Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1130 Spoilers Discussion

How Strong is Loki?


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Btw
If Shanks was above BM even
He'll be introduced after BM
He would be the one being paired with Kaido ad nigh equals
He'll be the one having the unmoved empire which lasted for decades
He'll be the one having a closer bounty next to Kaido's

Instead he was paired with dying WB (whom he himself knew wasn't strong anymore). He couldn't even dominate sickbeard.
He also counts dominate Kaido and King despite having his whole crew backing him
Both introduced first just like every weakest member of a group is introduced first :
Kuzan < kizaru < Akainu
Fuji < GB
Cracker < Smoothie < Katakuri
Jack < King /Queen

Only Mihawk and warlord case is different. Also ace case
 
Portrayal is far more important than feats, feats are subjective, statements, especially ones from the author himself, aren't.

No, Killer doesn't say "Our enemy is said to be the strongest", he says "Our enemy is the strongest pirate in the world", and Kidd concurs with him.

And it isn't the only clear statement of Kaido being called the strongest without the "known as"





That's just your headcanon, Killer states Kaido is the strongest means he is, especially when backed up by the mountain of other evidence.

So? We know he fought Shanks on the way to Marineford, and still Kaido is considered and considers himself to be the strongest.

No Luffy didn't surpass him, he beat him in a battle of attrition after Kaido went through several gauntlets.

Which again, is just one stat, and nobody has knocked out G5 in one hit, nor are they ever going to.

Lmfao no, current Luffy at best extreme diffs Wano Luffy, the only difference is that Luffy can use partial G4, which doesn't matter at all in a battle of G5 vs G5.

We already saw Luffy leave G5 without turning into an old man in Wano.

Law isn't Luffy.

Law isn't Luffy.

So just more endless headcanon, I go by what we're told and shown, not your fanfics.

Extreme diffs his Wano version at best, and still he's beneath Kaido.

Kaido is called the strongest many, many times bro, your headcanon Shonen trope arguments aren't removing that:suresure:
With their logic Shanks should also surpass WB/Roger since he's reserved last

They don't understand that whatever Shanks or any top tier does excluding Teach and Luffy
Everyone who peaked while Kaido and WB were active, is inferior to these 2
Doesn't matter whatever future feat they get
Shanks isn't getting stronger lol

Akainu defeated Kuzan a year ago, Shanks stopped Kaido 2 years ago ,...yet EVERYONE STILL SAID KAIDO IS THE STRONGEST
But they think "eos showings mean they're stronger "
 
With their logic Shanks should also surpass WB/Roger since he's reserved last

They don't understand that whatever Shanks or any top tier does excluding Teach and Luffy
Everyone who peaked while Kaido and WB were active, is inferior to these 2
Doesn't matter whatever future feat they get
Shanks isn't getting stronger lol

Akainu defeated Kuzan a year ago, Shanks stopped Kaido 2 years ago ,...yet EVERYONE STILL SAID KAIDO IS THE STRONGEST
But they think "eos showings mean they're stronger "
Salty Zori thread upcoming for sure.
 
Because they think that "insert reason" Shanks had the least bounty to get a future update in the final race and therefore portrayal

So again
Would you consider him stronger if he gets a bounty update?
It will be the first bonus thing he has over Kaido/BM
Kaido will still have other stuff that makes him > Shanks

If now Shanks becomes the new WSP
Then we can start discussing their stats to determine who's better

Just like between WB and Kaido, even OP verse debates who's stronger actually 1v1 cause both have WS titles and both were WSP at one point
 
Let’s be fair, Shanks’ bounty and his crews isn’t going to matter much because they’re not set up to be fighting the straw hats. The important bounties will be Blackbeards Pirates bounties if they defeat Shanks’ crew.
 
That's what you Rocks clown fans deserve for gassing Snitch for years. You're the first target his fandom is trying to eliminate now that he gets hype.
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Nobody based Shanks

Shanks fans were always like this
They just rallied behind thrusting for feats and now that they get 1 combat feat
A sneak attack on offguard Kidd who was attacking the fleet
:Shanks is too OP

GREENBULL feared fighting kaido more than he cared about fighting Shanks
They discard that, they only push "he froze from his COc" yet forget that GB doesn't mind fighting Shanks anytime of the day anywhere when hes not dealing with other people while he doesn't consider challenging Kaido if he's around
 
When Shanks fight Luffy/or anyone allied o him and they gotta win at any cost
Then you can show me if Shanks would perform the same stuff
Oh so you admit Shanks will fight Luffy now, cool.

You woll start crying plot armour when his attacks get tanked easily
No i wont, because its Luffy lmao, who fucking bets against the MC.

That's what happens with villains that face Luffy and alliance, their attacks will not be ending anyone easily as time passes if they gotta lose
Shanks>BM
 
If all these :
  • Teach becoming Yonko , defeating Wang Zhi a year ago
  • Shanks stopping kaido 2 years ago
  • Marineford war where top tiers fought
  • Akainu defeating Kuzan a year ago

Didn't happen and Kaido is still considered the strongest, then you could have said his hype is sketchy

But when all is recorded and the world knows how strong these guys are and yet still hype Kaido as top 1
It's time to accept that fact and move on
 
If all these :
  • Teach becoming Yonko , defeating Wang Zhi a year ago
  • Shanks stopping kaido 2 years ago
  • Marineford war where top tiers fought
  • Akainu defeating Kuzan a year ago

Didn't happen and Kaido is still considered the strongest, then you could have said his hype is sketchy

But when all is recorded and the world knows how strong these guys are and yet still hype Kaido as top 1
It's time to accept that fact and move on
Watch him go back on his words it's about Mihawk WSS title.
 
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