Controversial Why is the Spoiler Section the most Toxic and Negative section of this site?

[vikas]

Okay fact is for me the series has become trash...I don't care much but also come to peak around as it has been a with me for a more than a decade now... Probably around 15-16 years..

But the thread has always been like that, and many don't want to defend this series anymore... So just make fun if it now.. Makes sense.. earlier people used to defend and clean it's shit only fair they can now shit on it...

 

[NAMELESS]

Check out the 'sensitive topics' section and you will learn the meaning of toxic

ohhh absolutely*wink* *wink*

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You're nothing but a bully. This is why Worstgen sucks.

"Wake up to reality. Nothing ever goes as planned in this accursed world"-Uchiha Madara. This sums up Wano for me.

 

[Rej]

For me it is a very different story than for most people here on this forum I guess.

I was a theorist on Oro Jackson and what I loved most about One Piece was how Oda is a puzzlemaker and we as readers can grab those puzzle pieces and form all kinds of unique theories. Deconstructing One Piece has always been what fascinated me the most, the most fun thing about One Piece, and also imho the most unique thing about One Piece and how Oda writes.

I seeked out forums because I wanted to talk about One Piece that way with people. Replicating these deconstructing discussions that youtubers had before.

Sadly, nowadays I can't find this anymore on WG because it seems there is no demand for it. That is why I got pushed to have these talks in smaller bubbles on Discord.

Now the pointe for me here is...you can't have this kind of funny puzzling discussions, while learning about real life lore or inspirations, in a toxic environment. Puzzlesolving, studying, these things demand a friendly and respecting space, and not this kind of environment where One Piece is treated in a disrespectful or hardass way.

It's like libraries or internet cafe's, you can't have a gang of punks enter it and disturb the vibe with controversial shouting and propagandizations.

I think I am moving on from the point where I was sad about it, to the point where I just accept this space as it is, just lurking on full ignorant mode. lol

 

[Mr.Baj1o]

Would it be entertaining enough if there were no toxic arguments or trolling. I think the majority here on this Forum is not even taking anything serious when it comes to trolling/arguing or even cursing lol. Its just them having fun in here...

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Thats a really dumb and dismissive take. Very ignorant.

Fun fact, I have received death threats and people telling me to kill myself over criticising one piece in the past, elsewhere from here.
I never got that from one piece haters. But you know the haters are the bad ones.

No one is pointing the finger at you, neither am I saying everybody is pretending. But that’s just an opinion of mine and I think I’m right.

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There might be a few of this sort here, too, but reality is that a lot of the critical voices mean their criticism.

They're not blinded by nostalgia and simply got annoyed with Oda's overly repetitive writing and the stakes/tension getting lower and lower each arc (especially since the Nika reveal).

The spoiler section is the first unfiltered reaction to a chapter each week and therefore you also get the most negative reactions there.

Yeah I think some people don’t like it anymore. My point still stand either way.

 

[vikas]

For me it is a very different story than for most people here on this forum I guess.

I was a theorist on Oro Jackson and what I loved most about One Piece was how Oda is a puzzlemaker and we as readers can grab those puzzle pieces and form all kinds of unique theories. Deconstructing One Piece has always been what fascinated me the most, the most fun thing about One Piece, and also imho the most unique thing about One Piece and how Oda writes.

I seeked out forums because I wanted to talk about One Piece that way with people. Replicating these deconstructing discussions that youtubers had before.

Sadly, nowadays I can't find this anymore on WG because it seems there is no demand for it. That is why I got pushed to have these talks in smaller bubbles on Discord.

Now the pointe for me here is...you can't have this kind of funny puzzling discussions, while learning about real life lore or inspirations, in a toxic environment. Puzzlesolving, studying, these things demand a friendly and respecting space, and not this kind of environment where One Piece is treated in a disrespectful or hardass way.

It's like libraries or internet cafe's, you can't have a gang of punks enter it and disturb the vibe with controversial shouting and propagandizations.

I think I am moving on from the point where I was sad about it, to the point where I just accept this space as it is, just lurking on full ignorant mode. lol

But earlier it was different.... Making good theories and speculation used to make sense because atleast I expected that much effort would be put into the story... But eventually I accepted that it's not the case... Most theories and speculation we add they are good fiction but the author doesn't think that deep or even cares about to elaborate it as most of the thing oda did was just take inspiration or just use same story but not add anything from his side like in elbaf we will get reference to norse mythology but actual story will be below average.

 

[Logiko]

fferent.... Making good theories and speculation used to make sense because atleast I expected that much effort would be put into the story... But eventually I accepted that it's not the case... Most theories and speculation we add they are good fiction but the author doesn't think that deep or even cares about to elaborate it as most of the thing oda

Such blindness...

Most of the theories I see here do not even come close to the level of writing of Oda.. do not even try to think that they are good fiction. You lost the touch with the story, it's ok, not everyone can enjoy something that subvert expectations, but do not transform it into a case of Oda lacking writing skill, you are light years away from making a pertinent point in that domain.

One Piece is at peak in term of writing currently. It's a narrative FACT. Anyone saying the opposite is blind either because they expect something too regular or because they do not like the choices of Oda (in majority for bad reasons).

There is SOOOOO MUCH to say about the story but since you guys stay in an environement that does not bring you this knowledge, you don't seek it.

Really... if you don't like One Piece, it's ok. Move on. But parading as a pertinent critic and trying to explain that making fun of the author or the story is legitimate, when the majority of you people talking sh*t about One Piece don't understand 50% of the narration, is really not the genius move you think it is.

 

[dirtyLarry]

One Piece is at peak in term of writing currently. It's a narrative FACT. Anyone saying the opposite is blind either because they expect something too regular or because they do not like the choices of Oda (in majority for bad reasons).

This is exactly the immature attitude many people here dislike (and therefore started to dislike the OP community as a whole).

Imho there are a ton of valid points you can criticize about Oda's writing, especially post-skip.

You don't need to agree, but acting like everyone that has a different opinion like you is just some uneducated fool who hasn't seen the light actually makes you the immature, ignorant person here.

You don't want to be that.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

ohhh absolutely*wink* *wink*

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"Wake up to reality. Nothing ever goes as planned in this accursed world"-Uchiha Madara. This sums up Wano for me.

My dude are you obsessed with me? Why do you feel the need to respond to every random post I make, are you this starved for my attention?

 

[Kizaruber Eats]

This is actually better for this thread lmao:

These replies the past couple of pages are killing me lmao, WG at its peak chicanery.

Speaking of Chicanery.....OH GOD WHAT HAVE I DONE?! LMFAO:

Chuck's WorstGen Rant – The One Piece Worshipper Edition

Chuck (passionately ranting):

You think this is about One Piece? You think I spent decades of my life reading chapter after chapter, eagerly waiting every Sunday, just to sit back and let the WorstGen cesspool dictate the discussion? You don’t understand One Piece, Jimmy. You don’t understand at all.

I see the threads. I see the posts. Powerscaling debates, agendas, slander—day in, day out. Yonko > Admirals? Zoro vs. Sanji? I can't scroll for five minutes without stumbling into some troll claiming “Akainu neg-diffs Garp,” or some agenda-pusher pretending Big Mom is stronger than Kaido! The negativity, the toxicity... it’s unbearable!

And let’s not even get started on the hornyposting. You think I’m gonna sit there and pretend it’s normal that half the community is out here lusting over Ulti? Or that there's an entire faction dedicated to furries because they can’t get over Carrot? This isn’t some fanbase—they’ve turned it into a zoo! A ZOO, JIMMY!

Then there are the agendas, the trolling. Have you ever tried having a serious conversation about worldbuilding? About how Oda’s been intricately weaving the mysteries of the Void Century since chapter one? You try and talk about any of that, and you get swarmed by some 14-year-old with a Zoro pfp who won’t shut up about Mihawk scaling above Shanks. It’s like they don’t care about the story, the art, Jimmy—they just want their favorite character to win. To win, Jimmy! As if that’s all that matters in this grand masterpiece Oda’s crafting.

You think it stops there? No. It never stops. Every new chapter, every panel, every SBS—it's just more fuel for the arguments. Did you see the latest one? Did you? Zoro’s Enma haki trail slightly longer than usual in one frame, and suddenly the entire fandom’s at each other’s throats! Zoro fans call it proof he's the reincarnation of Ryuma. Sanji fans? They cry “Zorotard” in the comments section like it’s some badge of honor.

And the slander! I can't even express a genuine opinion on Luffy's character growth without someone accusing me of being a "Luffytard." How dare I appreciate the complex emotional arc of a character who’s not a swordsman? No, in WorstGen, if you don’t worship Zoro, you’re the enemy. And if you DARE suggest that Sanji has any real value, they’ll bury you. BURY YOU ALIVE, JIMMY!

You think this is just some normal forum? No, WorstGen is a battleground, where only the most deranged, bloodthirsty fans survive. It's not about discussion, it's about who can scream louder, who can troll harder, who can push the most ridiculous headcanon until people start accepting it as fact. Headcanon, Jimmy!

And furries? FURRIES, Jimmy?! There are entire factions dedicated to anthropomorphized mink creatures! People are out here seriously debating how strong Bepo is, as if that’s the most pressing question in One Piece! They don’t even care about the story anymore—they just want to know which talking animal can beat who! This is where we are, Jimmy. THIS is where the fandom has fallen!

And it’s not just trolling or hornyposting. There’s genuine malice. I’ve seen fans deliberately spoil chapters for the community, just for the satisfaction of ruining someone’s day. You call that a fandom? No, Jimmy, this is a battlefield. And you know what’s worse? The mods let it happen! They revel in it. They want the chaos. It drives engagement, gets clicks, boosts their status. They’re complicit, Jimmy. The whole system is.

So don't stand there, don't you DARE stand there and tell me that this is a place for fans of One Piece. This isn't about the love of the series, or the respect for Oda’s vision. It's a feeding frenzy, a toxic circus where the loudest idiots get the most attention, where agendas and trolling rule supreme.

WorstGen? WorstGen is a disgrace to One Piece, and it’s full of nothing but furries, trolls, powerscalers, and agenda-pushers who don’t give a DAMN about the story! And I won’t be a part of it!

Jimmy (sighing, shaking his head):
Chuck… it’s just a forum.

 

[Logiko]

You will be able to teach me about immaturity when the majority of the post on this forum are not aimed at trashing blindly the story without any understanding of it. Is that clear ?

In the meantime, I've yet to see series of PERTINENT narrative critics on this forum about the manga.

You don't understand that this environment is the reason why the hate is growing. The hate is not growing because of the story. I've explained the phenomena already. It's all about inertia.

Imho there are a ton of valid points you can criticize about Oda's writing, especially post-skip.

Not really no. There are little glimps of facilities here and there, it's true, no story are perfect, but real PERTINENT narrative criticizism, not really.

You don't need to agree, but acting like everyone that has a different opinion like you is just some uneducated fool who hasn't seen the light actually makes you the immature, ignorant person here.

I'll stop having that opinion when I will see the majority people actually use the story or narration and not their expectations to criticize the story. I'll stop having that opinion when I will see the majority of people criticizing the story actually UNDERSTAND the point made by the story.

Right now. You have NO lessons to give me. You are on the side of blind criticism, in an environement that favors said blind criticism. I'll stop when I will not have to explain the majority of the plot to random wanabee analyst who think they are pertinent by calling a chapter trash because they saw Gear 5.

You don't want to be that.

You don't want to have this debate with me. You will lose. Don't try.

 

[NAMELESS]

My dude are you obsessed with me? Why do you feel the need to respond to every random post I make, are you this starved for my attention?

I just found ironic how the guy that instigates people the most is talking about toxicity.

 

[Buusatan94]

Wano did happen.

Unfortunately yes, but not in the way we hoped it would have happened.

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When I think about Wano I always think about disillusionement.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I just found ironic how the guy that instigates people the most is talking about toxicity.

Strange that you feel the need to follow me to other threads. Are you stalking me or what?

 

[Buusatan94]

Strange that you feel the need to follow me to other threads. Are you stalking me or what?

Very nice avy, I like this lava eruption in reverse.

 

[NAMELESS]

Strange that you feel the need to follow me to other threads. Are you stalking me or what?

nah, just coincidence. Get off your high horse. I'm not into weebs, sorry.

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This is exactly the immature attitude many people here dislike (and therefore started to dislike the OP community as a whole).

Imho there are a ton of valid points you can criticize about Oda's writing, especially post-skip.

You don't need to agree, but acting like everyone that has a different opinion like you is just some uneducated fool who hasn't seen the light actually makes you the immature, ignorant person here.

You don't want to be that.

brooooooooooooo

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This is actually better for this thread lmao:

I can't find the strength to finish Better Call Saul. Its just boring.

 

[Rej]

But earlier it was different.... Making good theories and speculation used to make sense because atleast I expected that much effort would be put into the story... But eventually I accepted that it's not the case... Most theories and speculation we add they are good fiction but the author doesn't think that deep or even cares about to elaborate it as most of the thing oda did was just take inspiration or just use same story but not add anything from his side like in elbaf we will get reference to norse mythology but actual story will be below average.

Bro, I am kindly apologizing for saying it...but I don't get your point lol.
Idk if it is due to grammar or due to this complex sentences you form.

 

[NAMELESS]

But earlier it was different.... Making good theories and speculation used to make sense because atleast I expected that much effort would be put into the story... But eventually I accepted that it's not the case... Most theories and speculation we add they are good fiction but the author doesn't think that deep or even cares about to elaborate it as most of the thing oda did was just take inspiration or just use same story but not add anything from his side like in elbaf we will get reference to norse mythology but actual story will be below average.

Theory crafting is the best thing about following any series. Problem with Oda is that he wants to be subversive and unpredictable. So whenever fans figure stuff out, he changes the plot for the sake of it. I feel this style of writing punishes the hardcore fans that keep looking out for the breadcrumbs to predict things. It's not fair.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

But earlier it was different.... Making good theories and speculation used to make sense because atleast I expected that much effort would be put into the story... But eventually I accepted that it's not the case... Most theories and speculation we add they are good fiction but the author doesn't think that deep or even cares about to elaborate it as most of the thing oda did was just take inspiration or just use same story but not add anything from his side like in elbaf we will get reference to norse mythology but actual story will be below average.

The diverse real life cultural inspirations in each arc give the reader the illusion that Oda is still innovative when he literally reuses the same basic structure for every saga. Like I said multiple temes before, the initial 5 year time span would have been more than enough to tell the entire story without the frills and money milking.

 

[Logiko]

. So whenever fans figure stuff out, he changes the plot for the sake of it.

That's not how it works

Oda doesn't change the plot out of convenience just because people guessed the story. He might tell you he will, he might tell you that it makes him mads, but when a story is launched, there is very little reasons for him to change things that are prepared. Its would send the story to oblivion.

The diverse real life cultural inspirations in each arc give the reader the illusion that Oda is still innovative when he literally reuses the same basic structure for every saga. Like I said multiple temes before, the initial 5 year time span would have been more than enough to tell the entire story without the frills and money milking.

Stories ARE the same structure over and over again. Repeting a structure is not an issue if this is done well.. and this is done well in One Piece.

Stop using what Oda said against him, he is speaking nonsense. Look at the story and start from that, not his interviews. And stop assuming authors just milk their stories for money.. especially when they have limited time to write them and are millionaires.