Speculations Blackbeard Pirates Vs. Straw Hats Lineup
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In all the chapters robin had just two solo fights 
Its either effective or its not. Like she defaults always tries to break someones neck/spine. Thats why I assume oda let her always fight against giants or characters where this works (spandam) or doesn't work (basically everyone else above alabasta level.) I wish we would be spared from other clang fights that have the same chorography since 25 years now
I don't think so. They were seen together, but as far as I am concerned It's nothing; we have known Lafitte since forever.
BB's crew reflects Rock's crew: to me It's clear the new members are the strongest ones. It's no coincidence they were legendary even before Teach and all Teach's Plan was about them. Plus Kuzan obv. who was a surprise for him.
If anything, Sanji fighting Lafitte would be fighting P1 or WW. Pizarro Is way stronger and It's no coincidence he was the one that aside from Kuzan had the most time against Garp.
BB's crew reflects Rock's crew: to me It's clear the new members are the strongest ones. It's no coincidence they were legendary even before Teach and all Teach's Plan was about them. Plus Kuzan obv. who was a surprise for him.
If anything, Sanji fighting Lafitte would be fighting P1 or WW. Pizarro Is way stronger and It's no coincidence he was the one that aside from Kuzan had the most time against Garp.
Arguments for Sanji v Laffite
Already made most of this points in the video I posted earlier but I'll just summarize it here:
- Ship Role
I don't think the SHs are going to be matched-up against the BB Pirates based on "Ship Roles" but if you want to die on that hill then you'll also have to acknowledge the fact that Lafitte in addition to being the Navigator of the Blackbeard Pirates is also the "Staff Officer", a position Oda has already stated that Sanji implcitly occupies in the SHs. Moreover, "Staff Officer" is a position of authority in a group. Some examples of people with similar positions are Sabo, Tsuru, Gambia and Kabaji. These are all powerful characters in their respective organizations.
Sabo is the second in command in the Revos. Tsuru is one of the major figures of the marines and also a marine Doffy actively avoided confrontation with several years ago. Gambia is the only other relevant Barto Pirates and Barto's second in command. Kabaji was the 2nd in command of the Buggy Pirates and one of Zoro's previous opponents. So this argument that the Staff Officer might be weak coz they are smart is nonsense. Hell Sanji himself is testament to that.
- Blackbeard Pirates v Ace
Lafitte was the only Blackbeard Pirate that came out of that fight clean and Oda even highlighted him casually evading Ace's attack that all of the other members of the crew including Blackbeard fell prey to. This was pre-ts mind you.
- Keeps Crew Members in Check
*Pizarro states that he was going to steal Blackbeard's seat and become Captain and Laffite instantly shuts him down saying he'll rip him to shreds if the tried. Fast forward to post-time skip and Pizarro is now Teach's bitch. Regardless of how that came to be, this is Laffite threatning to kill a level 6 impel down level 6 prisoner and keeping decorum in the crew if he steps out of hand.
*On DR when Burgess referred to Teach casually, Lafitte scolded him and asked him to refer to Teach with honorifics.
- Blackbeard Pirates vs Aokiji
Lafitte was the one that instigated a fight with Aokiji but yet, he also came out of that confrontation clean, whilst the likes of Pizarro, Vasco and Wolf etc. were frozen stiff.
- Important Missions
Teach constantly entrusts Laffite with important missions one of which was to infiltrate Marineford and crash a Shichibukai meeting to nominate Teach as a Shichibukai. He's also currently being entrusted with some other very important mission from Teach hence why we haven't seen him since Dressrosa. Don't think it's an overstatement to state that when Laffite is doing something In the background something big happens with the Blackbeard Pirates. The man is a plot mover.
- Lafitte's Initial Designs
In Laffite's initial designs in his Vivre Card, he was a character known as "Silver" who Blackbeard was trying to recruit as a "partner" from what appeared to be Whitebeard's ship. We've only seen this kind of treatment given to certain type of characters like Marco, King and even then they were not specifically asked to be a "partner" but rather a "subordinate"
Lafitte's potrayal speaks for itself.
Ship Roles and all of that aside, if you wanna know Sanji's opponent, look at things like portrayal and rank.
It is clear as day that Lafitte has much better portrayal than characters like Pizarro or Vasco.
Already made most of this points in the video I posted earlier but I'll just summarize it here:
- Ship Role
I don't think the SHs are going to be matched-up against the BB Pirates based on "Ship Roles" but if you want to die on that hill then you'll also have to acknowledge the fact that Lafitte in addition to being the Navigator of the Blackbeard Pirates is also the "Staff Officer", a position Oda has already stated that Sanji implcitly occupies in the SHs. Moreover, "Staff Officer" is a position of authority in a group. Some examples of people with similar positions are Sabo, Tsuru, Gambia and Kabaji. These are all powerful characters in their respective organizations.
Sabo is the second in command in the Revos. Tsuru is one of the major figures of the marines and also a marine Doffy actively avoided confrontation with several years ago. Gambia is the only other relevant Barto Pirates and Barto's second in command. Kabaji was the 2nd in command of the Buggy Pirates and one of Zoro's previous opponents. So this argument that the Staff Officer might be weak coz they are smart is nonsense. Hell Sanji himself is testament to that.
- Blackbeard Pirates v Ace
Lafitte was the only Blackbeard Pirate that came out of that fight clean and Oda even highlighted him casually evading Ace's attack that all of the other members of the crew including Blackbeard fell prey to. This was pre-ts mind you.
- Keeps Crew Members in Check
*Pizarro states that he was going to steal Blackbeard's seat and become Captain and Laffite instantly shuts him down saying he'll rip him to shreds if the tried. Fast forward to post-time skip and Pizarro is now Teach's bitch. Regardless of how that came to be, this is Laffite threatning to kill a level 6 impel down level 6 prisoner and keeping decorum in the crew if he steps out of hand.
*On DR when Burgess referred to Teach casually, Lafitte scolded him and asked him to refer to Teach with honorifics.
- Blackbeard Pirates vs Aokiji
Lafitte was the one that instigated a fight with Aokiji but yet, he also came out of that confrontation clean, whilst the likes of Pizarro, Vasco and Wolf etc. were frozen stiff.
- Important Missions
Teach constantly entrusts Laffite with important missions one of which was to infiltrate Marineford and crash a Shichibukai meeting to nominate Teach as a Shichibukai. He's also currently being entrusted with some other very important mission from Teach hence why we haven't seen him since Dressrosa. Don't think it's an overstatement to state that when Laffite is doing something In the background something big happens with the Blackbeard Pirates. The man is a plot mover.
- Lafitte's Initial Designs
In Laffite's initial designs in his Vivre Card, he was a character known as "Silver" who Blackbeard was trying to recruit as a "partner" from what appeared to be Whitebeard's ship. We've only seen this kind of treatment given to certain type of characters like Marco, King and even then they were not specifically asked to be a "partner" but rather a "subordinate"
Lafitte's potrayal speaks for itself.
Ship Roles and all of that aside, if you wanna know Sanji's opponent, look at things like portrayal and rank.
It is clear as day that Lafitte has much better portrayal than characters like Pizarro or Vasco.
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Sanji - Pizarro : North Blue royalty.
More details possibility :
1. Shiryuu : he got Sanji's dream fruit and have part of his skillset, invisibility.
2. Burgess : both are unarmed, brute-force martial artist.
3. Lafitte : both have the flight & stealth theme
4. Doc Q : he uses food as weapons & can fly.
5. Van Augur : took Pudding, Warp counter is speed/CoO.
6. Pizarro : North Blue & royalty background.
7. Devon : hitting woman theme, shapeshifter.
8. Aokiji : ice fire theme & took Pudding.
9. Vasco Shot : both are pervert.
10. San Juan Wolf : giant opponent.
More details possibility :
1. Shiryuu : he got Sanji's dream fruit and have part of his skillset, invisibility.
2. Burgess : both are unarmed, brute-force martial artist.
3. Lafitte : both have the flight & stealth theme
4. Doc Q : he uses food as weapons & can fly.
5. Van Augur : took Pudding, Warp counter is speed/CoO.
6. Pizarro : North Blue & royalty background.
7. Devon : hitting woman theme, shapeshifter.
8. Aokiji : ice fire theme & took Pudding.
9. Vasco Shot : both are pervert.
10. San Juan Wolf : giant opponent.
