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It's you saying this, not those people.
Also, when your first thought when I denounce slavery in prison is to say how not an "out there" thought it is, instead of just expressing how F. up it is....
Well.. it's sayin a lot. But don't worry, you were not the only one. Nameless was far worse.
Also, when your first thought when I denounce slavery in prison is to say how not an "out there" thought it is, instead of just expressing how F. up it is....
Well.. it's sayin a lot. But don't worry, you were not the only one. Nameless was far worse.
Luffy being stronger than Kaido isn’t an out there take. Meaning it isn’t really controversial despite whatever my opinion is. Just like the average person probably wants prisoners to be punished by cleaning up roads or something.
“Slavery is bad” is a platitude, what else is there to add. Your reaction to the voting is what’s interesting, as if it’s anything out of the ordinary. Again, if a bunch of Christians voted for anti abortion laws I wouldn’t even find that news worthy
Bernie sanders, 2003
Those who think that I'm the one who seek division.. look again.
The problem is not the word "take" it's the words "not out there"
It's not. Since people are jumping to defend it and people here are legitimizing it.
What you say has a context mate.
You cannot try to defend yourself not to defend slavery when the first thing you do is try to legitimize the vote of people voting against its abolition.
Own your values.
@Logiko
It doesn't matter what you say you seek, but what you cause due to your actions. Your actions, like many other people, do nothing but turn people right wing. You're a fake/uneducated leftist. You say things without knowing what they mean, how to get there, nor the history behind it. Because of this so you fill in the gaps with your assumptions, using your own subjective morality as baseline. Doing such gives you very Liberal and outright authoritarian tendencies.
The constant dismissal of others as morally inferior is one of the big reasons Trump got elected in the first place. And you helped this.
It doesn't matter what you say you seek, but what you cause due to your actions. Your actions, like many other people, do nothing but turn people right wing. You're a fake/uneducated leftist. You say things without knowing what they mean, how to get there, nor the history behind it. Because of this so you fill in the gaps with your assumptions, using your own subjective morality as baseline. Doing such gives you very Liberal and outright authoritarian tendencies.
The constant dismissal of others as morally inferior is one of the big reasons Trump got elected in the first place. And you helped this.
Does the idea of workers owning the means of production promote living in lust, or is that happening just a coincidence, despite many leftists being religious, and many people struggling with lust regardless of political afiliation?,
I have anarcho-communist sympathies and I am free of lust,
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Hehe thank you but this is me =],
But yeah lust does not mean sexual desire, I just mean that I walk in freedom from feeling lusting towards others in the sense of for example, me being a straight guy, looking on a woman with lust, although I make mistakes sometimes, I'm just saying that I live in a freedom from lust where it is an occasional mistake, not a constantly present thing,
But yeah lust does not mean sexual desire, I just mean that I walk in freedom from feeling lusting towards others in the sense of for example, me being a straight guy, looking on a woman with lust, although I make mistakes sometimes, I'm just saying that I live in a freedom from lust where it is an occasional mistake, not a constantly present thing,
That's the commong confusionnist argumentation in which REACTANCE is the reason why people are pushed right wing or are right wing.
This is wrong and fallacious.
> Not only is it putting the responsibility of bigotry and reactionnary ideas on the victims of oppression who are legitimitly angry against those oppressions that they understand and fight everyday.
> But it is also wrong because what sociologically push people toward those ideas is not reactance, but the appetance for conservative and authoritative ideology and the system that feed those ideas..
In other words, I'm not the reason why people here are reactionnaries, the system is (Capitalism/Patriarchy/meritocracy etc.) and they are.
And to go farther, I can assure you that when I thought like those people and you, that the reasons why I was angry against SJW at the time were SJW themselves and their radicalism, because yes, I was once saying the EXACT same thing - "you are the reasons because we are angry and right wing" - i've come to understand that the REAL reasons for my conservatives leaning at the times was simply my complete refusal to open my mind to the ideas that those people had a point, were legitimate in their anger and radicalism and that I was conditionned by my education and my environment to be pushed to accept reactionnary ideas MORE THAN progressive one.
Once I started to understand that, I had absolutely no problem hearing the words of people who were angry at me and were treating me of Islamophobes or racist. It took a bit of time to understand all the aspect of leftism (around three years) but I finally came to listen completely and without any prejudice to those people who were angry at me. And trust me when I say that:
I would have NEVER listened to them otherwise. It's their anger and radicalism that triggered my curiosity.
We can't fight oppression with kind words and love.
That's cute.
I concede that my historical knowledge is not the best. This is true. The rest is on point, sorry for you, but understanding the history of a movement will not necessarily make you understand its core values.
This is a political work.
Sure. So much that the only one here who brings data from actual researchers and activist who work on the subject that I talk about ...
is me.
But keep dreaming mate. I'm waiting for you now to say that the science I bring you is not real science. Go on.
Lol. You really never met any REAL radical leftist in your life, right ?
No.
The reason why Trump was elected is because:
1. The system of USA is rigged to elect people for the interests of the 1%
2. The democrats gave up the working class
3. Liberals do NOT understand progressism
4. Because Trump is appealing to the storytelling that people wanna see and not Harris
5. Because Harris choose to support a genocide and Trump managed to make his base thinks that he would resolve all conflicts on earth.
6. Because both Harris and Trump are running for the interests of big corporations but Trump is making it look like a good thing.
7. Because people are angry and want change and Harris fought for a weak status Co
8. Because the far right mediatic grasp is immense on social medias and youtube.
9. Because the richest man on the planet rigged the election by pushing the biggest social media to support Trump on a systemic basis.
10. Because the left is completely absent mediatically and because people do not organize massively to fight the system in the US.
11. Because the system is craeted in such a way that it will always support the worst candidate.
12. Because the far right campagned on reactionnary ideas and the only things that democrates did is try to fight disinformation for years without understanding the identitary nature of the threat.
13. Because of people like you who confuse everyone into thinking that radicals are the problems and undermine anyone who strongly fight the real issues that are Capitalism/Ableism/Racism/Transphobia/Patriarchy etc.
And so many more.
The reasons why Trump won are the same why Macron in France lost. It's the SAME political logic. But contrary to your country, my country is FILLED with politician with the same rethoric and radicality as mine.
Hence, when we had to face a battle against the far right... we won. Macron took her victory from us, but we still won nonetheless.. DESPITE our radicalism.
People like me, who are radicals and just want a change have NOTHING to do with the radicalization to the right of those people, those people were already ready for those ideas.
People, in real life, are not repelled by radicalism or rethoric like mine. They are PUSHED toward those ideas by the system that completely destroy them and by people who use their suffering to direct them to vote against their own interest.
I know there is a very low % that you read so far but really. You need to open your eyes and target the right problems. There is an overwhelming % of reactionnary rethoric here, and what you focus on, is me, who is trying to fight it.
This simple data, should be able to create an alarm in any rationnal persons who want more progressism.
This is wrong and fallacious.
> Not only is it putting the responsibility of bigotry and reactionnary ideas on the victims of oppression who are legitimitly angry against those oppressions that they understand and fight everyday.
> But it is also wrong because what sociologically push people toward those ideas is not reactance, but the appetance for conservative and authoritative ideology and the system that feed those ideas..
In other words, I'm not the reason why people here are reactionnaries, the system is (Capitalism/Patriarchy/meritocracy etc.) and they are.
And to go farther, I can assure you that when I thought like those people and you, that the reasons why I was angry against SJW at the time were SJW themselves and their radicalism, because yes, I was once saying the EXACT same thing - "you are the reasons because we are angry and right wing" - i've come to understand that the REAL reasons for my conservatives leaning at the times was simply my complete refusal to open my mind to the ideas that those people had a point, were legitimate in their anger and radicalism and that I was conditionned by my education and my environment to be pushed to accept reactionnary ideas MORE THAN progressive one.
Once I started to understand that, I had absolutely no problem hearing the words of people who were angry at me and were treating me of Islamophobes or racist. It took a bit of time to understand all the aspect of leftism (around three years) but I finally came to listen completely and without any prejudice to those people who were angry at me. And trust me when I say that:
I would have NEVER listened to them otherwise. It's their anger and radicalism that triggered my curiosity.
We can't fight oppression with kind words and love.
That's cute.
I concede that my historical knowledge is not the best. This is true. The rest is on point, sorry for you, but understanding the history of a movement will not necessarily make you understand its core values.
This is a political work.
Sure. So much that the only one here who brings data from actual researchers and activist who work on the subject that I talk about ...
is me.
But keep dreaming mate. I'm waiting for you now to say that the science I bring you is not real science. Go on.
Lol. You really never met any REAL radical leftist in your life, right ?
No.
The reason why Trump was elected is because:
1. The system of USA is rigged to elect people for the interests of the 1%
2. The democrats gave up the working class
3. Liberals do NOT understand progressism
4. Because Trump is appealing to the storytelling that people wanna see and not Harris
5. Because Harris choose to support a genocide and Trump managed to make his base thinks that he would resolve all conflicts on earth.
6. Because both Harris and Trump are running for the interests of big corporations but Trump is making it look like a good thing.
7. Because people are angry and want change and Harris fought for a weak status Co
8. Because the far right mediatic grasp is immense on social medias and youtube.
9. Because the richest man on the planet rigged the election by pushing the biggest social media to support Trump on a systemic basis.
10. Because the left is completely absent mediatically and because people do not organize massively to fight the system in the US.
11. Because the system is craeted in such a way that it will always support the worst candidate.
12. Because the far right campagned on reactionnary ideas and the only things that democrates did is try to fight disinformation for years without understanding the identitary nature of the threat.
13. Because of people like you who confuse everyone into thinking that radicals are the problems and undermine anyone who strongly fight the real issues that are Capitalism/Ableism/Racism/Transphobia/Patriarchy etc.
And so many more.
The reasons why Trump won are the same why Macron in France lost. It's the SAME political logic. But contrary to your country, my country is FILLED with politician with the same rethoric and radicality as mine.
Hence, when we had to face a battle against the far right... we won. Macron took her victory from us, but we still won nonetheless.. DESPITE our radicalism.
People like me, who are radicals and just want a change have NOTHING to do with the radicalization to the right of those people, those people were already ready for those ideas.
People, in real life, are not repelled by radicalism or rethoric like mine. They are PUSHED toward those ideas by the system that completely destroy them and by people who use their suffering to direct them to vote against their own interest.
I know there is a very low % that you read so far but really. You need to open your eyes and target the right problems. There is an overwhelming % of reactionnary rethoric here, and what you focus on, is me, who is trying to fight it.
This simple data, should be able to create an alarm in any rationnal persons who want more progressism.