News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread
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I think this is downplaying the ease of which he did this in, even some top tiers can show minor signs of struggle against large numbers of legit strong characters like this. Heck we even saw Kaidou getting tossed around by the scabbards for a bit, before turning the heat up. Based on how we saw Big Mom handle much weaker characters, there is no way she can replicate those feats that quickly.
And first mate interactions have always shown to be annoyances to top tiers. Marco in MF, Marco against BM in Wano. I think it came as a shock to everyone (including myself) for Greenbull to so effortlessly pack YC1 and YC2 together, like he was doing it passively almost. But maybe there was more of a struggle than implied?
Nah I thought Fujitora deserved all the slander for that.
Infact I was one of the people slandering him lmao.
I wasn't even trying to hear the restricted in MJ excuse because even if it's true, Sabo and a few good men should not have you wearing a headwrap several days after the fact when you had a fellow Admiral beside you.
Turned out Oda is a complete fucking troll. He drew this, only for Sabo to legit never cross paths with the rev, for Fuji to be fighting alongside the revs and GB to be fighting Fujitora.
He's definitely run of your mill. I don't think two top tiers Oda picked out of a hat, grown ass men he could justify finding casually living a peaceful life in the background of the verse, to fill in the vacant seats of established top tiers, will ever be anything more than that.
And first mate interactions have always shown to be annoyances to top tiers. Marco in MF, Marco against BM in Wano. I think it came as a shock to everyone (including myself) for Greenbull to so effortlessly pack YC1 and YC2 together, like he was doing it passively almost. But maybe there was more of a struggle than implied?
Nah I thought Fujitora deserved all the slander for that.
Infact I was one of the people slandering him lmao.
I wasn't even trying to hear the restricted in MJ excuse because even if it's true, Sabo and a few good men should not have you wearing a headwrap several days after the fact when you had a fellow Admiral beside you.
Turned out Oda is a complete fucking troll. He drew this, only for Sabo to legit never cross paths with the rev, for Fuji to be fighting alongside the revs and GB to be fighting Fujitora.
He's definitely run of your mill. I don't think two top tiers Oda picked out of a hat, grown ass men he could justify finding casually living a peaceful life in the background of the verse, to fill in the vacant seats of established top tiers, will ever be anything more than that.
Because the ones before looked more stoic, It doesn't mean that one more lively can't.
BB will probably rise above any BB user, and still Is an overreacting clown.
If Oda chose to give Ryo a BB when he could have given him even a normal Saijo, Is not becuse this choice is irrelevant.
A BB that wasn't forged Is irrelevant and could have been a normal blade.
Guess we are treating Yoru as non Saijo now on then.
Also, like Yoru, Ryo's blade Is already black in the manga. Just like Yoru, we are simply going to have a confirmation.
BB will probably rise above any BB user, and still Is an overreacting clown.
If Oda chose to give Ryo a BB when he could have given him even a normal Saijo, Is not becuse this choice is irrelevant.
A BB that wasn't forged Is irrelevant and could have been a normal blade.
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Guess we are treating Yoru as non Saijo now on then.
Also, like Yoru, Ryo's blade Is already black in the manga. Just like Yoru, we are simply going to have a confirmation.
Two villains that Nika is gonna have full fledged fights in the future.
One is an anomaly who eats 2 DFs and the other is a false god that secretly ruled the world for 800 years.
Once again, Aramaki is nothing special like these two.
Legit strong like who, exactly? Denjiro & Neko?
He got tossed around because he was testing them to see whether they are capable of killing him.
Turns out they weren't even capable enough to re-open the old wound Oden left and Kaidou packed them all up.
You have an entire Yonko crew openly admitting that Big Mom might kill them all going on a rampage, btw.
There's no need to headcanon feats when you have that.
You remember how Zoro was bandaged from Hawkin's nails?
Or how Sengoku was bandaged after clashing with Blackbeard off-screen in Marineford?
Bandages & bruises are completely irrelevant, especially when you don't see Greenbull right after their clash at MJ.
Yup.
One is an anomaly who eats 2 DFs and the other is a false god that secretly ruled the world for 800 years.
Once again, Aramaki is nothing special like these two.
Legit strong like who, exactly? Denjiro & Neko?
He got tossed around because he was testing them to see whether they are capable of killing him.
Turns out they weren't even capable enough to re-open the old wound Oden left and Kaidou packed them all up.
You have an entire Yonko crew openly admitting that Big Mom might kill them all going on a rampage, btw.
There's no need to headcanon feats when you have that.
You remember how Zoro was bandaged from Hawkin's nails?
Or how Sengoku was bandaged after clashing with Blackbeard off-screen in Marineford?
Bandages & bruises are completely irrelevant, especially when you don't see Greenbull right after their clash at MJ.
Yup.
Bruh, Yoru got confirmed as the strongest blade way back in Baratie. You can either interpret it as being the single strongest sword or belonging to the top tier of swords, either way its rank has been revealed in the literal manga.
Like how obtuse do you have to be for me to drop my anti-swordboi agenda mask and go to bat for this
Like how obtuse do you have to be for me to drop my anti-swordboi agenda mask and go to bat for this
Thanks Oda, now that we know the future of Aramaki we can sleep safe.
Now, we don't have any idea what future Armakai has lol, for all we know the can be Zoro's opponet in the final war (a thing I am going to push if he has a BB).
If he has a BB, It's not that you have to take you headcanon over It: you have to simply change your headcanon when manga shows something, as always.
You thought he was irrelevant and weak? Well, since he has a BB (if he has) simply accept you were wrong and move on.
Now, we don't have any idea what future Armakai has lol, for all we know the can be Zoro's opponet in the final war (a thing I am going to push if he has a BB).
If he has a BB, It's not that you have to take you headcanon over It: you have to simply change your headcanon when manga shows something, as always.
You thought he was irrelevant and weak? Well, since he has a BB (if he has) simply accept you were wrong and move on.
You're missing the ease part here. Big Mom would get tossed around like BBQ chicken by the scabbards, they would even be damaging her left and right. Eventually she would win but they wouldn't be nearly as helpless. Same thing with King and Queen, based on everything we saw with BM on panel she would eventually get the job done but not nearly with the level of ease Aramaki pulled it off with.
Run of the mill is what I believe, I don't believe he will end up the weakest given he already looks better featwise than some others we consider top tiers. There's some top tiers that would need to put more effort, and potentially take more damage than Aramaki did against the same opponents.
Run of the mill is what I believe, I don't believe he will end up the weakest given he already looks better featwise than some others we consider top tiers. There's some top tiers that would need to put more effort, and potentially take more damage than Aramaki did against the same opponents.
Still don't think he created it though. But after Kuzan the Fist coming out of nowhere, I'm not even as confident in that as I was before that reveal.
