we will get new marineford. luffy will come to save barto, jozu and law from execution. he will defeat akainu. zoro and sanji might only stalemate fujitora and kizaru. or perhaps ivankov and the bellobetty make them strong enough to win. they won't have to, they just want to free the captives.

Wrong. They'll defeat the Admirals.

 

[MegaSpider]

Either Akainu is above the 3 admirals by quite a bit.

Or Akainu gets beaten in Elbaf, then next arc Kizaru gets promoted to fleet admiral, and Sanji vs Kizaru while Zoro fights Mihawk.

The Wings next arc/saga opponents have always been above Luffys previous arc/saga villain.

Mr 1 and 2 compared to Mr 3.
Jyabura and Kaku compared to Alabasta Croc and Blueno.
King and Queen compared to Kakakuri.

Soon the same compared to Kaido.

 

[HellBlazer04]

This is shounen 101 the new gen surpasses the old gen

Wrong. Zoro and Sanji definitely facing Admirals.
Wrong. They'll defeat the Admirals.

 

[Hiragaro]

Again that shows that hits can do damage against Marco while his regen is up, let alone it proves Kuzans punches would be able to do so.

And that’s Marco blocking with his flames, that’s not a direct hit like Kizaru got against him.

Kizaru ain’t on Kuzans and Sakazukis level.

Jesus christ...
Again really slow for you - Marco takes damage, but his DF HEALS him. It was said black on white the first time he blocked Kizaru's lasers. He got hurt, but heals back up.

And here i found a great picture where it shows it really well, how Marco takes damage and only starts healing once he activates his fruit. What you stil think a fucking bruise is > than 2 holes in his body and him spiting blood?
Kizaru did the most damage to Marco on panel than anybody ever.

You are just to stubborn to accept that your comparison is nonsense and doesn't proof anything.
Marco is > Jozu and his DF allows him to fight anybody, something that Jozu's Fruit doesn't.

It's like comparing Smoker to Enel, because Luffy couldn't beat Smoker, but beat Enel. Enel is way stronger than Smoker.

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

The Roger's wings could push an admiral to high/extreme diff but Luffy's wings who will surpass Roger's won't be able to defeat an admiral?

This is shounen 101 the new gen surpasses the old gen

There's no proof Gaban can push an Admiral to high/extreme diff. Maybe he'd be troublesome to them in the way Marco and Jozu were to Kizaru and Aokiji.

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

There's no proof Gaban can push an Admiral to high/extreme diff. Maybe he'd be troublesome to them in the way Marco and Jozu were to Kizaru and Aokiji.

Basic story telling already garuntees it

 

[Sir Yasheen]

There's no proof Gaban can push an Admiral to high/extreme diff. Maybe he'd be troublesome to them in the way Marco and Jozu were to Kizaru and Aokiji.

Damn imagine thinking someone Roger calls one of his best men who was willing to fight Kozuki Oden is similar to Marco…

 

[MUUGEN]

The admirals are not just Sakazuki’s equivalent of kaido’s all stars. They’re actually top tiers comparable to him not just fodder subordinates

In no world are luffy zoro and sanji having high diff+ solo fights against admirals at the same time. Unless Sakazuki becomes insanely strong to the point the admirals are fodder to him surpassing every known character or all of sudden the admirals bec

If Sakazuki happens to be a main arc antagonist for luffy it is significantly more likely that the gap between zoro and sanji’s opponents in comparison to Sakazuki is the same as it was in onigashima and egghead

Aka
Kaido >>>>> king > queen
Kizaru >>>>> lucci > kaku
Sakazuki >>>>> zoro opponent > sanji opp

If luffy can keep fighting characters relative to kaido and kizaru which akainu is zoro can fight characters relative to king and lucci and sanji to queen and kaku

Even against Blackbeard it’s not like zoro is going to fight Kuzan he’s going to have to deal with shiryu. A character even zoro fans don’t like putting above king (despite the fact he is)

By the time zoro and sanji do actually matchup against actual top tiers luffy’s opponents are still going to be significantly stronger

the admirals are YC equivilant, lizaru went down in one shot to an admiral. 2 admirals couldnt contain the damage the Revos did in mariejoi, one admiral wasnt enough to bypass old ray one admiral couldnt even capture a single SN on Saboady, 1 admiral had an extreme diff sided fight to a sick and dying yonko.

Lucci>>Lizaru

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Basic story telling already garuntees it

No it doesn't. Only Rayleigh has any confirmation he was on that level.

Damn imagine thinking someone Roger calls one of his best men who was willing to fight Kozuki Oden is similar to Marco…

Roger and Whitebeard were near equals, so it'd make sense the heavy hitters are in the same vicinity of strength with Oden and Rayleigh being outliers.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

No it doesn't. Only Rayleigh has any confirmation he was on that level.



Roger and Whitebeard were near equals, so it'd make sense the heavy hitters are in the same vicinity of strength with Oden and Rayleigh being outliers.

Roger and Whitebeard were, the crews were never stated to be comparable.

 

[Hiragaro]

You can see the bruise in the second image you posted

I never denied it?
A bruise is no serious damage and the bruise was never seen after that panel.

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Roger and Whitebeard were, the crews were never stated to be comparable.

The crews fought to a standstill in Oden's flashback.

 

[Shiroyru]

No it doesn't. Only Rayleigh has any confirmation he was on that level.



Roger and Whitebeard were near equals, so it'd make sense the heavy hitters are in the same vicinity of strength with Oden and Rayleigh being outliers.

You really think Teen Marco = Scopper Gaban?