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Actually we need to reevaluate current luffy's power level in general. It seems at least for now Bajrung gun aside , he is low top tier level at max in G5. None of the other attacks he has shown is even close to Bajrung gun for example.

WSG maybe be weaker than over kong gun. The main thing luffy gains from G5 compared to G4 is much higher endurance where he can take attacks like death destroyer without any issues or spit Kizaru's light attacks. He also gets more flexibility other than that.

Bajrung gun for now is the exception of an attack which luffy has done till now in G5. Simply shows what kind of an attack was needed to put down an already tired Kaido.
Goofy being low top tier is about right. I would classify Admirals at around the same level. Had Kizaru not been running away we may have gotten a much different but still close outcome

All OG Yonkos are above Goofy without G5 without doubt. With G5 he becomes on par with them but his time limit is ass. He runs out before they even get to their final attacks unless he pulls out BG
 
Which he never did in egghead. Oda always provided opportunity to give him food than that. But do you agree without the ability to pump his heart , he isn't mid-high top tier? We shall see if he can do that in elbaph.
He never did it in Egghead due to plot.
But yeah, without the ability to pump his heart then he's not a mid-high top tier, because he can't sustain G5 long enough to beat another top tier.
 
Goofy being low top tier is about right. I would classify Admirals at around the same level. Had Kizaru not been running away we may have gotten a much different but still close outcome

All OG Yonkos are above Goofy without G5 without doubt. With G5 he becomes on par with them but his time limit is ass. He runs out before they even get to their final attacks unless he pulls out BG
Tbh if Kizaru who doesn't have any special dura like Kaido or BM can tank an attack like WSG to his head , it makes luffy looks like ass. Its also his strongest attack after BG in G5. I am not saying Kidd and Kizaru have same endurance but still shanks easily K.O.ed and one shotted kidd who can be assumed as an inbetweener level.
 
Tbh if Kizaru who doesn't have any special dura like Kaido or BM can tank an attack like WSG to his head , it makes luffy looks like ass. Its also his strongest attack after BG in G5. I am not saying Kidd and Kizaru have same endurance but still shanks easily K.O.ed and one shotted kidd who can be assumed as an inbetweener level.
Or maybe Kizaru is just a top tier who's not going to get one shot even by a move like Star Gun?
I mean even though he's below Kaido he's still not a weakling or anything
So it's not bad for Luffy if Kizaru can take Star Gun and keep fighting
 
Tbh if Kizaru who doesn't have any special dura like Kaido or BM can tank an attack like WSG to his head , it makes luffy looks like ass. Its also his strongest attack after BG in G5. I am not saying Kidd and Kizaru have same endurance but still shanks easily K.O.ed and one shotted kidd who can be assumed as an inbetweener level.
Goofy crush-gripped him and turned him into a pancake like nothing. WSG doesn’t even look stronger than some of his G3/G4 moves. Not sure where this idea of it being his next strongest move is coming from considering Goofy did something similar to Kaido and Kaido didn’t drop like Kizaru did

And not one-shotting Kizaru with WSG isn’t a bad look. You don’t expect a top tier to go down after one named attack. I would argue Shockwille > WSG too given the former had an equal effect on tankier top tiers and they didn’t go down

5B > 4B > 3B as a general tier list for current arc. He even bumped up BB to be in the 4B range. Oda gave us these bounties for a good reason
 
Goofy crush-gripped him and turned him into a pancake like nothing. WSG doesn’t even look stronger than some of his G3/G4 moves. Not sure where this idea of it being his next strongest move is coming from considering Goofy did something similar to Kaido and Kaido didn’t drop like Kizaru did

And not one-shotting Kizaru with WSG isn’t a bad look. You don’t expect a top tier to go down after one named attack. I would argue Shockwille > WSG too given the former had an equal effect on tankier top tiers and they didn’t go down

5B > 4B > 3B as a general tier list for current arc. He even bumped up BB to be in the 4B range. Oda gave us these bounties for a good reason
But how many attacks would it take for Luffy to KO/paralyze Kizaru?
 
But how many attacks would it take for Luffy to KO/paralyze Kizaru?
It depends whether Goofy is using ACoC or not either. 90% chance there was no ACoC in WSG just CoA considering Goofy always uses ACoA emission + ACoC for ACoC attacks

No ACoC, it would take several hits because his AP is just ass. With ACoC, probably a few hits to the head

For now I am going to assume no ACoC since he almost never showed it in Egghead and only used it against Kaido who tanked dozens of those hits
 
Did you miss the SBS? That was after Kizaru fed Luffy, so the feat is completely void. We know Kizaru was using Luffy to stay down on purpose confirmed now, so that pizza stuff means less than nothing. Kizaru was pretty much on Luffy's side.
He still hurt Kizaru, who coughed up blood. I didn’t say he KOd Kizaru only that he could damage him. Turning into a pizza definitely had an effect even if Kizaru could get up from it
 
It depends whether Goofy is using ACoC or not either. 90% chance there was no ACoC in WSG just CoA considering Goofy always uses ACoA emission + ACoC for ACoC attacks

No ACoC, it would take several hits because his AP is just ass. With ACoC, probably a few hits to the head

For now I am going to assume no ACoC since he almost never showed it in Egghead and only used it against Kaido who tanked dozens of those hits
No ACoC he'd probably need like 10 or more attacks to put him down
With ACoC about 4 or 5
 

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He still hurt Kizaru, who coughed up blood. I didn’t say he KOd Kizaru only that he could damage him. Turning into a pizza definitely had an effect even if Kizaru could get up from it
This is like when Kaidou got turned into a jump rope or body slammed in Looney Tunes fashion, except if Kaidou simply used that to stay down on purpose.

It's literally void, there's no point of bringing up any pro Luffy feat in that fight after the SBS confirmation.

The only thing we can derive is Luffy being taken to complete exhaustion by a distracted Kizaru who could still move around. This is why that SBS reveal was such a massive shot towards Luffy, there's just no coming back from that.
 
Goofy crush-gripped him and turned him into a pancake like nothing. WSG doesn’t even look stronger than some of his G3/G4 moves. Not sure where this idea of it being his next strongest move is coming from considering Goofy did something similar to Kaido and Kaido didn’t drop like Kizaru did

And not one-shotting Kizaru with WSG isn’t a bad look. You don’t expect a top tier to go down after one named attack. I would argue Shockwille > WSG too given the former had an equal effect on tankier top tiers and they didn’t go down

5B > 4B > 3B as a general tier list for current arc. He even bumped up BB to be in the 4B range. Oda gave us these bounties for a good reason
I don't think that pizza attack did much to Kizaru. I do think he was simply acting to be defeated. WSG is an adv coc attack which landed on Kizaru's head where as pizza thing was a gag attack. But its hard to tell.

If luffy in G5 shows attacks on BG level then things will change. I hope luffy shows attacks on that level.
 
This is like when Kaidou got turned into a jump rope or body slammed in Looney Tunes fashion, except if Kaidou simply used that to stay down on purpose.

It's literally void, there's no point of bringing up any pro Luffy feat in that fight after the SBS confirmation.

The only thing we can derive is Luffy being taken to complete exhaustion by a distracted Kizaru who could still move around. This is why that SBS reveal was such a massive shot towards Luffy, there's just no coming back from that.
We know for sure that Kizaru felt WSG hard since we read his thoughts “I’m seeing stars!” Then he vicegripped him hard enough to cough blood and slammed him onto Saturn using Dawn Cymbal. Kizaru was even trynna eyelaser him out of it. Both attacks looked equally devastating to me

G5 Goofy can hurt Kizaru is certain. In a direct 1v1 things would go very differently imo and Kizaru might even be actually paralyzed longer with enough hits. G5 would still tap out tho and I think Kizaru would get up before he recovers
 
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