General & Others The admirals are not Sakazuki’s all star equivalent

[Monkey D. Luffy]

You really think Teen Marco = Scopper Gaban?

Either him or Jozu.

 

[Shiroyru]

Either him or Jozu.

There’s no way you’re this dense. So Scopper Gaban is YC4 level at best?

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

There’s no way you’re this dense. So Scopper Gaban is YC4 level at best?

Around YC1 or 2.

 

[Shiroyru]

Around YC1 or 2.

Marco and Jozu were literally kids back then

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Marco and Jozu were literally kids back then

Lol, 19, the same age where Luffy beat Kaido and became a Yonkou.

 

[Shiroyru]

Lol, 19, the same age where Luffy beat Kaido and became a Yonkou.

The designs speak for themselves. You can tell just by looking at them that they weren’t in their primes yet

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

The designs speak for themselves. You can tell just by looking at them that they weren’t in their primes yet

The crews fought to a standstill, and even if that doesn't suffice because it was a friendly brawl, my point about Gaban not being top tier stands because there's zero proof he's such.

 

[Shiroyru]

The crews fought to a standstill, and even if that doesn't suffice because it was a friendly brawl, my point about Gaban not being top tier stands because there's zero proof he's such.

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

If you have to go with "but they're next to each other" panels, you don't have real arguments.

 

[Shiroyru]

If you have to go with "but they're next to each other" panels, you don't have real arguments.

You got a better explanation for why Oda paired them together?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

The crews fought to a standstill, and even if that doesn't suffice because it was a friendly brawl, my point about Gaban not being top tier stands because there's zero proof he's such.

No way a YC1 which is pretty much a joke in terms of the big names pirates is one of the best men of the pirate king…

 

[Shiroyru]

No way a YC1 which is pretty much a joke in terms of the big names pirates is one of the best men of the pirate king…

We all know that Gaban gets downplayed because Gaban hate is Sanji hate by proxy

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

You got a better explanation for why Oda paired them together?

Either you're stupid or this is willful ignorance. They're Roger's top two men.

 

[Shiroyru]

Either you're stupid or this is willful ignorance. They're Roger's top two men.

Yeah, and it’s not like Oda has a history of portraying top 2 subordinates as rivals…

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Yeah, and it’s not like Oda has a history of portraying top 2 subordinates as rivals…

Or a history of making one stronger than the other.

 

[Shiroyru]

Or a history of making one stronger than the other.

No one ever denied that Ray is stronger than Gaban. The point is that Gaban is only a little weaker than Ray, who was Yonko level, so Gaban certainly isn’t YC1 level

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I personally hope it's not Law/Kidd. Oda won't give these fights nearly the attention it'd get, if they fought Zoro/Sanji.

That is true

but also, we’re in the final saga

Oda can’t give everyone tons of attention.

The admirals are to Imu what Kid and Law are to Luffy.

Gorosei and HK vs SHs = Imu’s direct subordinates vs Luffy’s direct subordinates

Admirals vs Kid and Law = Imu’s top allies vs Luffy’s top allies

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

That is true

but also, we’re in the final saga

Oda can’t give everyone tons of attention.

The admirals are to Imu what Kid and Law are to Luffy.

Gorosei and HK vs SHs = Imu’s direct subordinates vs Luffy’s direct subordinates

Admirals vs Kid and Law = Imu’s top allies vs Luffy’s top allies

The admirals are Imu’s subordinates subordinates subordinates subordinates.

they aren’t Allie’s

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Or Luffy finally gets to win a fight without the opponent being nerfed by plot?

Which nerf Lucci received?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Which nerf Lucci received?

Would be a good point if Lucci didn’t immediately get up after the fight like it was nothing.