Character Discussion Zoro is Alpha, Sanji is an envious Beta as per the One Piece manga latest chapter

ThunderSupernova

ThunderSupernova

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#1
#1
Not a theory
Straight up from the very manga



"You should be ashamed!”

Bro... what? :whitepress:

Ashamed... of what? What should Zoro be ashamed of? Ashamed of being an Alpha male? Of being one of The Strong, the natural-born Conqueror Haki users who fear nothing?

This is easily why Luffy > Zoro >>> Sanji
This is why no CoC vs both Adv CoC, no Supernova vs both Worst Generation Supernovas and so on
Sanji will always be tiers below Zoro and Luffy

Luffy and Zoro just built different
Attitude and potential completely different

- Note how we see that from the very start
- Note how that's incredibly consistent from the very start to now, more than 1000 chapters later

Then



Now



What changed? Nothing
The Beta couldn't understand the two Alphas
The Beta still can't understand the two Alphas

This is also why Zoro and Sanji have their gags
Sanji is envious of Zoro, and Zoro doesn't want to be dragged down with Sanji


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langitbarat

langitbarat

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#7
#7
It's always nice & fun to see how both sides of the fandom react to the chapter.

It adds variety & taste to the reading experience, rather than just boring flow like 99% of the Manga out there.

In Zoro's fandom, we got this.

In Sanji's fandom, the same scene made them insult Zoro "last chapter he said to prioritize finding the crew, this chapter he prioritize going on adventure".
 
ThunderSupernova

ThunderSupernova

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#8
#8


langitbarat said:
It's always nice & fun to see how both sides of the fandom react to the chapter.

It adds variety & taste to the reading experience, rather than just boring flow like 99% of the Manga out there.

In Zoro's fandom, we got this.

In Sanji's fandom, the same scene made them insult Zoro "last chapter he said to prioritize finding the crew, this chapter he prioritize going on adventure".
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It's always nice & fun to see how Sanji fans will always try to hide and change reality no matter what instead of admit the most blatant evidence

It adds toxicity & useless long-date debates about something that doesn't need any debate at all
 
langitbarat

langitbarat

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#9
ThunderSupernova said:



It's always nice & fun to see how Sanji fans will always try to hide and change reality no matter what instead of admit the most blatant evidence

It adds toxicity & useless long-date debates about something that doesn't need any debate at all
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If you're referring to the old debates, it's actually about who is better, not about who is stronger. Hence why it exists since the start and continue to exists even now, despite the clear hierarchy given by Oda.

And weaker character winning against a stronger character is a common thing in shounen, especially One Piece. So although it is delusional, I can see why some Sanji fans thinks he can beat Zoro.

If you're referring to this scene in particular, Zoro talking about the crew in last chapter is a canon scene.
 
T

trav

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#10
#10
Both sides of the retard spectrum are reading too much into this.
Its a stupid joke to show how reckless both Luffy and Zoro are.
Luffy is not really feeding off of Zoro. He has always been like this.
Same way as Zoro has always been like this.
Its just another instance to show how similar Zoro and Luffy are in some regards.
 
NAMELESS

NAMELESS

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#11
#11
ThunderSupernova said:
Not a theory
Straight up from the very manga



"You should be ashamed!”

Bro... what? :whitepress:

Ashamed... of what? What should Zoro be ashamed of? Ashamed of being an Alpha male? Of being one of The Strong, the natural-born Conqueror Haki users who fear nothing?

This is easily why Luffy > Zoro >>> Sanji
This is why no CoC vs both Adv CoC, no Supernova vs both Worst Generation Supernovas and so on
Sanji will always be tiers below Zoro and Luffy

Luffy and Zoro just built different
Attitude and potential completely different

- Note how we see that from the very start
- Note how that's incredibly consistent from the very start to now, more than 1000 chapters later

Then



Now



What changed? Nothing
The Beta couldn't understand the two Alphas
The Beta still can't understand the two Alphas

This is also why Zoro and Sanji have their gags
Sanji is envious of Zoro, and Zoro doesn't want to be dragged down with Sanji


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I like Sanji, but his character is definetily not fight oriented.
 
Mr.Baj1o

Mr.Baj1o

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#14
#14
ThunderSupernova said:
Not a theory
Straight up from the very manga



"You should be ashamed!”

Bro... what? :whitepress:

Ashamed... of what? What should Zoro be ashamed of? Ashamed of being an Alpha male? Of being one of The Strong, the natural-born Conqueror Haki users who fear nothing?

This is easily why Luffy > Zoro >>> Sanji
This is why no CoC vs both Adv CoC, no Supernova vs both Worst Generation Supernovas and so on
Sanji will always be tiers below Zoro and Luffy

Luffy and Zoro just built different
Attitude and potential completely different

- Note how we see that from the very start
- Note how that's incredibly consistent from the very start to now, more than 1000 chapters later

Then



Now



What changed? Nothing
The Beta couldn't understand the two Alphas
The Beta still can't understand the two Alphas

This is also why Zoro and Sanji have their gags
Sanji is envious of Zoro, and Zoro doesn't want to be dragged down with Sanji


@Finalbeta @T.D.A @Zowo @yorosenpai @ConquistadoR @Fleet Leader Fenaker @The White Crane @kumae @Sentinel @Orojackson Refugee @Peroroncino @Redboy776 @Rekien @Sword God Ryuma @nik87 @Manos. AsuraZoro @NAMELESS @Blazing Lion @Reborn @Gelo @bennbeckman @mly90 @Akagami Law @style @HA001 @sanji D Goat @Gauntlet @Marimo_420 @Shishi @Money D Malio @ShadowStyle369 @matt245 @ShishioIsBack @Cyrus the Cactus
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Cook them frauds
 
centurion

centurion

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#17
#17
ThunderSupernova said:
Not a theory
Straight up from the very manga



"You should be ashamed!”

Bro... what? :whitepress:

Ashamed... of what? What should Zoro be ashamed of? Ashamed of being an Alpha male? Of being one of The Strong, the natural-born Conqueror Haki users who fear nothing?

This is easily why Luffy > Zoro >>> Sanji
This is why no CoC vs both Adv CoC, no Supernova vs both Worst Generation Supernovas and so on
Sanji will always be tiers below Zoro and Luffy

Luffy and Zoro just built different
Attitude and potential completely different

- Note how we see that from the very start
- Note how that's incredibly consistent from the very start to now, more than 1000 chapters later

Then



Now



What changed? Nothing
The Beta couldn't understand the two Alphas
The Beta still can't understand the two Alphas

This is also why Zoro and Sanji have their gags
Sanji is envious of Zoro, and Zoro doesn't want to be dragged down with Sanji


@Finalbeta @T.D.A @Zowo @yorosenpai @ConquistadoR @Fleet Leader Fenaker @The White Crane @kumae @Sentinel @Orojackson Refugee @Peroroncino @Redboy776 @Rekien @Sword God Ryuma @nik87 @Manos. AsuraZoro @NAMELESS @Blazing Lion @Reborn @Gelo @bennbeckman @mly90 @Akagami Law @style @HA001 @sanji D Goat @Gauntlet @Marimo_420 @Shishi @Money D Malio @ShadowStyle369 @matt245 @ShishioIsBack @Cyrus the Cactus
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