Questions & Mysteries Why are people so hellbent on awakening?
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Well, for characters like kaido and big mom I don’t think they didn’t awaken their fruits because they weren’t strong enough or whatever. I think it has to do with the connection between the user and the fruit and also the mind of the user, see kaido and the dragon fruit, the dragon fruit is not for someone of kaido’s mind, it’s more for someone of momo’s mind, a dragon is very honorable and knightish, like older momo. Meanwhile kaido’s mind is evil, cruel, dictatorish. Meanwhile let’s go with doflamingo, he awakened his fruit, why? Because his strings are like puppet strings, are a symbol of controlling someone or something and used to control puppets and things, that’s how Doffy’s mind works, he wants to control everyone, make them hypnotized and manipulated by him. There are some other users, like LLaw, his fruit needs to be used by someone extremely smart and who’s a doctor, like LLaw. If Kid and LLaw swapped fruits they wouldn’t awaken them, because yes their relatively equal in strength (with Kid obviously being stronger) but their personality and mind is key in awakening a fruit
Well that’s oda
It’s honestly quite weird that someone like kaido can’t awaken his fruit while kaku did that in 2 years
if it’s skilled based then kaido should absolutely be someone who can awaken his fruit
He is a very experienced fighter and he knows exactly how awakening works
there is a reason why he is constantly trolled in that panel
It’s honestly quite weird that someone like kaido can’t awaken his fruit while kaku did that in 2 years
if it’s skilled based then kaido should absolutely be someone who can awaken his fruit
He is a very experienced fighter and he knows exactly how awakening works
there is a reason why he is constantly trolled in that panel
Well that’s oda
It’s honestly quite weird that someone like kaido can’t awaken his fruit while kaku did that in 2 years
if it’s skilled based then kaido should absolutely be someone who can awaken his fruit
He is a very experienced fighter and he knows exactly how awakening works
there is a reason why he is constantly trolled in that panel
It’s honestly quite weird that someone like kaido can’t awaken his fruit while kaku did that in 2 years
if it’s skilled based then kaido should absolutely be someone who can awaken his fruit
He is a very experienced fighter and he knows exactly how awakening works
there is a reason why he is constantly trolled in that panel
But we all know the out story reason that Kaido was already too strong so Oda couldn't give him awakening on top of everything he gave him power level wise
My point is that Kaido isn't some entity with a pre set level of power that exists beyond the reach of Oda's pencil. If he wanted awakening in his skill set, a simple writing adjustment would have done the trick without any need to overall make him any weaker or stronger.
Basically, awakening didn't need to be written as a powerup on top of what he did show in canon. It could have been squeezed in wherever Oda deemed appopriate within his existing power set.
Basically, awakening didn't need to be written as a powerup on top of what he did show in canon. It could have been squeezed in wherever Oda deemed appopriate within his existing power set.
If this was such an issue, Oda wouldn’t have taken a month long break
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I mean doffy and Kata both previous arc antagonist had awakening. Everyone expected Kaido to have awakening. Same goes for BM.
And power level do matter. I am not saying Kaido should have all. Personally I would have preferred awakening over adv coc coating.
The level of adv coc oda did to Kaido is probably 1st level. Why didn't Kaido showed wifi haki like shanks and joyboy? Because that would make Kaido much stronger.
Adv coc coating is strong power but imo awakening would have been better. Kaido's peak DF ability is island level flame magma mode which is better than adv coc coating. Now imagine Kaido having more powerful abilities in awakening. Kaido minus adv coc + awakening had the potential to be above what we got.
The only interesting thing about Kaido at this point is his Oni heritage and baby mamma. He already laid out the bare bones of his backstory and it was pretty generic for a powerhouse lol getting used as a tool of war and battle then captured in some prison but then breaking out
No tragic or sob story component which is what Oda preserves the fbs for
No tragic or sob story component which is what Oda preserves the fbs for
I have a suspicion that Oda intended on giving Kaido a flashback at first, but decided he wouldn't because:
1. He gave some elements of it to Orochi's backstory and flashback.
2. Spoiled too much of the Void Century/Joyboy plotline. Oni's will probably be relevant in it to some degree.
3. He decided the God Valley flashback that's coming later would be good enough for Kaido.
but I think you're spot on that Oda intended him to have a deeper backstory related to the suicidal tendencies
Senor Pink
1. He gave some elements of it to Orochi's backstory and flashback.
2. Spoiled too much of the Void Century/Joyboy plotline. Oni's will probably be relevant in it to some degree.
3. He decided the God Valley flashback that's coming later would be good enough for Kaido.
but I think you're spot on that Oda intended him to have a deeper backstory related to the suicidal tendencies
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Senor Pink
Franky’s opponent Senor Pink wasn’t originally even supposed to get a flashback lol Oda’s editor convinced him to do that because of how sad it was btw
That being said I did dislike how Kaido’s was very short at first but I’m actually ok with it now. His interesting lore is prob with Rocks and that’s like endgame lore
Not everybody in OP needs a complex sad tragic story which once again is what Oda tends to prioritize in fbs. Kaido was just simply treating Marines like McDs and prison breaking with a new subordinate on board. I still do wanna know about his Oni heritage
That being said I did dislike how Kaido’s was very short at first but I’m actually ok with it now. His interesting lore is prob with Rocks and that’s like endgame lore
Not everybody in OP needs a complex sad tragic story which once again is what Oda tends to prioritize in fbs. Kaido was just simply treating Marines like McDs and prison breaking with a new subordinate on board. I still do wanna know about his Oni heritage
The concept of Awakeing was fine at the start but later on only non-top tiers got it(enemys) or just the good guys
After Kaido AND BM did not got it,i have no hope in that shit anymore.Sure,awakening would be an overkill in Wano if the Rox Duo get it but their is no excuse that Doffy/Kata got it but no this 2
After Kaido AND BM did not got it,i have no hope in that shit anymore.Sure,awakening would be an overkill in Wano if the Rox Duo get it but their is no excuse that Doffy/Kata got it but no this 2