Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1130 Spoilers Discussion

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

No he wouldn’t? Sanjis IJ easily broke something that Road didn’t think could be broken.

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Nah all are pretty fitting Pekoms never got to use his sulong form because he was attacked by the mob mid transformation

Oven's one of the oldest members of the crew and one of the highest ranked members though

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Luffy will use whatever Oda wants him to use at that moment lmao.
This is the problem with you, microanalyzing meaningless fights against Numbers, Cats & Snakes and then talking crazy headcanon.
Fights against literal fodder doesn't erase previous on panel showings, and your only excuse for all of this is some headcanon that Hajruddin is 100x stronger.

Hajrudin’s dream is to become king of the giants. If you still expect him to be a fodder by DR standards, prepare to be disappointed.

Sure he’ll still be a fodder to Luffy. But Elbaf standards aren’t DR standards.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Hajrudin is irrelevant lol

He has as much chance of being giant king as Leo does

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Oven's one of the oldest members of the crew and one of the highest ranked members though

He is, but Pekoms was an infamous pirate coming into the crew and has access to sulong form which turns someone who’s weaker than Brûlée to someone who can actually fight with Daifuku.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

So do you really believe the idea that Crocodile was comparable to pre-TS Luffy level ?
I think Crocodile was way above pre-TS Luffy and always worth 1.9 Billion.
But Alabasta was an arc written for him to lose, and he lost after 3x rounds with Luffy having plot armour.

It gets worse if you include the non canon sources.

Bullet fought equally with prime Rayleigh, then left the Roger Pirates and had an equal battle with Crocodile.

Yeah, Luffy was never on Croc’s level pre timeskip at all.

 

[Fujishiro]

>Underestimate preskip characters to wank YCs.
>"Oda WTF you should give them that portrayal off rip"

Same disease happened with Crocodile too.
They claimed he got powercreeped & was Babanuki level, for him to walk around with a bounty of 1.9 Bil.
But instead of admitting they were wrong - the reaction is to say either Oda retconned or Oda failed to show the portrayal back in pre timeskip.

So you think Crocodiles strength wasnt retconned?

 

[zzShinichi]

This chapter is basically Mr 3's hype and by proxy Cross Guild's hype tbh

 

[Cross_Marian]

So each of them has a bounty of 900 mil?
They share one bounty poster if I remember it correctly

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

He is, but Pekoms was an infamous pirate coming into the crew and has access to sulong form which turns someone who’s weaker than Brûlée to someone who can actually fight with Daifuku.

Oh I forgot he was well known before joining the crew

 

[Sir Yasheen]

So each of them has a bounty of 900 mil?
They share one bounty poster if I remember it correctly

Nope that was a bounty that says it’s 100 million each back in Little Garden so they’re 1.8 Billion each. 3.6 billion together.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

@ConquistadoR Garling top 3 in the verse

 

[ConquistadoR]

It gets worse if you include the non canon sources.

Bullet fought equally with prime Rayleigh, then left the Roger Pirates and had an equal battle with Crocodile.

Yeah, Luffy was never on Croc’s level pre timeskip at all.

Luffy was placed in ID Lvl 5 while Croc was put in Lvl 6.

So you think Crocodiles strength wasnt retconned?

I don't believe Crocodile grew at all, if that's what your question is going towards.

Lucci is an example of a villain who actually grew in strength, came back with an Awakening and with new Rokushiki techniques (Hand Pistol instead of Finger Pistol).
Crocodile in ID/Marineford showed zero new techniques (it was the same Desert Spada, Barjan & Sables) and in fact, Croc showed superior versions of these moves back in Alabasta (Desert La Spada & Sables Pesado).

The only reason why y'all believe that Croc was retconned is cuz you also want to believe that he was actually pre-TS Luffy level in Alabasta.
I'm comfortable with the idea that Croc lost to someone far weaker than him after heavy plot armour.

 

[Dcbluffy]

No, Crocodile was already showing signs of being worth more even before the time skip, look at what he did in Impel Down and Marineford.

The man was clashing with Doffy, Jozu, Akainu, going after Whitebeard's head, Mihawk, etc... All of them are tougher than Luffy, the 'man who defeated him.
All this inflation stuff doesn't exist, Kaidou eats Kizaru for breakfast.

luffy earned tht win against crocodile he was only a rookie crocodile fs was supposed to b meant for later but he was needed for luffy first test to become stronger pts

So do you really believe the idea that Crocodile was comparable to pre-TS Luffy level ?

crocodile lost to luffy willpower a hungry rookie who had great motivation crocodile was perfect for luffy growth

 

[Seven7]

I wonder what Kizaru's reaction to the news is,
It's gotta feel terrible when you kill your best friend, regret it greatly and then have other people take the blame for it.

Loki sounds cool hopefully he isn't as insufferable as Yamato.

Also not really surprised with the Dorry and Brogy bounties haven't they been pirates for a 100+ years,
Crocodile got 1.9 billion the government ain't going cheap on these bounties especially with Big mom and Kaido gone.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

@SakazOuki @TheKnightOfTheSea honestly the Virgin Gwyn is the weakest male warrior in his line. Excluding Gwyndolin and Allfather Lloyd.

-Chad Nameless was the god of war, strength, and dragon slaying, leader of the warrior called and worshipped as the embodiment of strength
-Prime Lorian was a 20 foot monster who bisected the strongest demon of all time in one blow

What does Gwyn even have in comparison? Nothing. A bunch of non-combat feats that have nothing to do with strength in battle.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Crocodile was definitely a big deal and big player back in Alabasta

Definitely leagues above Luffy narratively despite being a shell of his former self

But that doesn't change the fact by feats he would explode and die if he got hit by Jozu.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

The only reason why y'all believe that Croc was retconned is cuz you also want to believe that he was actually pre-TS Luffy level in Alabasta.

One of the saddest copes of all time tbh. Believing Oda gave Croc a completely imaginary and unnoticeable powerup instead of just accepting that they were always wrong about Croc’s power level to begin with. Lol

 

[Fujishiro]

Luffy was placed in ID Lvl 5 while Croc was put in Lvl 6.


I don't believe Crocodile grew at all, if that's what your question is going towards.

Lucci is an example of a villain who actually grew in strength, came back with an Awakening and with new Rokushiki techniques (Hand Pistol instead of Finger Pistol).
Crocodile in ID/Marineford showed zero new techniques (it was the same Desert Spada, Barjan & Sables) and in fact, Croc showed superior versions of these moves back in Alabasta (Desert La Spada & Sables Pesado).

The only reason why y'all believe that Croc was retconned is cuz you also want to believe that he was actually pre-TS Luffy level in Alabasta.
I'm comfortable with the idea that Croc lost to someone far weaker than him after heavy plot armour.

So youd rather believe Croc lost to Luffy due to plot armor instead of believing his powerlevel was retconned after Oda realized he did him dirty?

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Crocodile was definitely a big deal and big player back in Alabasta

Definitely leagues above Luffy narratively despite being a shell of his former self

But that doesn't change the fact by feats he would explode and die if he got hit by Jozu.

Retroactive continuity

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

So youd rather believe Croc lost to Luffy due to plot armor instead of believing his powerlevel was retconned after Oda realized he did him dirty?

Just wait until they learn that Alabasta Luffy would defeat Imu in a fight if Oda plot armored his way to victory like he did against Croc lol.