Questions & Mysteries Problem with Nami, Usopp, Chopper vs BB Pirate matchups

[Erkan12]

Nami, Chopper and Usopp are still too weak to match up with their BB pirates opponents.

Navigator matchup Laffitte: can infiltrate Marineford without getting detected, possibly has DF that help him fly. He dodged Ace's Hiken. Can hypnotize people, Teach trusts him to spy on Revolutionaries and Government. He is also stronger than 140 million Bonney before Time skip, since Teach said Bonney is too weak to join his crew that means even the weakest Pre-TS BB pirate > Bonney.

Doctor matchup Doc Q: Can one-shot people who can't use Advance Armament Haki, if Law's Haki wasn't upgraded after Wano, Law would get one-shot by Doc Q. His horse also has Ancient Pegasus Zoan and he can fly like Laffitte as well.

Sniper matchup Augur: Can beat Cracker biscuits according to anime, obviously played a huge role while kidnapping Pudding from BM pirates. He dodged Saturn's attack easily. He could shot targets from an island thats not even seen, which is another crazy feat.

It make no sense Nami, Usopp and Chopper matching up with these guys in any near future unless they get very powerful with new power ups.

Obviously Nami, Usopp and Chopper are never fighting 5 Elders so their opponents from Government or their roles vs Government battle won't be big.

All these make me think BB pirates matchups should be Final Battle for SH pirates, where Nami, Chopper and Usopp will be at peak of their EoS power, peak of their potential otherwise they have no chance vs BB pirates.

 

[Monkey D Monkey]

Ussop, Nami, and Chopper will be much weaker but they are designed as ideal foils to beat Van Auger, Laffite, and Doc Q.


Ussop’s Coo will allow him to snipe Van Auger even after he teleports an island away.

Laffite seems to be some type of bird who would be very vulnerable to wind and lightning. Mirage tempo can be used to avoid hypnotism.

Chopper is a top doctor so he’ll be able to cure Doc Q’s illnesses without needing Haki.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Choppers fighting a horse so he’s fine tbh.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

All 3 of those people are going to get stronger. Ussop will definitely get a PU this arc too. Nami has her climatic that allows her to do many things. Also we don't know the matchups exactly

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Choppers fighting a horse

And its rider.

 

[Welkin]

That’s what Elbaf is for

Imo the weakling trio will jump the most in power this arc

Usopp = CoC, possible DF, Mjolnir, improved haki

Chopper = haki, new form (awakening?)

Nami = Crack theory but if Big Mom left any homies in Elbaf there’s a chance Nami could obtain them

The mid trio won’t get much

And the M3 will probably get a decent boost

 

[SkySanji]

Nah it just means half of Blackbeard's crew are as fodder as half of the Straw Hat's crew are.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Plot >>

And we do not know how powerful laffite is.

Auger's anime feats are non canon.

 

[nik87]

Navigator matchup Laffitte

Wrong. Nami's matchup is Devon. Laffite vs Brook.

Doctor matchup Doc Q: Can one-shot people who can't use Advance Armament Haki, if Law's Haki wasn't upgraded after Wano, Law would get one-shot by Doc Q. His horse also has Ancient Pegasus Zoan and he can fly like Laffitte as well.

What about changing Law's gender is equal to one-shot?
There is no damaji from that, other than weaker body.
Which doesn't matter to Chopper's points.

Sniper matchup Augur: Can beat Cracker biscuits according to anime, obviously played a huge role while kidnapping Pudding from BM pirates. He dodged Saturn's attack easily. He could shot targets from an island thats not even seen, which is another crazy feat.

Usopp has CoO and pretty good one at that so whatever Augur does, Usopp will dodge it.

All these make me think BB pirates matchups should be Final Battle for SH pirates, where Nami, Chopper and Usopp will be at peak of their EoS power, peak of their potential otherwise they have no chance vs BB pirates.

They will be after WG and probably final crew battle.
That doesn't mean other SH members like Zoro and Luffy wont have battles after BBPs.

 

[Cruxroux]

I think said this in some spoiler discussion.
How BB pirates works , They divide and conquer.

We might not even see SHP vs BBP in the same place...
Trio can get help from like Killer / Bepo / revolutionary.

 

[Salah WG]

I don't think SHs vs BB Pirates gonna be like Fights We are used to
It will mostly be about how to stop a Criminal from Killing Everyone

Oda didn't give Doc Q Disease DF so that He has a 1v1 with Chopper
His Threat should be about making an entire Population Sick

Van Augur can shoot from Huge Distance, such Sniper isn't gonna Endanger Usopp Alone
Same for Pizarro who is literally an entire Island

Catarina Devon's DF also only works if She is tricking an entire group of People, not 1v1 against Nami
Same for Laffitte and his Hypnosis or Burgess and his Herculean Strength or Sanjuan with his Size

Even Shiryu was Introduced as someone who enjoys Killing & Backstabbing
He can't have a Zombie Ryuma vs Zoro-Like Duel, He needs to be a Bloodthirsty Demon and Hunt a Large Group (Especially with Invisibility)
... etc

And it doesn't make sense that all these Threats are put together on same Location
So imo BB Pirates will each target a Place with High Population, and SHs Job is gonna be to find a way to Stop them

Most of Encounter is gonna be about trying to reduce Damage & stop their Plans & catch them
But once caught, every single BB Titanic Captain (Except maybe Aokiji) will get One-Shot & Defeated Instantly

They are more like JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Style Fights

 

[Sir Yasheen]

And its rider.

Nah Brook will fight the rider. Chopper isnt fighting both it’ll be a tag team

 

[Rivaille]

I’m pretty sure that the weakling trio fights will be with allies. They will not fight their BB’s pirates counterpart in a 1v1 fight.

And it is not impossible that Aokiji (like Big Mom in Wano) destroys the Usopp and Nami « opponents » while Chopper is working on a médecine to counter whatever disease Doc Q. had created.

 

[park_min young]

I don’t think that there will be a 1:1 matchup.
For one, shit’s too convenient to happen narratively speaking. It will be a scramble between major factions, why will the BBP and SHP be isolated? There will be allies and chaos involved, probably a team fight set-up within the weaker members of the crew.

 

[milluki]

Choppers fighting a horse so he’s fine tbh.

will he learn to fly too?? how else could he even touch stronger and q?

matchups won't be following fthe roles on the ship. take brook, for shares the death theme with doc q, who is so light that he can jump very high and reach flying horses, who was immune to the ice oni virus, and thus will not be affected by most of doc q's diseases.

maybe besides the point, the weakling trio is too weak for any blackbeard pirates. usopp's next powerup is quite straight forward, eating the pawfruit. nami and chopper are intelligent, they will win with brains, not with brawns. chopper will trick pizarro, he will lay out a trap, the lion will step into it. nami always defeats women out of her league, with the help of zeus she will find a way.

 

[Zaretball]

They'll be fine. BBP are made up of fodders too,

 

[kumae]

There's no problem
Nami is fighting Devon her record is hunting and killing young and beautiful ladies besides the tematic fits ugly fox vs beauty cat
Ussop and chopper auger and doc
Sniper Ussop will improve his CoC and chopper will cure Doc illnes since he is not even a good fighter
Laffite is fighting either Brook or robin or both since apparently he is so "important" for some people

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

Well, it's hard to measure the BB pirates' power since they had no (onscreen) 1v1 matchups so far, but Nami and Usopp are notorious for beating far stronger opponents (e.g.: Miss Doublefinger, Kalifa, Perona, Sugar, Ulti, et al.). As for Chopper, I really don't see what Doc Q can do against him beyond his hax DF powers... but Chopper's dream is to be a doctor that can cure everything, so it may end up as a battle of disease vs. cure -- his DF is actually the perfect match to test Chopper's abilities as a doctor.

 

[Erkan12]

They'll be fine. BBP are made up of fodders too,

Its proven that all of BB Pirates are superior to other commanders. Meanwhile SH Pirates still have weaklings.

There's no problem
Nami is fighting Devon her record is hunting and killing young and beautiful ladies besides the tematic fits ugly fox vs beauty cat
Ussop and chopper auger and doc
Sniper Ussop will improve his CoC and chopper will cure Doc illnes since he is not even a good fighter
Laffite is fighting either Brook or robin or both since apparently he is so "important" for some people

Wrong. Nami's matchup is Devon. Laffite vs Brook.


What about changing Law's gender is equal to one-shot?
There is no damaji from that, other than weaker body.
Which doesn't matter to Chopper's points.


Usopp has CoO and pretty good one at that so whatever Augur does, Usopp will dodge it.


They will be after WG and probably final crew battle.
That doesn't mean other SH members like Zoro and Luffy wont have battles after BBPs.

Why Navigator isn't fighting navigator? Devon can hunt another pretty lady Robin.

Laffitte was also with BB Pirates longer than others, it also suits that he match with Nami who was the 2nd oldest member to join SH Pirates.

Although, Nami usually match up with other females, so perhaps it could be Devon for that reason only, still I think Devon is too powerful since she was in Level 6 and has Mythical Zoan, I think Laffitte is weaker than Devon.

Well, it's hard to measure the BB pirates' power since they had no (onscreen) 1v1 matchups so far, but Nami and Usopp are notorious for beating far stronger opponents (e.g.: Miss Doublefinger, Kalifa, Perona, Sugar, Ulti, et al.). As for Chopper, I really don't see what Doc Q can do against him beyond his hax DF powers... but Chopper's dream is to be a doctor that can cure everything, so it may end up as a battle of disease vs. cure -- his DF is actually the perfect match to test Chopper's abilities as a doctor.

Only one who isn't fodder from that list is Ulti, and Ulti was weakened a lot due to BM's attack so if something like that happens it would make sense.

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

Only one who isn't fodder from that list is Ulti, and Ulti was weakened a lot due to BM's attack so if something like that happens it would make sense.

You need to consider the SH's capabilities by the time they faced their opponents.

Miss Doublefinger was the second strongest female agent of Baroque Works, only below Robin herself, and was certainly MUCH stronger than Nami. Kalifa was actually measured alongside the other CP9 agents and she had about 80% of the doriki of agents who could give trouble to Chopper (he went to his limit and needed his monster form for the first time) and Franky (plus, she managed to be promoted to CP0, so she had potential too). Perona was one of the Mysterious Four, one of the top 3 strongest subordinates of Moria, and Usopp was the only one who could defeat her at the time (yeah, it was a gag battle, but he saved the day in the end). Sugar was pretty much Perona 2.0.

And again, nothing suggests that all BB Pirates are ridiculously strong so far.