Powers & Abilities Zoro does not have CoC

[Juanpiz]

LOL it's so funny how fruits and haki aren't common knowledge, like what would commanders be known for?,

I don’t get you right now

 

[Blax Blah]

I don’t get you right now

Emperors would be known for ruling part of the grandline, admirals, I don't know, maybe as commanding lots of fleets, but what would commanders be known for?,

Since haki and fruits are not common knowledge so people may not know that the emperors commanders and admirals are very strong,

 

[Juanpiz]

Emperors would be known for ruling part of the grandline, admirals, I don't know, maybe as commanding lots of fleets, but what would commanders be known for?,

Since haki and fruits are not common knowledge so people may not know that the emperors commanders and admirals are very strong,

Being experienced and skillful fighters

 

[Blax Blah]

Being experienced and skillful fighters

Yeah but if the fact that fighters that strong exist isn't common knowledge, what would they be known for?,

 

[BigAmmi]

> if i admit that zolo hasn't coc
> they have to admit that he is doing incredible feats with only his coa
> they have to admit that when zolo will have coc he will be so op that no one can match him

 

[CbShadow]

This is more logical conclusion than believing Zoro has CoC which is not even confirmed.

Zoro hasnt been able to CoC once after Wano. Why is that the case if he has CoC?

Once Zoro left Wano, he somehow has been unable to use it and that's because now the situations arent favoring him anymore


That was BM using CoC.
Check chapter 1036, BM was fighting at the same time as Zoro vs King. She was using CoC so when the BPs around Zoro got knocked out by it King confused it for Zoro's CoC

Not a good argument considering how little we have seen Luffy use ACoC since Wano.

Luffy failed to save Dr. Vegapunk because he wasn't strong enough and needed giants and the real Joyboy help to survive his encounter with the Marines and world government. It doesn't make any sense for Luffy not to use all his power against the marines and world government on Egghead Island.

Based on your argument, Luffy can no longer use ACoC or his ACoC skills are low and he can't control ACoC haki.

The "it was BM CoC haki" argument doesn't work here. When fodders were knocked out they had no idea what happened and assume it was CoC haki. Then Usopp used that opportunity to take credit for it and make himself look stronger.

Afterwards the manga told us it was Big Mom CoC that knocked them out.

With Zoro, it's a very different situation. The scenes were about Zoro using overwhelming haki and mastering enma. We see Zoro's haki (black lightning) knock out fodders. King tells us it was Zoro's haki.

 

[Blax Blah]

> if i admit that zolo hasn't coc
> they have to admit that he is doing incredible feats with only his coa
> they have to admit that when zolo will have coc he will be so op that no one can match him

Woro,

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Not a good argument considering how little we have seen Luffy use ACoC since Wano.

Luffy failed to save Dr. Vegapunk because he wasn't strong enough and needed giants and the real Joyboy help to survive his encounter with the Marines and world government. It doesn't make any sense for Luffy not to use all his power against the marines and world government on Egghead Island.

Based on your argument, Luffy can no longer use ACoC or his ACoC skills are low and he can't control ACoC haki.

The "it was BM CoC haki" argument doesn't work here. When fodders were knocked out they had no idea what happened and assume it was CoC haki. Then Usopp used that opportunity to take credit for it and make himself look stronger.

Afterwards the manga told us it was Big Mom CoC that knocked them out.

With Zoro, it's a very different situation. The scenes were about Zoro using overwhelming haki and mastering enma. We see Zoro's haki (black lightning) knock out fodders. King tells us it was Zoro's haki.

The panels are so beautiful =],

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Enma looks like a 3d model coming out of the panels and screen,

 

[Thabeast]

Oda does apparently

the primary source (which is the official manga) already says zoro has all versions of haki. we don't need vivrecards for that.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Zoro's CoC is clearly being kept ambiguous by story/Shueisha even though we know he has it. That's what's funny and weird

Hmmm I guess it’s until Zoro actually realizes he has it… which is weird since he can use it yet he doesn’t know he has it

 

[Albino 👑]

Wdym zoro unlocked coc vs kaido
It was a dire situation similar to luffy at boa island or ace when luffy was about to get clubbed by the bandit
Zoro was in a similar situation with kaido having luffy at his mercy
Against king he awakened acoc
The black lighting is coming from bbp and they get ko and its green

Learn to read

2. Kaido asks zoro if he used conquerors after he cut and scarred him. That imo implying zoro can already physically effect things with his will. That essentially being what conquerors is and while he might not have specifically used conquerors haki asura might be will given shape. It making sense as to why kaido was confused
That insinuating that zoro will be able to attack with actconquerors

 

[Kiri]

"It was big moms haki!"

 

[ZenZu]

In any event, I would prefer Zoro to have it.

That said, I don't think Oda has done a good job as telling us why he should. The cool factor is undeniable, and there's that symmetry of other legendary pirate captains having crew members with CoC, but when it comes to Zoro specifically, I don't think what defines him as a conqueror is clear. Because I don't think it's his ambition.

Zoro's desire to be the strongest swordsman in the world has nothing to do with him wanting to conquer anyone or anything.

Not too wax too poetically but I think what all the known conquerors have in common is not merely ambition, competitiveness or drive - but an innate desire to live life completely on their own terms, however unreasonable or downright delusional, thereby in essence conquering life itself.

If that sounds crazy, I ask you which of them isn't a little crazy? I've complained about there being too many people with CoC, but I could not deny that, at least, perceived requirement is met by Garp and Don Chinjao among others.

I think Zoro's desire to conquer is not something one has to overthink. He lost his best friend to death. Now he will conquer the underworld itself if it means to protect those he cares about. King of Hell and Asura should imo be exstremely power CoC moves on par with Kaidou's attack power, i.e. capable of killing him.

I went off on a tangent there, but the bottom line is that though I can accept Zoro may canonically not have CoC (doesn't bar him from unlocking it still), I definitely think he should.

All this yapping for what?

 

[Mr.9000]

Nah he has Coc. Why would King say, kingly ambition if he didnt use it?

 

[HellBlazer04]

"It was big moms haki!"

He's using CoA at max to stabilize the sword.

The fodders are getting knocked out by Big Mom's Conquerors

 

[Thaidakar]

7 pages for this 'topic'
This fucking week

 

[HellBlazer04]

With Zoro, it's a very different situation. The scenes were about Zoro using overwhelming haki and mastering enma. We see Zoro's haki (black lightning) knock out fodders. King tells us it was Zoro's haki.

King wasn't able to identify that Big Mom was using CoC.
Zoro used CoA at max to get Enma in control. There's no mention of CoC anywhere regarding Enma.
The reason Zoro has black lightning is because when he uses overwhelming amount of CoA it causes lightning

 

[Rumble]

All this yapping for what?

The simple pleasure of knowing you'd struggle to read it, retard.

 

[Wizak08]

King wasn't able to identify that Big Mom was using CoC.
Zoro used CoA at max to get Enma in control. There's no mention of CoC anywhere regarding Enma.
The reason Zoro has black lightning is because when he uses overwhelming amount of CoA it causes lightning

What made the fodders foam?

 

[Thaidakar]

What made the fodders foam?

Apparently it was Meme's haki that coincidentally turned green and was released radially from zoro

 

[Artem]

I mean how else’s did Zoro manage to scar Kaido if not AdvCoC?

Mom screamed Kaido dodges only the terrible acoa Zoro. Acoc was not in Ashura, only the awakening of coc