General & Others The admirals are not Sakazuki’s all star equivalent
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Well, yeah, I think Akainu might be rather underrated. He went 10 days vs Aokiji but that fight is a special case with them being former colleagues.
Akainus portrayal easily > any other admirals in my view
- Marineford. Tore of WBs face and took on all WB commanders at once (including Marco, Vista + ex-shichibukai Crocodile)
- Made BB run. BB, with his crew, gave up on Bonney only due to Akainu sailing up. No one else has managed this except Shanks.
I'd say Akainu, Enel and Magellan possess the 3 most devastating DF's in the entire series. They literally melt you off, stop your heart and paralyze you through poison. Given that it's fair to say the admirals are "only" the commanders of Akainu.
Akainus portrayal easily > any other admirals in my view
- Marineford. Tore of WBs face and took on all WB commanders at once (including Marco, Vista + ex-shichibukai Crocodile)
- Made BB run. BB, with his crew, gave up on Bonney only due to Akainu sailing up. No one else has managed this except Shanks.
I'd say Akainu, Enel and Magellan possess the 3 most devastating DF's in the entire series. They literally melt you off, stop your heart and paralyze you through poison. Given that it's fair to say the admirals are "only" the commanders of Akainu.
Sanji and Zoro fought/clashed the same opponents Luffy did this arc. The Seraphim, Lucci, Kizaru, the Gorosei.
They performed similarly against same opponent at times like taking same damage from Saturns Eye attack or deflecting Saturns kicks to protect Bonney.
They even looked better than him at times, like tanking hits to the face from Seraphim, actually putting down Lucci as opposed to Luffy who "beat Lucci" yet Lucci got up 30 seconds later, or blocking a laser and making Kizaru get a shocked face for the first time in the manga despite him fighting Luffy for 4 chapters earlier.
So this whole underlings must be ants compared to Luffys opponent no longer needs to apply. One thing to remember is most of the wings fights are only mid dif or high dif for them, they are usually completely fine to keep fighting afterwards while Luffy is near dead on the floor after his fight. When they do fight the admirals, it's not going to be some short fight or 1 where they go perform a side quest right after, these are gonna be their most major fights in the series with flashbacks and everything. I expect the fights to be given just as much attention as Luffys.
They performed similarly against same opponent at times like taking same damage from Saturns Eye attack or deflecting Saturns kicks to protect Bonney.
They even looked better than him at times, like tanking hits to the face from Seraphim, actually putting down Lucci as opposed to Luffy who "beat Lucci" yet Lucci got up 30 seconds later, or blocking a laser and making Kizaru get a shocked face for the first time in the manga despite him fighting Luffy for 4 chapters earlier.
So this whole underlings must be ants compared to Luffys opponent no longer needs to apply. One thing to remember is most of the wings fights are only mid dif or high dif for them, they are usually completely fine to keep fighting afterwards while Luffy is near dead on the floor after his fight. When they do fight the admirals, it's not going to be some short fight or 1 where they go perform a side quest right after, these are gonna be their most major fights in the series with flashbacks and everything. I expect the fights to be given just as much attention as Luffys.
You are really arguing in bad faith concerning Akainu, he is the most prominent villain in Luffy’s life. He killed Ace, and was the guy that changed the course of the story. Akainu vs Dragon is more likely to happen first before Sabo. Akainu vs Luffy is bound to happen, that’s one of his personal grudge matchups next to BB.
Akainu isn't fighting Luffy as main fight of any major arc
The saga is being built for Teach and Imu as two major villains.
Akainu himself isn't getting an arc dedicated to him where he's the big boss to beat unless we get Marineford arc
Luffy never said he has to beat Akainu or avenge Ace.
You guys want another Kizaru vs Luffy where the fight is a joke.
Btw Luffy after Marineford while training only promised to beat Kizaru among all Admirals
Despite learning that Akainu scarred him.
The saga is being built for Teach and Imu as two major villains.
Akainu himself isn't getting an arc dedicated to him where he's the big boss to beat unless we get Marineford arc
Luffy never said he has to beat Akainu or avenge Ace.
You guys want another Kizaru vs Luffy where the fight is a joke.
Btw Luffy after Marineford while training only promised to beat Kizaru among all Admirals
Despite learning that Akainu scarred him.
I bet against Shanks and will always bet against Shanks
Oda respecting Akainu =/= Akainu being taken down by Luffy
It's a waste of time, we know akainu can't beat Nika Luffy at max power. He has nothing to counter G5
Sabo is there to beat Akainu to avenge Ace and show that Mera can beat Megu if haki and physical stats are better
Oda respecting Akainu =/= Akainu being taken down by Luffy
It's a waste of time, we know akainu can't beat Nika Luffy at max power. He has nothing to counter G5
Sabo is there to beat Akainu to avenge Ace and show that Mera can beat Megu if haki and physical stats are better
Also the people who advertise this Sabo thing always somehow manage to forgot that if Sabo was kind of Ace 2.0 trying to avenge himself, the first target should be BB lol.
Also, Akainu wanted to kill Luffy (again), not Ace. Ace sacrificed himself for Luffy, and still:
Not mention, Sabo has own goals (the CDs), especially after the Reverie.
Also, Akainu wanted to kill Luffy (again), not Ace. Ace sacrificed himself for Luffy, and still:
Not mention, Sabo has own goals (the CDs), especially after the Reverie.
Also the people who advertise this Sabo thing always somehow manage to forgot that if Sabo was kind of Ace 2.0 trying to avenge himself, the first target should be BB lol.
Also, Akainu wanted to kill Luffy (again), not Ace. Ace sacrificed himself for Luffy, and still:
Not mention, Sabo has own goals (the CDs), especially after the Reverie.
Also, Akainu wanted to kill Luffy (again), not Ace. Ace sacrificed himself for Luffy, and still:
Not mention, Sabo has own goals (the CDs), especially after the Reverie.
Whoever dies it’s good for him lol
Obv. he wanted both dead as he wants every pirated dead, especially those very troublesome, but between Luffy and Ace he has explicitly chosen Luffy, and Ace put himself between the two:
And that very likely because he has a past with Dragon, an ex Marine, worst criminal, etc.:
No wonder It's Luffy who has the scar.
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There's already narrative for Sabo vs Akainu
Akainu is the BM of WG
No matter what happens, he got shafted to be beaten by Luffy's ally (brother) even thought he scarred Luffy
Luffy promised to beat BM thousand of times since FI yet he didn't take her down in Wano
Luffy promised to beat Kizaru ..he didn't KO him for good in this arc
Luffy has never sworn to beat Akainu and he's not not on the hunt for Akainu like Shanks does when it comes to BB
Akainu is the BM of WG
No matter what happens, he got shafted to be beaten by Luffy's ally (brother) even thought he scarred Luffy
Luffy promised to beat BM thousand of times since FI yet he didn't take her down in Wano
Luffy promised to beat Kizaru ..he didn't KO him for good in this arc
Luffy has never sworn to beat Akainu and he's not not on the hunt for Akainu like Shanks does when it comes to BB
Nothing suggests Akainu is way more powerful than the other admirals. Sure, he is stringer than then but by just a small margin: a tiny tiny bit stronger than Aokiji (beat him after a 10 days fight), most likely stronger than Kizaru by a small margin too, probably stronger than Fuji but again just by a bit.. and I hope Greenbull somewhat is clearly weaker than the others admirals otherwise one day we will have a massive meltdown somewhere, bugger than what it needs to be really. But everybody reaps what he sows.
Then about Akainu being an arc main villain at this point it is already too late. Kizaru, who basically is his equal, was a secondary antagonist in this arc compared to the 5 gorosei, even if it is true that he decided to stay down of his own volition at a certain point. But in the end Luffy was taking him and Saturn together when he was pissed so the admiral level is already behind Luffy. And it couldn't be otherwise since he dealt with Kaido the last arc.
I don't know about Sanji but Zoro, even if he actually struggled vs Lucci when Luffy didn't, is already ready to face an admiral at this point. Last arc he dealt with King and had his rooftop fight, that could already be compared to a fight with an admiral. This arc he fought Lucci (and didn't use any fancy move on screen) and then went on fighting while Lucci was spent. Anyway the next tier after the YC1 Zoro defeated in Wano is of course an admiral, or Oda could make him jump directly to yonko level like he jumped from veteran lvl Pica to YC1 King.. Admiral space is shrinking, they could keep up if they actually improved with time but that is something Oda gives only to the SHs (and BB). Some other guys like Lucci, Croco and other for sure get power uos with time but you can bet they will never again be comparable to Luffy since he already beat them (just see Luffy and Lucci).
Then about Akainu being an arc main villain at this point it is already too late. Kizaru, who basically is his equal, was a secondary antagonist in this arc compared to the 5 gorosei, even if it is true that he decided to stay down of his own volition at a certain point. But in the end Luffy was taking him and Saturn together when he was pissed so the admiral level is already behind Luffy. And it couldn't be otherwise since he dealt with Kaido the last arc.
I don't know about Sanji but Zoro, even if he actually struggled vs Lucci when Luffy didn't, is already ready to face an admiral at this point. Last arc he dealt with King and had his rooftop fight, that could already be compared to a fight with an admiral. This arc he fought Lucci (and didn't use any fancy move on screen) and then went on fighting while Lucci was spent. Anyway the next tier after the YC1 Zoro defeated in Wano is of course an admiral, or Oda could make him jump directly to yonko level like he jumped from veteran lvl Pica to YC1 King.. Admiral space is shrinking, they could keep up if they actually improved with time but that is something Oda gives only to the SHs (and BB). Some other guys like Lucci, Croco and other for sure get power uos with time but you can bet they will never again be comparable to Luffy since he already beat them (just see Luffy and Lucci).
