I'm just wondering why they are only seeing things from a political lense. I said the miliary are just like everyone else as in you see all kinds of people.

Does political views completely dictate personalities and hobbies now? Not surprised Logiko assumes so since your job=political leaning according to him.
People who endorse political parties who have history with that famous mustache guy's dictatorship aren't like everyone else. Their brain doesn't come back to "normal" once they finished voting.
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"I'm a but intimidated by miliary women." That's a very general statement.
It's a general statement yes. Whatever he meant by that. But they also generally support the far-right way more than the rest of the population
 

Uncle Van

Bullets don't hurt. But Taxes do.
if you are a MAGA tard then yeah I think there's some strong personality differences
People who endorse political parties who have history with that famous mustache guy's dictatorship aren't like everyone else. Their brain doesn't come back to "normal" once they finished voting.
Ok I'm lost. Do you think miliary people all share the same personality, hobbies and interests? Same backgrounds and upbringing?

You guys keep trying to shove political leaning into it.
(Not you Roo).
 
Ok I'm lost. Do you think miliary people all share the same personality, hobbies and interests? Same backgrounds and upbringing?

You guys keep trying to shove political leaning into it.
If you're inherently in the army? no. But my reply was to this

Does political views completely dictate personalities and hobbies now?
And that is yes. If you're a MAGA tard I am willing to bet that dictates your personality to some extent
 
Ok I'm lost. Do you think miliary people all share the same personality, hobbies and interests? Same backgrounds and upbringing?

You guys keep trying to shove political leaning into it.
You can't escape politics as long as you live in a social environement, even if you want to

I know you don't want to accept that, but structures shape people. And usually, when people want to enter those structures, it's because they have a vision that aligns with it.

The left wants to change the world, so while you might see a few real leftist in the police that got a bit lost, they will NEVER be in majority, it's simply an impossibility due to the political nature of the institutions and structures that are the police and the military.


Yeah.. I don't think i've ever felt so powerless in my life.
 

Uncle Van

Bullets don't hurt. But Taxes do.
If you're inherently in the army? no. But my reply was to this


And that is yes. If you're a MAGA tard I am willing to bet that dictates your personality to some extent
In that regard yeah since we're getting into specifics. I'm talking in general. Mathias and Logiko are saying military and cops in general lean a certain way politically, when I was talking to MDT about personalities and interests.
 

Uncle Van

Bullets don't hurt. But Taxes do.
You can't escape politics as long as you live in a social environement, even if you want to

I know you don't want to accept that, but structures shape people. And usually, when people want to enter those structures, it's because they have a vision that aligns with it.

The left wants to change the world, so while you might see a few real leftist in the police that got a bit lost, they will NEVER be in majority, it's simply an impossibility due to the political nature of the institutions and structures that are the police and the military.



Yeah.. I don't think i've ever felt so powerless in my life.
You really gotta learn to speak to people without assuming everything about them.
 
I'm talking in general. Mathias and Logiko are saying military and cops in general lean a certain way politically, when I was talking to MDT about personalities and interests.
Come on.. you know full well that personnalities and interests have everything to do with the political and the way you see the world.

Our political vision shapes the way we are and the way we act. There might be paradoxes here and there, but usually, if the person aligns well with her own values, the personnality and the political will be deeply linked.

Look at our relation on this forum for example. I know that you have knowledge about some politics and history, but I was able to pinpoint VERY EARLY the fact that you were not a moderator to change the forum, but to defend it's status co.

And thus, from the very first moment we have interacted, we have been clashing. Simply because we have two radically opposed vision of society. And this was without even knowing your actual job. So like I said, the polical will influence the way you will act.

The problem is that some institutions and structures in society (like Military or Police or the gov) are shaped in a way to influence the political as well. So the more you stay in those institution, the more you will tend to defend them and the more you will be influenced by the political leanance created by those institution > A conservative leaning, the defense of the status co. This is really not an attack here. I'm looking at those structure in a very cold way, without even talking about their politics.

It's just the way society is currently structured, and we are part of it.

You really gotta learn to speak to people without assuming everything about them.
I only speak about what I know. And on this forum, you demonstrated what I'm explaining, I'm not inventing anything. I'm looking at the cold facts. I'm not talking here about personnal feelings, but the way society structures people.

I don't feel powerless. Just seeing the world as it is and as it has always been.
Genocide are just the bad, the world is not all dark.
 

Uncle Van

Bullets don't hurt. But Taxes do.
Come on.. you know full well that personnalities and interests have everything to do with the political and the way you see the world.

Our political vision shapes the way we are and the way we act. There might be paradoxes here and there, but usually, if the person aligns well with her own values, the personnality and the political will be deeply linked.

Look at our relation on this forum for example. I know that you have knowledge about some politics and history, but I was able to pinpoint VERY EARLY the fact that you were not a moderator to change the forum, but to defend it's status co.

And thus, from the very first moment we have interacted, we have been clashing. Simply because we have two radically opposed vision of society. And this was without even knowing your actual job. So like I said, the polical will influence the way you will act.

The problem is that some institutions and structures in society (like Military or Police or the gov) are shaped in a way to influence the political as well. So the more you stay in those institution, the more you will tend to defend them and the more you will be influenced by the political leanance created by those institution > A conservative leaning, the defense of the status co. This is really not an attack here. I'm looking at those structure in a very cold way, without even talking about their politics.

It's just the way society is currently structured, and we are part of it.


I only speak about what I know. And on this forum, you demonstrated what I'm explaining, I'm not inventing anything. I'm looking at the cold facts.


Genocide are just the bad, the world is not all dark.
Feel free to throw in political leaning in a topic about raspberries or blueberries tasting better.

And you don't even know my societal views btw. Most of my posts to you have been about....well, you. Still using yourself as the representation of leftism.
 
And you don't even know my societal views btw.
It's crazy... I've been trying to make you understand this simple thing all this time:

I don't need to know who you vote for to understand that we are on an opposite political spectrum

From DAY ONE, you have laughing at my a*s, but above all, you have been countering me on EVERY points when I asked for change:

- For toxicity
- For transphobia
- For a retructuration
- For a politization of the forum
- For a better moderation

I can say that you are against change (political change) not because you expressed your opinion (even if you did that) but simply because you COUNTERED change every time I proposed it.

It's simple as that.

:kayneshrug:

This is no dark magic, this is not presupposition, this is not labelling, this is simply the constation of our interactions:

I wanted change for social reasons > You made fun of it.

If you were on my side of the political spectrum, you would be understanding why I asked what I asked and if you were a leftist, you would have never countered it that way or made a challenge to make fun of me or lie about what I stand for AND you would be trying to help me or at least make a change.

I only talk about what I'm sure of. And if I'm sure of one thing, is that you don't stand for change.

But that's ok. You do you.

Have you ever taken some time out of your day to learn about history? Because if you did you'd understand that it has always happened and that warfare is the norm.
It's not a fatality.
 
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Uncle Van

Bullets don't hurt. But Taxes do.
It's crazy... I've been trying to make you understand this simple thing all this time:

I don't need to know who you vote for to understand that we are on an opposite political spectrum

From DAY ONE, you have laughing at my a*s, but above all, you have been countering me on EVERY points when I asked for change:

- For toxicity
- For transphobia
- For a retructuration
- For a politization of the forum
- For a better moderation

I can say that you are against change (political change) not because you expressed your opinion (even if you did that) but simply because you COUNTERED change every time I proposed it.

It's simple as that.

:kayneshrug:

This is no dark magic, this is not presupposition, this is not labelling, this is simply the constation of our interactions:

I wanted change for social reasons > You made fun of it.

If you were on my side of the political spectrum, you would be understanding why I asked what I asked and if you were a leftist, you would have never countered it that way or made a challenge to make fun of me or lie about what I stand for AND you would be trying to help me or at least make a change.

I only talk about what I'm sure of. And if I'm sure of one thing, is that you don't stand for change.

But that's ok. You do you.


It's not a fatality.
Ah the usual "agree with everything I say or else you're right wing. Don't you dare think for yourself " dribble. No wonder you don't know anything still 🫡
 
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