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Where is Varys’s Manhood?


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This got progressive more boring once it became obvious how much some of you take Sandoq's hype at face value.

Hype from a source that is notoriously hyperbolic and unreliable.

You cunts gave it to this fucking nobody for killing nobodies when Barristan outright stated he could've killed the entire Kingsguard by himself.
Sansa heard someone gasp. Ser Boros and Ser Meryn moved forward to confront him, but Ser Barristan froze them in place with a look that dripped contempt. "Have no fear, sers, your king is safe … no thanks to you. Even now, I could cut through the five of you as easy as a dagger cuts cheese. If you would serve under the Kingslayer, not a one of you is fit to wear the white." He flung his sword at the foot of the Iron Throne. "Here, boy. Melt it down and add it to the others, if you like. It will do you more good than the swords in the hands of these five. Perhaps Lord Stannis will chance to sit on it when he takes your throne."

He took the long way out, his steps ringing loud against the floor and echoing off the bare stone walls. Lords and ladies parted to let him pass. Not until the pages had closed the great oak-and-bronze doors behind him did Sansa hear sounds again: soft voices, uneasy stirrings, the shuffle of papers from the council table. "He called me boy," Joffrey said peevishly, sounding younger than his years. "He talked about my uncle Stannis too."
How many fuckers do you think Barristan or Robert or Oberyn would kill if they could fight defending a bridge or narrow passage?

Frauds.
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This got progressive more boring once it became obvious how much some of you take Sandoq's hype at face value.

Hype from a source that is notoriously hyperbolic and unreliable.

You cunts gave it to this fucking nobody for killing nobodies when Barristan outright stated he could've killed the entire Kingsguard by himself.


How many fuckers do you think Barristan or Robert or Oberyn would kill if they could fight defending a bridge or narrow passage?

Frauds.
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This isn't his greatest achievement
So who gives a fuck how many they could kill
The man is 7ft tall, swings a Valyrian steel great sword with one hand like the mountain, has a 100 victories and supposedly kills the fiercest wild animals with bare hands.
 
Bro. He killed lions, bears, and wyverns with rocks. Lmfao

Okay, let’s say those rumors are exaggerated, and he only killed a lion or a bear with a rock. BRUH. Lol

Dayne lost in a 3v7 with some Northmen. I don’t even want to entertain that convo. Lol
His face is horribly disfigured, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the work of some beast indeed.

Who then he killed lmfao.
 
So you think the stories around him in the pits are just completely made up? Lol

Like those stories just came from absolutely nowhere, and this 7 foot tall Valyrian Steel Greatsword one-handing giant never did anything of note in the pits? lol
Made up in parts, probably, but mostly exaggeration and hyberbole for effect.

That is the essence of the source material. It's unreliable by design.

This isn't his greatest achievement
So who gives a fuck how many they could kill
The man is 7ft tall, swings a Valyrian steel great sword with one hand like the mountain, has a 100 victories and supposedly kills the fiercest wild animals with bare hands.
His achievements amount to killing nobodies that were not threat to him and fantastical stories in a fantastical book.

The lack of discernment.
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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Made up in parts, probably, but mostly exaggeration and hyberbole for effect.

That is the essence of the source material. It's unreliable by design.



His achievements amount to killing nobodies that were not threat to him and fantastical stories in a fantastical book.

The lack of discernment.
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Even if you only take Sandoq’s only shown fight into account, the dude is just terrifying. It was said that Aumary Peak did not disgrace the Kingsguard, but Sandoq killed him and his 12 guards with ease regardless. Without taking a single scratch. There’s no other way to read this than Sandoq killed a competent Kingsguard and 12 guards with ease.

Barristan’s quote that you cited was clearly shouted out of a sense of anger and trying to hold onto his tarnished pride as a Knight. There’s not much reason to take that so seriously lmfao. There’s no way Barristan would’ve killed multiple Kingsguard and the Hound in old age. Even in his prime that’s somewhat of a stretch.
 
Even if you only take Sandoq’s only shown fight into account, the dude is just terrifying. It was said that Aumary Peak did not disgrace the Kingsguard, but Sandoq killed him and his 12 guards with ease regardless. Without taking a single scratch. There’s no other way to read this than Sandoq killed a competent Kingsguard and 12 guards with ease.

Barristan’s quote that you cited was clearly shouted out of a sense of anger and trying to hold onto his tarnished pride as a Knight. There’s not much reason to take that so seriously lmfao. There’s no way Barristan would’ve killed multiple Kingsguard and the Hound in old age. Even in his prime that’s somewhat of a stretch.
Prime Jaime considers the Hound a tough match and Prime Barristan ~ Prime Jaime. No way he can focus even on someone else while he's taking on the Hound.
 
Even if you only take Sandoq’s only shown fight into account, the dude is just terrifying. It was said that Aumary Peak did not disgrace the Kingsguard, but Sandoq killed him and his 12 guards with ease regardless. Without taking a single scratch. There’s no other way to read this than Sandoq killed a competent Kingsguard and 12 guards with ease.
I'm not saying he wasn't fearsome. This is a thread dedicated to fearsome fighters.

Many of which have much better hype and respectable feats than this cunt.

Barristan’s quote that you cited was clearly shouted out of a sense of anger and trying to hold onto his tarnished pride as a Knight. There’s not much reason to take that so seriously lmfao. There’s no way Barristan would’ve killed multiple Kingsguard and the Hound in old age. Even in his prime that’s somewhat of a stretch.
You take a book that is notoriously unreliable at face value, but you take Barristan for an emotional braggart that was talking out of his arse.

Frauds. All of you.
 
I'm not saying he wasn't fearsome. This is a thread dedicated to fearsome fighters.

Many of which have much better hype and respectable feats than this cunt.
No one is taking this as complete fact otherwise we'd have to admit this guy doesn't belong in this universe.
Believing some of it as possible with stuff we already know about him is enough to admit he's a top tier and in no way is it a stretch to say he could slay the likes of Dayne.
The man again is a monstrously huge man, uses a great sword with one hand which is Valyrian steel btw, was a gladiator basically so that means he has a lot of experience, killing animals with bare hands indicates monstrous physical strength but the way he fights shows he's not just a mountain but actually skilled.
Prime Bariston would face trouble against the Hound and this dude is like a bigger, stronger, more experienced hound with a weapon upgrade.
 
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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Many of which have much better hype and respectable feats than this cunt.
Better hype than killing Wyverns and Bears with rocks? Lmfao

In case you don’t know, Bears that were large enough irl (Grizzlies/Kodiaks, etc) were viewed as being nigh-unkillable during the age of Gunpowder. Lmfao

You take a book that is notoriously unreliable at face value, but you take Barristan for an emotional braggart that was talking out of his arse.
Actually, that period of Fire and Blood’s history is pretty reliable. There were several witnesses to that event, and the period of “questionable sourcing” (IE the Dance of Dragons) had ended years ago. The coup on Aegon III was well documented in lore, and Sandoq the Shadow’s presence at Westeros court AFTER he protected Aegon was well documented.

No one is treating this like a 1:1 true telling of Sandoq’s actual life, but the sheer hype around him just straight up absurd, and that feat on the bridge is reliable enough to be completely believed imo.

But I do agree there were more qualified candidates to win this tournament, such as Daemon Blackfyre.
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The Song of Salt and Tears has been sung. Lol
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Sandoq might just rip Dawn out of Arthur’s hands and kill him with it

Sandoq is not a Knight, or a swordsman, he is a gladiator who fights with whatever object is within his immediate viscinity and could potentially kill somoene.

Literally, I would not doubt Sandoq’s ability to take Dayne’s weapon from him lmfao. Dayne isn’t some brute, he is just a superb swordsman. Any huge brute like Sandoq would likely manhandle Dayne in a contest of sheer strength.
 
No one is taking this as complete fact otherwise we'd have to admit this guy doesn't belong in this universe.
Believing some of it as possible with stuff we already know about him is enough to admit he's a top tier and in no way is it a stretch to say he could slay the likes of Dayne.
Each of you cite his supposed feats as truthful and accurate when the material it's from is anything but.

You sidestep this fact every time.

The man again is a monstrously huge man, uses a great sword with one hand which is Valyrian steel btw, was a gladiator basically so that means he has a lot of experience, killing animals with bare hands indicates monstrous physical strength but the way he fights shows he's not just a mountain but actually skilled.
The Mountain was skilled. He trained in arms since he was a boy and even Tyrion think he has a warrior's instincts while his and Oberyn's lives are at stake.

Do you think brute strength is all it takes to effectively move in thick armour and swing a heavy sword? The Mountain is not a general, he is an enforcer that's extremely effective at what he does.

Prime Bariston would face trouble against the Hound and this dude is like a bigger, stronger, more experienced hound with a weapon upgrade.
Barristan was 23-24 years old when he slew Maeleys the Monstrous, barely into his prime. By what reasoning do you think he would have trouble with Sandor fucking Clegane?

The only man that can be said to be an equal to a mythological figure GRRM and this entire fandom wanks to death, is going to be troubled by the fucking Hound? Be serious for a moment.

Sandoq is Belwas Strong with fancier kit from another era.

Better hype than killing Wyverns and Bears with rocks? Lmfao
You actually believing this proves my point. If it sounds cool enough, you fuckers take it at face value.

Never mind the fact the source is unreliable, it sounds cool, and therefore you want it to be fact.

Actually, that period of Fire and Blood’s history is pretty reliable. There were several witnesses to that event, and the period of “questionable sourcing” (IE the Dance of Dragons) had ended years ago. The coup on Aegon III was well documented in lore, and Sandoq the Shadow’s presence at Westeros court AFTER he protected Aegon was well documented.
None of it is reliable. That's the entire point of the book.

Did a VERSION of the events happen as describe? Sure. What parts actually happened and which didn't are a matter of speculation that you have to navigate with some common sense and discernment - which none of you have done with Sandoq.

No one is treating this like a 1:1 true telling of Sandoq’s actual life, but the sheer hype around him just straight up absurd, and that feat on the bridge is reliable enough to be completely believed imo.
BRUH.
Better hype than killing Wyverns and Bears with rocks? Lmfao
 
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