News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread
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Yeah, I know.
And if such a weak and unskilled swordsman can cause a damage so massive just because his target evaded, you can guess what a top tier swordsman with a black blade could do.
Do you mean the second he got serious since Fuji's style is using the sword with gravity powers, the gravity blade?
Because if you mean that they can just grab the sword for the most basic of usage and cut some random crows of Karasu then yes, they can. I suppose Zoro too could fight at the same strength as East Blue Zoro if he wants and cause almost zero collateral damage, still.
And if such a weak and unskilled swordsman can cause a damage so massive just because his target evaded, you can guess what a top tier swordsman with a black blade could do.
Do you mean the second he got serious since Fuji's style is using the sword with gravity powers, the gravity blade?
Because if you mean that they can just grab the sword for the most basic of usage and cut some random crows of Karasu then yes, they can. I suppose Zoro too could fight at the same strength as East Blue Zoro if he wants and cause almost zero collateral damage, still.
Ever since Marineford all we heard from some people are the following:
- Mihawk acknowledge he's weaker than sick WB. He didn't need to say the words he's weaker or WB is stronger for us to properly interpret the scene.
- A top tier attack would never be stopped or blocked by anybody except another top tiers.
- imagine if that was any other top tier versus Vista, they would have beat him in an instant without even trying.
Then we get the Wano and all the sudden everything changes. Now we hear the following:
- If Oda want us to know that Mihawk is stronger than Shanks he would have said he's stronger. Since he didn't use those words and only talked about sword skill he's not stronger.
- Zoro blocking a combination attack from to top tier doesn't mean anything and that wasn't a L for the top tier. They were just playing around and weren't even trying.
- It doesn't matter if Zoro bested or beat Kaido in his hybrid mode because they is now casual mode, he didn't use a single name attack, he was sandbagging, he wasn't trying, he didn't use ACoC. While we're at it we will ignore the condition Zoro was in.
Zoro blocked a combo attack from two top tier that's beyond sky splitting level. His AP scared the two top tier with the best durability and endurance in the manga. Zoro with 20 to 30 broken bones bested and beat hybrid Kaido. Yet, somehow some people refuse to accept a much stronger Zoro as top tier.
- Mihawk acknowledge he's weaker than sick WB. He didn't need to say the words he's weaker or WB is stronger for us to properly interpret the scene.
- A top tier attack would never be stopped or blocked by anybody except another top tiers.
- imagine if that was any other top tier versus Vista, they would have beat him in an instant without even trying.
Then we get the Wano and all the sudden everything changes. Now we hear the following:
- If Oda want us to know that Mihawk is stronger than Shanks he would have said he's stronger. Since he didn't use those words and only talked about sword skill he's not stronger.
- Zoro blocking a combination attack from to top tier doesn't mean anything and that wasn't a L for the top tier. They were just playing around and weren't even trying.
- It doesn't matter if Zoro bested or beat Kaido in his hybrid mode because they is now casual mode, he didn't use a single name attack, he was sandbagging, he wasn't trying, he didn't use ACoC. While we're at it we will ignore the condition Zoro was in.
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First Division commander with elemental advantage (phoenix flames cancelling homies) who stalled 2 calamities vs. Fifth Division commander.
Since we'll talk about black blades I believe I figure out what the manga means about raising a black blade rank.
There seem to be a misunderstanding when it comes to forging a black blade and raising its rank. Some think forging a blade into a black blade would take it from one class, IE: excellent grade, to a higher class, IE: superior grade. I don't believe that's what the manga was saying.
The databook said black blades are there most elite blades in the manga.
This means all black blades are above non-black blade. Forging a blade into a black blade puts it in it's own unique category that belongs only to black blades.
IE: forging an excellent excellent grade blade into a black blade won't place it a supreme grade category. Instead, it enters an elite blade category,, subcategory excellent grade. The only blades above it would be supreme grade black blades.
There seem to be a misunderstanding when it comes to forging a black blade and raising its rank. Some think forging a blade into a black blade would take it from one class, IE: excellent grade, to a higher class, IE: superior grade. I don't believe that's what the manga was saying.
The databook said black blades are there most elite blades in the manga.
This means all black blades are above non-black blade. Forging a blade into a black blade puts it in it's own unique category that belongs only to black blades.
IE: forging an excellent excellent grade blade into a black blade won't place it a supreme grade category. Instead, it enters an elite blade category,, subcategory excellent grade. The only blades above it would be supreme grade black blades.
Nah, no meltdowns. I really think he has it because in the manga was black, wasn't corrected in volume and in the OP wall was black.. If he doesn't have it, well, a shame but one can go on: I like the story of Gennai Aramaki so there is that too.
Hope you guys will be alright if he has it. And honestly, I don't get all this commotion: just hype him if he has it lol.
Oda is sick of Shanks: last time he even had to hype Shanks haki compared to Joy boy, JOY BOY.
Even BB, the one who will kill him, I am willing to bet will make an horrendous display just because even in death Oda will have to hype Shanks.
Anyway, as I said the other day:
the scene of Shanks-GB was way overhyped. Imu reacted in the same way at Joy Boy's haki, but Imu Isn't a lot weaker than Joy Boy for sure (and Shansk's haki was even hyped by the giants) and now one even tried to say It. However, with GB someone did try.
Also, opposite of Imu, GB Is over the top with his reactions, we saw this against Momo too (https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...mples-of-greenbull-acting-like-a-clown.59070/), and anyway explicitly retreated in front of Shanks' whole crew.
He said It himself and even said that It wasn't the time to fight them, not even that he wouldn't fight them period:
Kaido himself had King with him (and didn't have to deal with the mugi, Kidd and Law too) and still retreated in front of the RHP. And Shanks didn't even have a wrinkle on his shorts at MF, Kaido didn't even fazed him lol.
He Is just Oda's golden boy, even compared to Joy Boy as we saw. That + film Red promotion + Ryo being histrionic + him talking about the RHP as a whole + the already impossible situation + Kaido's past example are enough to explain what happened.
Hope you guys will be alright if he has it. And honestly, I don't get all this commotion: just hype him if he has it lol.
Oda is sick of Shanks: last time he even had to hype Shanks haki compared to Joy boy, JOY BOY.
Even BB, the one who will kill him, I am willing to bet will make an horrendous display just because even in death Oda will have to hype Shanks.
Anyway, as I said the other day:
the scene of Shanks-GB was way overhyped. Imu reacted in the same way at Joy Boy's haki, but Imu Isn't a lot weaker than Joy Boy for sure (and Shansk's haki was even hyped by the giants) and now one even tried to say It. However, with GB someone did try.
Also, opposite of Imu, GB Is over the top with his reactions, we saw this against Momo too (https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...mples-of-greenbull-acting-like-a-clown.59070/), and anyway explicitly retreated in front of Shanks' whole crew.
He said It himself and even said that It wasn't the time to fight them, not even that he wouldn't fight them period:
Kaido himself had King with him (and didn't have to deal with the mugi, Kidd and Law too) and still retreated in front of the RHP. And Shanks didn't even have a wrinkle on his shorts at MF, Kaido didn't even fazed him lol.
He Is just Oda's golden boy, even compared to Joy Boy as we saw. That + film Red promotion + Ryo being histrionic + him talking about the RHP as a whole + the already impossible situation + Kaido's past example are enough to explain what happened.
