Controversial General Political Discussion

[Brush D. Teeth]

Indeed. Ideology should come after fact.

Problem : There is one side that refuse to see facts VS one side that know the facts.

And currently the first one is the one in power is the majority of the world. So the second is acting on ideology to push the first one to accept the facts.

Facts: Dems want to crush our economy and make war in Europe.
Ideologies: Kamela is female so she's less likely to make war.

 

[Logiko]

Wow. You are 100% right.

Nop. I'm 100% left.

Facts: Dems want to crush our economy and make war in Europe.
Ideologies: Kamela is female so she's less likely to make war.

Again.. you didn't even notice that I included Harris in the "politician who think that showing their big c*cks is enough to deal with international relationships".

In other words, Trump had Harris are similar in term of imperialism, they just have different interests.

What we need are leftists that won't jump at the first occasion to wage war.

 

[Mathias]

Someone tried to shoot the orange man AGAIN

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Again.. you didn't even notice that I included Harris in the "politician who think that showing their big c*cks is enough to deal with international relationships".

In other words, Trump had Harris are similar in term of imperialism, they just have different interests.

What we need are leftists that won't jump at the first occasion to wage war.

If you care about facts over ideologies you gotta work with what you have, we only have these two or rather the establishments behind them. Only one of the two is more likely to fan the flames of war in Europe.

 

[Logiko]

If you care about facts over ideologies you gotta work with what you have, we only have these two or rather the establishments behind them. Only one of the two is more likely to fan the flames of war in Europe.

Currently, none of the people in power (beside some country here and there) have facts behind them.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Currently, none of the people in power (beside some country here and there) have facts behind them.

One openly talks about exacerbating the conflict, the other talks about withdrawing from it.

 

[AL sama]

Someone tried to shoot the orange man AGAIN

I can't help but laugh even tho its no laughing matter

 

[Mathias]

I can't help but laugh even tho its no laughing matter

It's really becoming a running-gag

 

[Logiko]

One openly talks about exacerbating the conflict, the other talks about withdrawing from it.

By letting Russia invade Ukraine and thus completely stomping on human rights. Yeah... I get what kind of side your are on.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

By letting Russia invade Ukraine and thus completely stomping on human rights. Yeah... I get what kind of side your are on.

Usa and Ukraine also stomp on human rights so whatever. Be honest and say you are for direct military intervention and WWIII.

 

[Logiko]

Usa and Ukraine also stomp on human rights so whatever. Be honest and say you are for direct military intervention and WWIII.

Not really no.

Does avoiding a potential WWIII means - for you - to let Russia invade Ukraine ? To give more Weapon to Israel ? To promote US interventionnism in South American elections ? Etc.

 

[Starbound Beast D. Draig]

Someone tried to shoot the orange man AGAIN

Damn these Swifties are some crazy m0th3rfuck3rs

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Not really no.

Does avoiding a potential WWIII means - for you - to let Russia invade Ukraine ? To give more Weapon to Israel ? To promote US interventionnism in South American elections ? Etc.

Probably avoiding war in the EU is enough for now, at least for us. For the other wars we will do what we can.

 

[Logiko]

Probably avoiding war in the EU is enough for now, at least for us

So.. letting Russia invade Ukraine and destroying the human rights of Ukrainians ?

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

So.. letting Russia invade Ukraine and the destroying the human rights of Ukrainians ?

Russia has invaded two years ago, I will assume you mean let Russia keep most of the territories? Yeah, I honestly can't see another way to stop the war.

 

[Logiko]

Russia has invaded two years ago, I will assume you mean let Russia keep most of the territories? Yeah, I honestly can't see another way to stop the war.

You do understand that Russia will not stop with the current territories, right ?

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

You do understand that Russia will not stop with the current territories, right ?

That is your assumption. Peace talks must be held and both parts should stop expanding (not a meme like the Minsk agreements).

 

[Ravagerblade]

lol C4N living in his own fantasies.

 

[Indigo]

You do understand that Russia will not stop with the current territories, right ?

can they even get past the current ones? they are still struggling

 

[Logiko]

That is your assumption. Peace talks must be held and both parts should stop expanding (not a meme like the Minsk agreements).

No no. This is not an assumption. This is a conclusion based on the words of Putin himself and his imperialist ideology.

The same way we can say that Netanyahou wants to prepare Gaza for the colonization, we can say the same for Putin.

lol C4N living in his own fantasies.

Sure

can they even get past the current ones? they are still struggling

Obviously since we are giving weapons to Ukranians.. Stop doing that and Russia will be stronger.