Questions & Mysteries Will IMU or Blackbeard be the Final Villain?

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#81
At this point BB looks like side quest villain. Almost whole pre-time skip and post time skip main villain was WG. WB said that Joy Boy is not waiting BB. It's over.
 

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#82
Kaido destroyed Law and luffy poster like Imu destroyed Teach and luffy poster:goyea:
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At this point BB looks like side quest villain. Almost whole pre-time skip and post time skip main villain was WG. WB said that Joy Boy is not waiting BB. It's over.
The best case Teach will be defeated by luffy in Lafe tale. The worst case will have new rooftop where teach will be behind luffy and zoro (the new Kid):milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:
 
#83
Cool speech and verbose dialogue. But here is a single panel alone that strongly foreshadows what BB is aiming for in the face of “Gods”
How does that change anything I said? Big Mom & Kaido were also aiming for the world but that didn’t turn out so well, did it?

Blackbeard still has the same chokepoint as Luffy before he can go for anything else: the Pirate King. Both can’t share the position, so only 1 is coming out on top.
We all know who that is, so dragging the loser beyond that point is not only meaningless, it’s just disgraceful.

Any character can aim all they want at the world, but there’s only one Joyboy that can unite so many nations, crews and factions under him.

Blackbeard on the other hand’s best man is Shiryu of the Rain. There’s simply no comparison to the ruler of the WG.
 
#85
Who are you sold on personally?

Very interesting question.
Teach is the Black Hole who aims to swallow the world hole. Aside from also being based on THE Pirate among Pirates, Oda is clearly making him the foil of Luffy, the entire topic with Ace and I am not too sure but Luffy may hate him as well for what he did to Whitebeard.
You can argue he is Luffy's own personal nemesis.

Imu is the enemy of the world and history in itself or so goes the portrayal whereas Nika and Joy Boy are basically the saviours the world needs.

Hmm.
I say there is no right or wrong but a question of personal values in a story.
One is the personal Final Villain material for the protag while the other is the Final Villain for the plot itself.
 
#86
How does that change anything I said? Big Mom & Kaido were also aiming for the world but that didn’t turn out so well, did it?
BM and Kaido didn't have a decade's worth of build-up and have one of the most important presences pre-TS during MF

Blackbeard still has the same chokepoint as Luffy before he can go for anything else: the Pirate King. Both can’t share the position, so only 1 is coming out on top.
We all know who that is, so dragging the loser beyond that point is not only meaningless, it’s just disgraceful.
BB and Goofy will fight for the Pirate King position. Imu will be irrelevant by the time they have their final battle

Any character can aim all they want at the world, but there’s only one Joyboy that can unite so many nations, crews and factions under him.

Blackbeard on the other hand’s best man is Shiryu of the Rain. There’s simply no comparison to the ruler of the WG.
We got Imu and Gorosei reveal before we even got Xebec reveal, think about that

Xebec is gonna be an INSANELY important background character, and BB is already set to be his successor

Goofy is Roger's successor. These parallels aren't coincidence, and Oda is already making Imu look like a dumbass by failing to withhold several important lore reveals. Imu's downfall is already on its way

Meanwhile BB's crew is making moves, Shanks stalking BB, crew captured Garp, Devon even STOLE Saturn's appearance.

There's nothing more important than the final clash between BB and Goofy, the two final new gen figures who will rise above Buggy and Shanks of the previous generation. Egghead made this quite clear. I will bet my account on this
 
#87
My hunch is it will be Blackbeard . He will gain Imu’s power and become king of the world and luffy as King of Pirates will have to fight him .

Imu is like overarching villain more like Emperor Palaptine character he likes to control things behind the shadow .
 
#92
This throne is designed for Teach to take it.

Compare BB with his 10 titanic captains to Imu and his 10 "titanic captains" (5 Gorosei, 4 Admirals, 1 Shanks twin) and it's no contest. BBs side is just a bug compared to the WG.
Now use the same logic for SH pirates.

Also BB pirates have access to Saturn's rights now, Teach obviously isn't stupid enough to fight them all directly, he will make his move in the right time.
 
#94
At this point BB looks like side quest villain. Almost whole pre-time skip and post time skip main villain was WG. WB said that Joy Boy is not waiting BB. It's over.
I will say ….. we heard about Blackbeard in drum island which is right before Alabasta and One Piece was seemingly suppose to end in Alabasta so maybe that means something in regards to Oda having a plan for Blackbeard, but it does feel like IMU could be something bigger then Blackbeard.
 
#95
At this point BB looks like side quest villain. Almost whole pre-time skip and post time skip main villain was WG. WB said that Joy Boy is not waiting BB. It's over.
Joy Boy isn't waiting for Imu as well, Teach being a candidate for Joy Boy wouldn't change anything Luffy would eliminate other Joy boy candidates regardless.

Thats even better since Teach having a different important ancestor than Joy Boy and having different important bloodline than Joy Boy's would carry him to final and even further.
I will say ….. we heard about Blackbeard in drum island which is right before Alabasta and One Piece was seemingly suppose to end in Alabasta so maybe that means something in regards to Oda having a plan for Blackbeard, but it does feel like IMU could be something bigger then Blackbeard.
Imu sees Teach as equally dangerous as Luffy. He already knows Luffy is Joy Boy, Imu had no reason to worry about Teach being Joy Boy, Imu should've treated him like other Emperors but there is also a secret different ancestor about Teach's bloodline thats as dangerous as Joy Boy or Ancient Weapons.
 
#96
Joy Boy isn't waiting for Imu as well, Teach being a candidate for Joy Boy wouldn't change anything Luffy would eliminate other Joy boy candidates regardless.
How can Joy Boy could be waiting for Imu, when Imu killed Joy Boy? LOL
Joy Boy is waiting for someone who will defeat Imu and free the world - fulfill Joy Boy's will.
 
#97
How can Joy Boy could be waiting for Imu, when Imu killed Joy Boy? LOL
Joy Boy is waiting for someone who will defeat Imu and free the world - fulfill Joy Boy's will.
How do you know what killed Joy Boy? LMAO. You make up shit now.

Imu having PTSD from Joy Boy wifi Haki shows the possibility of Imu not killing Joy Boy at least not fair and square.

The point is you don't need to be Joy Boy candidate to be FV like you claim about Teach. You think Teach isn't FV because he isn't Joy Boy? Thats dumb, Imu knows Teach isn't Joy Boy as well still cuts his poster same as Ancient Weapon, Teach is equally big danger for Imu same as Joy Boy or Ancient Weapon. Shanks knows Luffy is Joy Boy he still think about BB all the time. Teach is the first guy to have 2 DFs, he has special ancestor different than Joy Boy.
 
#98
BM and Kaido didn't have a decade's worth of build-up and have one of the most important presences pre-TS during MF



BB and Goofy will fight for the Pirate King position. Imu will be irrelevant by the time they have their final battle



We got Imu and Gorosei reveal before we even got Xebec reveal, think about that

Xebec is gonna be an INSANELY important background character, and BB is already set to be his successor

Goofy is Roger's successor. These parallels aren't coincidence, and Oda is already making Imu look like a dumbass by failing to withhold several important lore reveals. Imu's downfall is already on its way

Meanwhile BB's crew is making moves, Shanks stalking BB, crew captured Garp, Devon even STOLE Saturn's appearance.

There's nothing more important than the final clash between BB and Goofy, the two final new gen figures who will rise above Buggy and Shanks of the previous generation. Egghead made this quite clear. I will bet my account on this
Huh? You think the WG is somehow going to be overthrown before Luffy even gets to Raftel and finds out the secret history of the world?
It’s the battle for the Pirate King that will already be over long before Imu & the WG are taken out.

Also, Imu still hasn’t been revealed yet. They’re still a silhouette even now long after their intro. Besides that, Xebec has long since been defeated while Imu has remained in charge for 800 years. The comparison just makes it all the more blatant.
Xebec couldn’t even make it past the man that wasn’t even Pirate King yet…that same Pirate King afterwards couldn’t do anything about Imu.

Besides that, we already got all of Blackbeard’s commanders too while struggling to deal with the mere likes of Law and getting dismissed by Garp.
Imu’s subordinates on the other hand had a Yonko and his crew fleeing for the hills. And we still don’t even have all of Imu’s servants like the Holy Knights revealed yet.

Also, Luffy is both Roger & Xebec’s successor. Luffy is the one that can gather the other pirates under his banner and actually succeed. Most of the offspring of the previous Rocks pirates are even already accounted for:
Katakuri, Yamato, Marco/Weevil, Hancock, Stussy. Law & Kid are there as well.

Blackbeard is a goner with just Luffy’s Pirate allies taken into account, and yet there’s still the Revolutionary Army and several nations like Elbaf, Wano, etc on Luffy’s side.
Did you think that humongous force is intended for the mere Blackbeard Pirates with Shiryu being their best man? Straight comedy!!!
 
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Huh? You think the WG is somehow going to be overthrown before Luffy even gets to Raftel and finds out the secret history of the world?
It’s the battle for the Pirate King that will already be over long before Imu & the WG are taken out.

Also, Imu still hasn’t been revealed yet. They’re still a silhouette even now long after their intro. Besides that, Xebec has long since been defeated while Imu has remained in charge for 800 years. The comparison just makes it all the more blatant.
Xebec couldn’t even make it past the man that wasn’t even Pirate King yet…that same Pirate King afterwards couldn’t do anything about Imu.

Besides that, we already got all of Blackbeard’s commanders too while struggling to deal with the mere likes of Law and getting dismissed by Garp.
Imu’s subordinates on the other hand had a Yonko and his crew fleeing for the hills. And we still don’t even have all of Imu’s servants like the Holy Knights revealed yet.

Also, Luffy is both Roger & Xebec’s successor. Luffy is the one that can gather the other pirates under his banner and actually succeed. Most of the offspring of the previous Rocks pirates are even already accounted for:
Katakuri, Yamato, Marco, Hancock, Stussy. Law & Kid are there as well.

Blackbeard is a goner with just Luffy’s Pirate allies taken into account, and yet there’s still the Revolutionary Army and several nations like Elbaf, Wano, etc on Luffy’s side.
Did you think that humongous force is intended for the mere Blackbeard Pirates with Shiryu being their best man? Straight comedy!!!
Your logic is easy to debunk as all the things you say same for SH Pirates they can't take all Imu forces as well.

Garp or Aokiji taking out Chopper or Brook equivalent of BB pirates is surprising for you now?

We didn't learn about Robin and Ohara before going to Enies Lobby, it was after Luffy arrived Enies Lobby and start fighting, learning about ancient history then fighting not going to happen, it will be learned during the Final Battles.

Same happened with Oden and Wano battles, we didn't learn that flashback during Zou or before, Luffy went to Wano and start fighting then we learned what happened to Oden and Wano.

Same will happen, we will learn the history during final battle with Imu and then Teach will join the final battle as well.
 
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