Chapter Discussion Wano-Kuni Rewrite: Act1,Act2,&Act3

[BoaHancocksHusband]

First off

Everything can stay same for Act1 except
No Big Mom Pirates
NONE
NONNNNNNNNNE

SAVE BIG MOM for a tiny beginning part of Elbaf

Marco comes and helps Luffy escape the prison, no bullshit Red Scabbards. Only Kinemon, Momonosuke, and some samurai alongside Neko and Inu aka only three. + three samurai aka only 6 scabbards

So three samurai. Additionally Make Denjiro stay evil, he is powerful enough to be Zoro's opponent for Act 3's first quarter. Add some drama with the reason he betrayed and his experience these 20 years.

Wipe out Kanjuro by Orochi killing him +40 menacing points for Orochi=more tension.
Marco faces Queen
Sanji and Zoro face King
Jinbe+Usopp face Jack
Nami+Chopper faces Black Maria
NO GODDAMN HORDES OF GIFTERS ONSCREEN
Headliners can stay, just be weaker and more easily discarded.
Orochi is defeated by Kinemon
Momonosuke attacks Kaido which helps slightly.Thats his moment


make the rooftop just law kid and luffy

killer can face hawkins DURING this
the trio turn kaido to hybrid
zoro can face king during this

total of 100 chapters

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Kaido being defeated by Kid, Law, and Luffy would make a lot more sense pacing wise.

Luffy got more power ups in one arc than he got in the entire pre skip just to beat Kaido.

Post automatically merged: Oct 20, 2024

However if Luffy didn’t 1v1 Kaido, then he couldn’t be a yonko post wano, meaning the story would need to go on even longer.

So Oda needed to make a tough call and asspulled Luffy to yonko level

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Kaido being defeated by Kid, Law, and Luffy would make a lot more sense pacing wise.

Luffy got more power ups in one arc than he got in the entire pre skip just to beat Kaido.

Post automatically merged: Oct 20, 2024

However if Luffy didn’t 1v1 Kaido, then he couldn’t be a yonko post wano, meaning the story would need to go on even longer.

So Oda needed to make a tough call and asspulled Luffy to yonko level

why cant he

he had the highest bounty amongst the 3

 

[Monkey D Theories]

why cant he

he had the highest bounty amongst the 3

Why couldn’t he be yonko?

because unless you’re buggy, you actually need to be extremely strong to be a yonko.

If Luffy didn’t 1v1 Kaido, he’d have met the same fate as Kid and Law

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Why couldn’t he be yonko?

because unless you’re buggy, you actually need to be extremely strong to be a yonko.

If Luffy didn’t 1v1 Kaido, he’d have met the same fate as Kid and Law

not really

you can spin it as Luffy carrying and being helped by lesser pirates worth 470 and 500 million

 

[Monkey D Theories]

not really

you can spin it as Luffy carrying and being helped by lesser pirates worth 470 and 500 million

If he needs to 3v1, he doesn’t deserve to be yonko

Even if Kid and Law are significantly weaker

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

If he needs to 3v1, he doesn’t deserve to be yonko

Even if Kid and Law are significantly weaker

Deserve=/=Possible

 

[Kizaruber Eats]

First off

Everything can stay same for Act1 except
No Big Mom Pirates
NONE
NONNNNNNNNNE

SAVE BIG MOM for a tiny beginning part of Elbaf

Marco comes and helps Luffy escape the prison, no bullshit Red Scabbards. Only Kinemon, Momonosuke, and some samurai alongside Neko and Inu aka only three. + three samurai aka only 6 scabbards

So three samurai. Additionally Make Denjiro stay evil, he is powerful enough to be Zoro's opponent for Act 3's first quarter. Add some drama with the reason he betrayed and his experience these 20 years.

Wipe out Kanjuro by Orochi killing him +40 menacing points for Orochi=more tension.
Marco faces Queen
Sanji and Zoro face King
Jinbe+Usopp face Jack
Nami+Chopper faces Black Maria
NO GODDAMN HORDES OF GIFTERS ONSCREEN
Headliners can stay, just be weaker and more easily discarded.
Orochi is defeated by Kinemon
Momonosuke attacks Kaido which helps slightly.Thats his moment


make the rooftop just law kid and luffy

killer can face hawkins DURING this
the trio turn kaido to hybrid
zoro can face king during this

total of 100 chapters

This is so much bettter its not even funny. Makes me really angry and sad things couldnt be this straightforward, simpler, shorter etc. I would change and add some things here and there but this is immensely better than the nightmare we got.

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

This is so much bettter its not even funny. Makes me really angry and sad things couldnt be this straightforward, simpler, shorter etc. I would change and add some things here and there but this is immensely better than the nightmare we got.

Honestly not a hard job to do. Wano had 0 good ninjas or samurai

 

[gz89]

Less Scabbards, less Tama, less twerking in Oden's fb, less of Yamato's cringe i am Oden, less Kaido's character sacrifice to hype Oden, more Kaido back story.

Let the navy (Kizaru or Aramaki even better since we didnt know him yet) to assist the alliance and fight/beat BM.

Whats the point of this shit writing with Law/Kid win against Meme and have them lose like rookies a few chapters later.

 

[MasterD]

Must be nice being an experienced mangaka

 

[NikaInParis]

Kaido being defeated by Kid, Law, and Luffy would make a lot more sense pacing wise.

Luffy got more power ups in one arc than he got in the entire pre skip just to beat Kaido.

Post automatically merged: Oct 20, 2024

However if Luffy didn’t 1v1 Kaido, then he couldn’t be a yonko post wano, meaning the story would need to go on even longer.

So Oda needed to make a tough call and asspulled Luffy to yonko level

Luffy would still be framed as the mastermind behind the alliance and be thr new Yonko replacing Kaido. It's that simple because Morgans is the one that shapes public opinion

 

[moreha9685]

However if Luffy didn’t 1v1 Kaido, then he couldn’t be a yonko post wano, meaning the story would need to go on even longer.

I think would've worked perfectly. Have the alliance Luffy-Kid-Law be responsible publicly for BBPs defeat, but have none of them take over the title of Emperor.

Maybe they get a "potential Emperor" title, much like Sabo's. Maybe even "worst of the worst gen" or "Ultimate Supernovas".

Then have Law be defeated by BB, and Kid by Shanks -- to which the WG wonder if maybe they jumped the gun with the titles, since the three Supernovas don't seem to actually have what it takes.

Now Egghead becomes the arc where Luffy has to prove his worth directly to the WG, both by going against his first Admiral and by keeping at bay the Gorosei. Thus, the only standing "Supernova" explodes into the "Sun Emperor".

You have the newspaper accusing Luffy of Vegapunk's death organically flow into him earning the title of Emperor, only to show how still out of his depth he is by immediately being kidnapped on Elbaf by the giant goon and then meeting a powerhouse in the shape of Loki.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Less Kaido's character sacrifice to hype Oden, more Kaido back story.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

First off

Everything can stay same for Act1 except
No Big Mom Pirates
NONE
NONNNNNNNNNE

SAVE BIG MOM for a tiny beginning part of Elbaf

Marco comes and helps Luffy escape the prison, no bullshit Red Scabbards. Only Kinemon, Momonosuke, and some samurai alongside Neko and Inu aka only three. + three samurai aka only 6 scabbards

So three samurai. Additionally Make Denjiro stay evil, he is powerful enough to be Zoro's opponent for Act 3's first quarter. Add some drama with the reason he betrayed and his experience these 20 years.

Wipe out Kanjuro by Orochi killing him +40 menacing points for Orochi=more tension.
Marco faces Queen
Sanji and Zoro face King
Jinbe+Usopp face Jack
Nami+Chopper faces Black Maria
NO GODDAMN HORDES OF GIFTERS ONSCREEN
Headliners can stay, just be weaker and more easily discarded.
Orochi is defeated by Kinemon
Momonosuke attacks Kaido which helps slightly.Thats his moment


make the rooftop just law kid and luffy

killer can face hawkins DURING this
the trio turn kaido to hybrid
zoro can face king during this

total of 100 chapters

This sound far better, I would give each Luffy,Kid and Law 2B after beating Kaido.
Also I would not replace Kaido titel as Yonkou yet, like how nobody took Whitebeard Yonkou title after he died, it took 1 year before Teach earned that title.

Kaido lose against awakened Luffy,awakened Kid and awakened Law would be far better, it would show how 3 supernova been needed to defeat the strongest creature.

Also less Tama and Udon stuff, cut little of Oden flashback, make the battle with Oden vs Kaido far interesting without shitting on one of them(Like let Oden fight him for days in base form where we see Skysplit and adv CoC clashes), so much that both been damaged, would show some of Base Kaido moveset against Oden, switch to Dragon Kaido and let Oden cut him deep with a visual epic attack and then I would use the plot with the old hag, but I would show Oden getting hit by Hybrid Kaido(not totally shown) with adv CoC.

Far better portrayal for both Kaido and Oden.
And I would solve the Big Mom plot in Elbaf, also I would give Luffy the Yonkou title after Egghead, would reach 3B after Egghead.

That would be a far better writing style for Wano.
And im sure Oda firstly thought something like that, sadly he added Big Mom and the arc became a mess.
I wish he would have a veteran editor telling him to cut off stuff.

Wano never been deserved to be over 100chapter+....
I would add Yamato too and would replace her with the scabbards at the rooftop, losing to Kaido, only to get saved by Luffy,Law and Kid.

 

[JoNdule]

Act 3 :
Retainers vs Kaido still happens. All of them are dine done the arc after losing bar Dukes & Kinnemon

Kinnemon and Momo get to beat Kanjuro

SN trio take down Kaido,
Law weakens Kaido with his awakening then gets beaten, while awakened Kid and adcoc G4 Luffy continue fighting him
Kid lands a finish blow but kaido still gets up,
Luffy gets to finish kaido 1v1 in the last 10 minutes

BM may come but goes back to tottoland once she and Kaido decided to team up

Zoro and Sanji still fight Calamities
Jack & Perospero still fight Dukes
Make WsW more powerful so that his fight with Jinbei becomes very high diff battle
Chopper and Brook get to beat Ulti
Make Ussop and Nami tagteam P1

Let flyers use haki onscreen against weak and mid trio

Drake fights Apoo + 1 number.
Hawkins fights Killer. Make Hawkins a little more powerful

During act 2 of Udon :
Let Kid train his df and haki more
Show him improve his haki there

In fact you can have BMP fight in the war
It solves many things too :

Kaido vs Luffy & Yamato. Luffy still gets adcoc and even awakening after yamato weakens Kaido.
BM vs Kid, Law & Killer. Killer gets a powerup while Law and Kid gets CoA/CoC upgrade on top of awakening
King vs Marco
Smoothie vs Zoro
Queen vs Sanji

 

[Logiko]

First off

Everything can stay same for Act1 except
No Big Mom Pirates
NONE
NONNNNNNNNNE

SAVE BIG MOM for a tiny beginning part of Elbaf

Marco comes and helps Luffy escape the prison, no bullshit Red Scabbards. Only Kinemon, Momonosuke, and some samurai alongside Neko and Inu aka only three. + three samurai aka only 6 scabbards

So three samurai. Additionally Make Denjiro stay evil, he is powerful enough to be Zoro's opponent for Act 3's first quarter. Add some drama with the reason he betrayed and his experience these 20 years.

Wipe out Kanjuro by Orochi killing him +40 menacing points for Orochi=more tension.
Marco faces Queen
Sanji and Zoro face King
Jinbe+Usopp face Jack
Nami+Chopper faces Black Maria
NO GODDAMN HORDES OF GIFTERS ONSCREEN
Headliners can stay, just be weaker and more easily discarded.
Orochi is defeated by Kinemon
Momonosuke attacks Kaido which helps slightly.Thats his moment


make the rooftop just law kid and luffy

killer can face hawkins DURING this
the trio turn kaido to hybrid
zoro can face king during this

total of 100 chapters

It's incredible how people think they can write better stuff than Oda, but completely fail to understand the reasons why there are specific plot points in the narration in the first place. And it's not just you, it's the problem of many people here.

What you do is the same thing as saying that you will make a better bread than the baker while ignoring that you need to put flour in it.

Little example : When you say that Nami and Chopper should face Black Maria.. You remove completely the narrative value behind:

- Sanji calling Robin
- Why Robin actually came in the first place
- Why Robin VS Maria is by design more interesting in term of character development than Nami VS Black Maria
- The reason why there is a narrative values in term of powers struggle
- The reason why Black Maria is a spider to begin with
- The reason why Robin had to use Demonio Fleur
- Negate the narrative value of Robin's power up

In other word, you remove Robin's biggest and most impressive fight of the serie to replace it with something completely meaningless.

That's the problem with this part of the fanbase. You guyz scream that you don't like the story and when it comes to do something better, you ignore ALL the meaningfull narrative element that creates the story to begin with, proving that your distaste for One Piece is based on the missunderstanding of the major plot points.

I just showed you one point, but it goes for all of them. Really.. this is tiring.

 

[gz89]

It's incredible how people think they can write better stuff than Oda, but completely fail to understand the reasons why there are specific plot points in the narration in the first place. And it's not just you, it's the problem of many people here.

What you do is the same thing as saying that you will make a better bread than the baker while ignoring that you need to put flour in it.

Little example : When you say that Nami and Chopper should face Black Maria.. You remove completely the narrative value behind:

- Sanji calling Robin
- Why Robin actually came in the first place
- Why Robin VS Maria is by design more interesting in term of character development than Nami VS Black Maria
- The reason why there is a narrative values in term of powers struggle
- The reason why Black Maria is a spider to begin with
- The reason why Robin had to use Demonio Fleur
- Negate the narrative value of Robin's power up

In other word, you remove Robin's biggest and most impressive fight of the serie to replace it with something completely meaningless.

That's the problem with this part of the fanbase. You guyz scream that you don't like the story and when it comes to do something better, you ignore ALL the meaningfull narrative element that creates the story to begin with, proving that your distaste for One Piece is based on the missunderstanding of the major plot points.

I just showed you one point, but it goes for all of them. Really.. this is tiring.

You want to know something ? Most people dont care about Robin now days.
Do you want to know whos fault is that ? Oda's.

 

[Logiko]

You want to know something ? Most people dont care about Robin now days.
Do you want to know whos fault is that ? Oda's.

No it's not Oda's fault. It's yours mate. Oda still writes Robin magnifically, but you guys are so focused on your expectations that even when he puts everything into her fight and her development, you are incapable of seeing it.

You guyz are the only reasons why you don't like Robin at the moment. And also the only reason why you think you can rewrite One Piece while understanding nothing about it.

 

[moreha9685]

Here comes the rant