Controversial Trump vs Harris who do you predict wins?

[TheAncientCenturion]

according to his logic you're worse than trash if you defend Musk or Trump

This is reserved only for those that abandon their comrades

 

[Luffy is the mc]

according to his logic you're worse than trash if you defend Musk or Trump

I've seen these videos of people getting crazy because of Trump being reelected (mostly for their social medias tbf, they're crazy but they still gotta get them likes) and I think they look stupid as fuck but I still wouldn’t get their children involved into my arguments with them.

 

[AL sama]

This is reserved only for those that abandon their comrades

"you're a scumbag if you break the rules but you're worse than a scumbag if abandon your comrades for the rules"

Kakashi Hatake

 

[Logiko]

I still don't see the correlation between these articles (that are at conditional btw) and her daughter.

I never attacked her. Go check what I said.

The correlation is clear.

People who have relatives that will have their lives threatenned by the arrival of power of Trump to power, and endorsing him or Musk who literally denied the existence of his own daughter because of her gender, are simply blind to the threat they poses and became by defaut the opposite if what I would call an ally.

The correlation is clear as crystal for those who understand the danger that is coming.. not only in the US, but around the entire world.

Trump is but the first step of something even more dramatic. We MUST be prepared. I'm not being dramatic here. I have the datas, I have the knowledge, I have the documents to tell you.

The left (not democrates, not liberals, the LEFT) are those people at the moment, I'm those people and the comet is Eternal Fascism.

It's COMING. And America may already be lost.

I'm telling you to be scared and stop looking at politics as a friendly debate.

Some people were scared about the retirement law in France but yet the majority still voted for Macron. That's how democracy works.

People voted for Macron because the left stood strong. Because we still have people against far right idea and because France is currently STILL midly progressive despite the racist politics and the far right personnalities.

You're always talking about women's rights and about respecting them but I see it's only the case when they agree with you.

You got that wrong. Respect for women does not mean that we must stay silent or be respectfull (in the limits possible) of those who defend oppressors. We must respect women, meaning, their body, their voice, but this is not an free pass for them to say everything.

That's not what feminism is. And trust me, I was patient, I even prevent myself from going too far a lot of time when I saw some very problematic rethoric.

And Zemmi never agreed with me.

I think I have been VERY patient with many of you guys. If I replied to you all like I'm being replied to daily, trust me that it would be an instant ban from me.

Who did?

A lot of people. And it's not stopping. Do you see me doing the same ? No.

So relax. Accept that I went low this time, legitimately, understand my anger. Do not try to give me moral lessons about women rights when everyone here is defending a rapist or legitimizing people who defend them. And we should be able to go on.

asking someone if they are dizzy and attacking someone on their mental health aren't the same thing

When it's repeated and I implied that it made me feel uncofortable, yes it is. You know very well what you did.

But it's ok. I'm not mad. People here have done far worse and I know that you were just trolling.

Understand that the violence I'm receiving here daily, and what I give are completely on a different level. And EVEN when I make a low blow, I still do everything to make it as harmfull as possible.

I told you guyz. I know EXACTLY what can trigger you. And it seems that putting you all (not only Zemmi) in front of the reality of the consequences of your action and the defense of very problematic people, is exactly what makes you react.

It means that you still have a heart and it's not late for you all here to wake up. Because what is coming is not funny.

according to his logic you're worse than trash if you defend Musk or Trump

No. Just a danger for people in difficulty around you.

Especially online, he'd said something like that to the wrong person irl and he'd get slapped by either the mother or the father and nobody would bat an eye.

How do you think I would react if someone bragged about voting for a fascist in front of me knowing that I would be put in danger by that ?

I don't think you realize the political dynamics here.

 

[Zemmi]

I just want to put it out there. Not once, by purpose, accident, by vote or any other means, have I ever put my daughter in danger (or my son).

 

[AL sama]

I've seen these videos of people getting crazy because of Trump being reelected (mostly for their social medias tbf, they're crazy but they still gotta get them likes) and I think they look stupid as fuck but I still wouldn’t get their children involved into my arguments with them.

I make videos so I understand people doing things for clout but going personal is too much

 

[Ravagerblade]

I personally don't talk about his mental health since he said he didn't want people to talk about it. I respect that.
But still, why would he bring someone's daughter into his arguments? Especially when he tries to give himself the high moral ground.

Rules for thee but not for me.

 

[AL sama]

When it's repeated and I implied that it made me feel uncofortable, yes it is. You know very well what you did.

read back cause you're mixing up mental health with physical health

 

[Luffy is the mc]

How do you think I would react if someone bragged about voting for a fascist in front of me knowing that I would be put in danger by that ?

You would do nothing mate. That's how you would react.

So relax. Accept that I went low this time, legitimately, understand my anger. Do not try to give me moral lessons about women rights when everyone here is defending a rapist or legitimizing people who defend them. And we should be able to go on.

No I won't accept that you went low because other people attacked you. That's the same rhetoric you use to defend immigrants isn't it? Just because some immigrants commits crimes doesn't mean all of them do, therefore I won't attack all of them.

I never attacked her. Go check what I said.

I read what you said. You talked about her daughter when you shouldn't have. Let her daughter out of this. And she was still very polite to you after you pull that POS on her.
Stop thinking you're always right and better than others.

And Zemmi never agreed with me.

So what? Does everybody need to agree with you to be respected or be treated as human being?

 

[Uncle Van]

I'm telling you to be scared and stop looking at politics as a friendly debate.

Yes fear mongering. Let's tell people to be scared. Let's make them feel powerless and hopeless. How progressive and empowering.

I'd rather stay strong and learn how to stave off the coming storm.

But it's ok. I'm not mad. People here have done far worse and I know that you were just trolling.

"Who the fuck do you think you are talking to?"

Sure.

I told you guyz. I know EXACTLY what can trigger you.

-Laughing off suicides
-going after someone's kids
-disrespecting the dead and injured by calling them oppressors

Yes what a mastermind. Running your car into someone's garage to prove how angry they are when they flip out....genius.

 

[Logiko]

I just want to put it out there. Not once, by purpose, accident, by vote or any other means, have I ever put my daughter in danger (or my son).

FFS

read back cause you're mixing up mental health with physical health

The two are one thing.

But ok. I don't even want to discuss anymore about that, it's past, and I didn't mind anyway. Like I said, people have done far worse.

You would do nothing mate. That's how your would react.

I'm glad you think that. But sadly, I'm a man. And my education was not perfect on the control of my emotions. And frankly.. I would lie if I told you that I would regret it.

I read what you said. You talked about her daughter when you shouldn't have. Let her daughter out of this. And she was still very polite to you after you pull that POS on her.
Stop thinking you're always right and better than others.

Again, you did not. Or you didn't understand the point. And what I said is perfectly legitimate in front of the horror that are happening because of this defense and the horrors that will happen in the future.

You not understanding that fact do not negate what I said. Being respectfull is not a freepass to being free from low critics.

No I won't accept that you went low because other people attacked you.

I went low NOT because of others here, but specifically because HER defense of two crypto fascists.

And specically because I had hope, sadly, that she was different from Trump defender here. Which is... when I think about it, kinda of sexist bias..

Now. I will stop speaking about Zemmi, because while I did went low. I don't want to attack her more than necessary. She is still much better and more respectfull than most of people here and this would be an unecessary dogpiling.

So what? Does everybody need to agree with you to be respected or be treated as human being?

Just not defend crypto fascist and enable those who defend them would be a start.

If you don't understand that simple principle, well, that's sad.

I don't think you understand what "a life or death situation" means.

Yes fear mongering.

In this case yes. You should be afraid.

This is a legitimate warning.

Let's make them feel powerless and hopeless. How progressive and empowering.

?????

Since when fear prevents you from being powerfull and hopefull ?

We were scared like HELL in july about the rise of the far right. And yet, the entire left managed to use that fear to move and unite all the leftist party into a single coalition to beat... (kinda) the far right.

i'm not telling you to be scared to make you hopeless.

I'm telling you to wake up, watch the threat in the eyes and start moving !

You will never see the threat if you are not afraid of it. Fear is not always negative.

"Who the fuck do you think you are talking to?"

Sure.

Lmao.. You think this is me being mad ?

-Laughing off suicides

Never > It's a lie. It's crazy that you say this to someone who actually went through this as if you had any legitimacy to give me moral lessons about it.

-going after someone's kids

Never > Also a lie.

-disrespecting the dead and injured by calling them oppressors

Ok this one I don't even understand where you get this from.

Running your car into someone's garage to prove how angry they are when they flip out....genius.

What are cars having anything to do with the issue here ?

 

[AL sama]

bruh talk about doubling and tripling down

 

[Ravagerblade]

The yapping dog keeps yapping.
*yawn* Find another hobby bro...

 

[dirtyLarry]

FFS
I'm glad you think that. But sadly, I'm a man. And my education was not perfect on the control of my emotions. And frankly.. I would lie if I told you that I would regret it.

FFS, any "man" that spends this much time on a fictional pirate series forum and argues about any topic the way you do (jumping from full troll to emotional drama-queen) wouldn't do jackshit in the streets.

Everyone here knows that.

At best you would get knocked out quickly and the other guy just lets you lay there on the ground ...

 

[AL sama]

lmfao the last line of logiko's post is really something else

 

[Luffy is the mc]

I'm glad you think that. But sadly, I'm a man. And my education was not perfect on the control of my emotions. And frankly.. I would lie if I told you that I would regret it.

I don't think that, I know that.

Never > Also a lie

Not a lie, you did, we all saw it.
Anyway it's pointless to talk to you. I think someone here once said talking to you is like talking to a wall, I think it's worse than that tbh.
So have a good one mate, I'm out.

 

[Ravagerblade]

When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.
A quote I saw, seems very apt.

 

[Logiko]

FFS, any "man" that spends this much time on a fictional pirate series forum and argues about any topic the way you do (jumping from full troll to emotional drama-queen) wouldn't do jackshit in the streets.

Drama King mate. *

You have a lot of preconception. You would be surprised.

At best you would get knocked out quickly and the other guy just lets you lay there on the ground ...

Never said that I would be a winner


I'm simply telling you that multiple decades of frustration could be highly constructively spent on the nose of one Nazi.

lmfao the last line of logiko's post is really something else

A little humor to lighen up the mood doesn't hurt.

I don't think that, I know that.

Thanks, that's kind :)

Not a lie, you did, we all saw it.

Nah. What you see, is me pointing the contradictions of someone. Not me going after a kid. You have a weird conception of reality...

So have a good one mate, I'm out.

Good night

 

[NAMELESS]

I just want to put it out there. Not once, by purpose, accident, by vote or any other means, have I ever put my daughter in danger (or my son).

Some people are not worth replying to. This guy treats everyone like this.

 

[Logiko]

Some people are not worth replying to. This guy treats everyone like this.

Not everyone.