Speculations Is there a pattern here?
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Its funny, but idk about true.
You look at everything through powerscaling lenses lol.
The fact is Zoro was never going to fight Kaido again, thus Oda had him scarr him to parralel Oden.
Luffy however had all the time in the world to fight Kaido and that coupled with the fact that punches dont scar or cut made it more of a slugfest until the end.
You look at everything through powerscaling lenses lol.
The fact is Zoro was never going to fight Kaido again, thus Oda had him scarr him to parralel Oden.
Luffy however had all the time in the world to fight Kaido and that coupled with the fact that punches dont scar or cut made it more of a slugfest until the end.
What you don't understand is a simple thing, really.
Luffy's damaji is very low, that's why he beats his opponents through damage accumulation.
That's why he needed countless rounds vs Kaido plus the help of others to accumulate enough damaji.
Zoro, on the other hand, is dashing out the most damage in the show.
"We are not the same"v2.0.
Luffy's damaji is very low, that's why he beats his opponents through damage accumulation.
That's why he needed countless rounds vs Kaido plus the help of others to accumulate enough damaji.
Zoro, on the other hand, is dashing out the most damage in the show.
"We are not the same"v2.0.
What you don't understand is a simple thing, really.
Luffy's damaji is very low, that's why he beats his opponents through damage accumulation.
That's why he needed countless rounds vs Kaido plus the help of others to accumulate enough damaji.
Zoro, on the other hand, is dashing out the most damage in the show.
"We are not the same"v2.0.
Luffy's damaji is very low, that's why he beats his opponents through damage accumulation.
That's why he needed countless rounds vs Kaido plus the help of others to accumulate enough damaji.
Zoro, on the other hand, is dashing out the most damage in the show.
"We are not the same"v2.0.
Also, since Zoro isnt the main character he doesnt benefit from having prolonged and fully fleshed out fights, so this lead to him having short fights. Like Sanji.
If he was the MC Zoro would make his fights longer and give him more screentime which would impact this false sense of lethality yall have about him.
It is what it is.
The anime and manga world has plenty of MC swordsmen and guess what their fights are long.
Yeah there is no getting to you, you look at everything with powerscaling in mind when Oda doesnt care about that.
Tell me, since we know now that Zoro wasnt going to meet Kaido again when would he have replicated Odens feat?
Yeah there is no getting to you, you look at everything with powerscaling in mind when Oda doesnt care about that.
Tell me, since we know now that Zoro wasnt going to meet Kaido again when would he have replicated Odens feat?
Not in One Piece.
And we are talking One Piece.
Not others.
Oda cares a lot about power scaling, people simply don't understand it.
Who said Zoro had to replicate the feat? Why make top tiers with aCoC look so bad that a guy with CoA alone does their best feats?
Why put him up against someone even tougher than Kaido? Are you sure you noticed what Oda did there? lol
And we are talking One Piece.
Not others.
Oda cares a lot about power scaling, people simply don't understand it.
Who said Zoro had to replicate the feat? Why make top tiers with aCoC look so bad that a guy with CoA alone does their best feats?
Why put him up against someone even tougher than Kaido? Are you sure you noticed what Oda did there? lol
Because there is no MC swordsman in One Piece.
Im not saying he doesnt take it in mind its just that when it comes to choosing between narrative or powerscaling its always the narrative that wins.
Kaido did, when talking to the scabbards. He said that no other monster samurai will be like Oden. Right after they failed to even cut open his scar.
Because he wanted to give Zoro a tough fight and test him, since he wasnt going to fight Kaido anymore.
Zoro said that he was told Kaido was the thoughest guy in the world, and that he was going to cut him to pieces. Since he wasnt going to do that, Oda gave him King to cut lol.
Im not saying he doesnt take it in mind its just that when it comes to choosing between narrative or powerscaling its always the narrative that wins.
Kaido did, when talking to the scabbards. He said that no other monster samurai will be like Oden. Right after they failed to even cut open his scar.
Because he wanted to give Zoro a tough fight and test him, since he wasnt going to fight Kaido anymore.
Zoro said that he was told Kaido was the thoughest guy in the world, and that he was going to cut him to pieces. Since he wasnt going to do that, Oda gave him King to cut lol.
Doesnt change the fact that Luffy's damaji is ridiculously low.
Narrative wins, yes.
It doesn't stop him from doing power scaling well once he focuses on it.
There is no purpose in replicating Oden's feat on a character that died and cant show it off to the world.
Narratively, nobody gave any shit about Zoro replicating it. Which means it is only there to show Zoro's superiority.
He didn't need to give Zoro an opponent tougher than Kaido, he could have made him less tough than Kaido.
Instead he made sure he is on another level because Zoro's damaji is worlds ahead of Luffy's.
Yes, Oda gave Zoro the actual toughest being in the world and turned his strongest attack into a flaming dragon so ZKK is off the checklist. The challenges that Luffy and Zoro get are always vastly different and in Wano, Oda doubled down on toughness being supreme in Zoro's match-up. Toughness is the main obstacle of the arc and Zoro got to deal with the most troublesome.
Narrative wins, yes.
It doesn't stop him from doing power scaling well once he focuses on it.
There is no purpose in replicating Oden's feat on a character that died and cant show it off to the world.
Narratively, nobody gave any shit about Zoro replicating it. Which means it is only there to show Zoro's superiority.
He didn't need to give Zoro an opponent tougher than Kaido, he could have made him less tough than Kaido.
Instead he made sure he is on another level because Zoro's damaji is worlds ahead of Luffy's.
Yes, Oda gave Zoro the actual toughest being in the world and turned his strongest attack into a flaming dragon so ZKK is off the checklist. The challenges that Luffy and Zoro get are always vastly different and in Wano, Oda doubled down on toughness being supreme in Zoro's match-up. Toughness is the main obstacle of the arc and Zoro got to deal with the most troublesome.
Because hes the MC and he has long battles.
Narrative wins, yes.
Never said it wasnt the case but the narrative wanted Zoro to replicate Odens feat and so Oda had him do it, he wasnt thinking oh man this is going to make Luffy look bad and powerscaling nerds over on WG are going to use it against him.
It was meant for the viewers and Kaido himself aknowledging that it will leave a scar like Odens.
The readers did.
He gave him someone tougher because he does think Zoro is Luffys VC and close to him narratively thus Luffy defeating a complete fighter like Kaido when Zoro beats a Katakuri lvl guy isnt it, so he gave him someone tougher then Kaido to atleast have that as a feat.
Yes because Oda didnt want to follow the pattern of Zoros fight where he just lands a hit and its done, those short fights were cool but this was supposed to be the stage where the SHs become an Emperor crew so he gave him an appropriate opponent, even then the fight was kind of short as per usual.
Its like when Zoro fought Mr 1 and had the crew graduate from EB lvl pirates to big grandline boys.
Narrative wins, yes.
Never said it wasnt the case but the narrative wanted Zoro to replicate Odens feat and so Oda had him do it, he wasnt thinking oh man this is going to make Luffy look bad and powerscaling nerds over on WG are going to use it against him.
It was meant for the viewers and Kaido himself aknowledging that it will leave a scar like Odens.
The readers did.
He gave him someone tougher because he does think Zoro is Luffys VC and close to him narratively thus Luffy defeating a complete fighter like Kaido when Zoro beats a Katakuri lvl guy isnt it, so he gave him someone tougher then Kaido to atleast have that as a feat.
Yes because Oda didnt want to follow the pattern of Zoros fight where he just lands a hit and its done, those short fights were cool but this was supposed to be the stage where the SHs become an Emperor crew so he gave him an appropriate opponent, even then the fight was kind of short as per usual.
Its like when Zoro fought Mr 1 and had the crew graduate from EB lvl pirates to big grandline boys.
You think Kaido was defeated because of damaji?
He barely had any damaji at the moment of his defeat.
The man has a recovery stat that erases any damaji done.
He was defeated because his stamina pool expired.
And that was taxed by literally everything and everything includes taken damaji, his own effort of dishing out attacks as well as lifting a freaking island the whole time.
Glad we established that MC has nothing to do with low damaji.
There is healing panchis gang and then there are proper swordsmen where Zoro sits on top.
He barely had any damaji at the moment of his defeat.
The man has a recovery stat that erases any damaji done.
He was defeated because his stamina pool expired.
And that was taxed by literally everything and everything includes taken damaji, his own effort of dishing out attacks as well as lifting a freaking island the whole time.
Glad we established that MC has nothing to do with low damaji.
There is healing panchis gang and then there are proper swordsmen where Zoro sits on top.