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How Strong is Loki?


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Sanji leading the crew per usual
Telling zoro what to do and not to do and he complies
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:kayneshrug:If there are no skyplit when they clash
Then Loki isn't truly yonko level
Oda won't miss the chance to have the usual CoC clash , and yonko will always split the skies when when clash their CoC At least once during the batte
How he stopped Zoro from exploring
 
Sanji leading the crew per usual
Telling zoro what to do and not to do and he complies
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:kayneshrug:If there are no skyplit when they clash
Then Loki isn't truly yonko level
Oda won't miss the chance to have the usual CoC clash , and yonko will always split the skies when when clash their CoC At least once during the batte
If Loki can fight AdCoC Luffy on equal footing then it doesn't matter sky split or not lol
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Now Oda really should try his best to not fuck it up completely with Loki and Elbaf.

If things are done correctly, we might get a good arc again. At least I hope so, he can't possibly fuck up his norse mythology centered arc that much, right? RIGHT?
If I know anything about Oda, it’s that he’ll find a way to fuck up anything. Never bet on Oda.

If Loki actually ends up being cool in the end, it’s a fucking miracle. Divine intervention. Proof that God exists and he wanted Loki to be cool lmfao.
 
It was always apparent that Elbaf would legit neg diff Wano and it wouldn’t even be close.

I always thought the power of Elbaf alone would annihilate any Yonko crew.

Hell, Elbaf might even defeat the Marines.

A nation of giant warriors like Dorry, Broggy and Hajrudin was always going to be insane. People shit on the giants but it was always obvious this nation was going to be batshit insane.
It is crazy if you just think about it:

Army of 1000-10000 Giants
Maybe lot of them even pose devilfruits..
Let say a regular Giant is already a mid tier
Dorry and Brogy are worth 1.84B and be above YC bounties.

And they are not even the strongest giants in Elbaf, based on Hajrudin the King is the one.
Who got killed by Loki.
Let say the Royal family has at least also a top tier or even two who are above Dorry and Brogy and worth 2B+.

Then we would have this:
2-3/4 Top tier Giants with or without devilfruits
5-10 High tier Giants with or without devilfruits
1000-10000 Mid Tier Giants with or without devilfruit

Bro I don´t even count Loki in that and look how OP they are, even Franky respect the shit of their mighty power.
Same as Big Mom....
Even without Loki, Elbaf would be able to easily fight off a Yonkou crew...
They would be able to crush Wanokuni too...

No way Samurai with just one top tier can stop such a force...
Now imagine Loki joins them as whole troup, that shit is peak op.
No Yonkou crew would be able to win over Elbaf, if Kaido tried the same move as what he did in Wano, he would be dead now alongside with his entire crew...

That is how strong Elbaf is...
 

Kizaruber Eats

Arcane has broken me for the wrong reasons.
@Kizaruber Eats
The thing is, it is fucking Big Mom who praise and hype the shit of Elbaf.
Same BM who saw literally everything, is a top tier, saw insane battles and know Kaido powerlevel, in fact the called Luffy out and said he can´t beat that THING but yet was pretty sure Elbaf with their force would crush them.

And Big Mom saying stuff like this:

You know Elbaf will be crazy.
Franky even said, how op is Loki that the entire Elbaf Nation need to prepare for just HIM...

This is a incredible hype, the fact Luffy hype his haki, the fact he killed the strongest warrior(King) without the legendary df>which he eat...
Elbaf alone should have a force to held their own ground against a Yonkou crew, even without Loki help..

Best example, two warriors of them are now worth 1.8B...
And im sure there at least two more top tiers and lot of high tiers on their side, without counting LOKI...

People not get how strong Elbaf force is.
And the fact that they need the entire Elbaf country for just Loki ALONE, this hype would Oden never get in a single time...
No one in Wano would get such a hype except Ryuma who was most likely a god tier on his own...
Yeah, Elbaf is definitely going to be something else! It's not just a strong island, it's a whole nation of giants who could apparently take down a Yonko crew. Even Big Mom, who's seen and done it all in the One Piece world, was pretty much freaking out about how strong they are.

It makes you wonder, right? Luffy's gotten super strong, but even Big Mom, who didn't think he stood a chance against Kaido, was impressed by Elbaf's power. So we're probably going to see some crazy powerful stuff, battles that'll make Marineford look small, and maybe even some new levels of strength we haven't seen before.

And yeah, the details about Loki needing a whole nation to prepare for him, and giants with billion-berry bounties... it's all pretty exciting! This is where Usopp will finally become a real warrior, and where the Straw Hats will probably face their biggest challenges yet.

Elbaf feels like the culmination of everything in One Piece so far. The final island, the big showdown, the end of this crazy adventure. I'm looking forward to seeing how it all goes down, the big battles, the secrets revealed, and what it means for the future of the One Piece world. It's gonna be wild!



No, Kaido being a pathetic scrub was confirmed by Oden. Already it’s obvious from Aura alone that Loki would take Kaido’s head off in one blow.
The same "scrub" who Green Bull and the WG and Marines were too scared to invade Wano due to being there? And Shanks had to go intercept Kaido and stop him going to Marineford on their behalf too presumably?

Oden coudn't even take down Kaido for good in base or dragon form. He never even faced his hybrid form.

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If Loki can fight AdCoC Luffy on equal footing then it doesn't matter sky split or not lol
:kata:Still matters
We need the typical yonko level feat
That will chase away every little doubt, something not even Oden , Garp and Sengoku were given despite being FA /yonko level via statements and fights.

True yonko level :
Roger, wB, Luffy, Shanks, BM, Kaido
There's no need to deny them being on this level due to the fact they did skyplit
No matter how much you hate one of them. They are al on the same level
 
Underworld boss, threatens the WG with their national treasure, knows many other secrets, made business with Yonko, was about to massacre a whole country, his crew is legit the strongest among the Warlords bar Cross Guild.

Like, how can you believe he won't end up with 2B+ bounty?
Same reason law and luffy only got 1B combined bounty after beating him
Same reason Kaido calls him a weakling

There's nothing saying Doffy will have 2B+

You guys think he's Crocodile which he isn't
Croco, Dorry, Brogy all suffered from pre ts writings
Something Doffy didn't suffer from.
 

Kizaruber Eats

Arcane has broken me for the wrong reasons.
:steef::kata::BigW:




Hm, Usopp as Thor? I never thought about it, but sure, bring it on full circle with a call back to dress rosa when he was named "God usopp" That would be hype, actually. The tontattas had a great bond with him, after all. The dwarves of the One Piece world.

:crazwhat:

That could be a good test for Usopp. Also Mjolnir never misses its target when you throw it at someone. Would be the perfect "sniping" tool / upgrade.

:beanmean:
Right?! OMG, I forgot about that about Mjolnir! That would be perfect! I'm so annoyed Van Der Decken's amazing fruit was wasted on a POS like him, I wanted Van Auger to get it (the wrong Van got it lmao) but this would be awesome!

I still want to see Usopp get a new weapon or a DF for his kabuto or eat a DF himself too! But what should that DF be? Hmm....Or even the new weapon for that matter? Nami got an upgrade from Usopp for Zou and then got Zeus too, Usopp needs some new stuff too! Hopefully he can get some awesome new ideas for plant weapons from Elbaf, GIANT flower/plant weapons but I hope the giants can help him strong and train him in haki and such.

If we're getting some of the ultimate observation in the series with Loki or Odin, how perfect for our sniper boy who LOVES the giants and Elbaf AND who got observation haki in Dressrosa and never used it again! Hes definitely gonna need it on the BIGGEST island in the series and thus the biggest opponents too!

Usopp using Mjolnir like that would be amazing, I'd love that! Imagine it chasing Van Auger around as he tries to teleport around to get away from it? Never mind homing bullets, a homing thunder hammer of the ACTUAL Gods! LMAOOOOOO!
 
It is crazy if you just think about it:

Army of 1000-10000 Giants
Maybe lot of them even pose devilfruits..
Let say a regular Giant is already a mid tier
Dorry and Brogy are worth 1.84B and be above YC bounties.

And they are not even the strongest giants in Elbaf, based on Hajrudin the King is the one.
Who got killed by Loki.
Let say the Royal family has at least also a top tier or even two who are above Dorry and Brogy and worth 2B+.

Then we would have this:
2-3/4 Top tier Giants with or without devilfruits
5-10 High tier Giants with or without devilfruits
1000-10000 Mid Tier Giants with or without devilfruit

Bro I don´t even count Loki in that and look how OP they are, even Franky respect the shit of their mighty power.
Same as Big Mom....
Even without Loki, Elbaf would be able to easily fight off a Yonkou crew...
They would be able to crush Wanokuni too...

No way Samurai with just one top tier can stop such a force...
Now imagine Loki joins them as whole troup, that shit is peak op.
No Yonkou crew would be able to win over Elbaf, if Kaido tried the same move as what he did in Wano, he would be dead now alongside with his entire crew...

That is how strong Elbaf is...


The same was said by wano lol. That it had like 10 Yc1, 5 Yc2 and bla bla bla.

They were just top tier fodders while they elite at best were Yc2. At best, as we dont even know really how strong at the end they were. Kinemon wa snegfed by Law. That same Law negged a giant at Punk Hazard.

And its obvious their bounty doesn't only represent their level, but also their authority over their crew.
 
I don't know why people keep pushing Crocodile narratives on Doffy

There's no prison gain for Doffy
He never lost his ambitions and wasn't beaten during pre ts or whatever
 
Crocodile reached post TS Luffy level by marineford. So it makes sense he went to 2b in post timeskip

Doffy was still weak just 300 chapters ago. I doubt Oda is going to have him improve and suddenly be above top yonkou commanders.

Also with the existence of the seraphim, why bring back all the warlords? That's just creating clutter in the final war.
 
Same reason law and luffy only got 1B combined bounty after beating him
Same reason Kaido calls him a weakling

There's nothing saying Doffy will have 2B+

You guys think he's Crocodile which he isn't
Croco, Dorry, Brogy all suffered from pre ts writings
Something Doffy didn't suffer from.
Jimbei's post-ts bounty was just a few hundred million berries even though he was part of another Yonko crew (Big Mom pirates). But after Wano, he suddenly got 1B+ bounty. Can you explain why?
 
Crocodile reached post TS Luffy level by marineford. So it makes sense he went to 2b in post timeskip

Doffy was still weak just 300 chapters ago. I doubt Oda is going to have him improve and suddenly be above top yonkou commanders.

Also with the existence of the seraphim, why bring back all the warlords? That's just creating clutter in the final war.
Fans just can't accept Doffy is not that guy and won't bring nothing much anymore
 
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